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Discovering Strength Through Caregiving with Lisa McCarty
May 5, 2026
34m 34s
Building a Legacy of Love with Christy Byrne Yates
Apr 16, 2026
32m 44s
Understanding Palliative Care with Dr. Matthew Tyler
Apr 2, 2026
36m 49s
Caregiving Strategies and Avoiding Financial Scams with Chuck Whitlock
Mar 26, 2026
29m 56s
Building Sustainable Peace with Shalom Center's Father Patrick Devine
Mar 16, 2026
22m 56s
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| 5/5/26 | ![]() Discovering Strength Through Caregiving with Lisa McCarty | Host Candace Dellacona welcomes acclaimed writer Lisa McCarty for a powerful conversation on caregiving, resilience, and the courage to tell deeply personal stories. McCarty reflects on her essays that resonated with thousands—from losing her father just as she welcomed her second child to stepping into the role of caregiver for her mother at just 13—and how those experiences shaped her voice and perspective. Now developing a reported nonfiction book, she shares hard-earned insights on identity, boundaries, and advocacy, offering thoughtful guidance for young caregivers navigating similar paths. 00:00 Discovering Strength Through Caregiving with Lisa McCarty 00:07 Welcome and Guest Intro 01:31 Why Write Personal Stories 02:08 Sharing the Caregiving Essay 05:26 Story Timing 08:53 How Young Caregiving Shaped Lisa 13:17 Realizing She Was a Caregiver 16:41 Systemic Failures and Isolation 24:03 Advice for Young Caregivers 27:09 Writing the Book and Self Care 32:10 Privacy and Telling the Truth 35:08 Defining Thriving, Not Surviving 38:27 Closing Remarks For a collection of Lisa’s essays and articles, visit https://linktr.ee/lbmccarty Follow Lisa McCarty on social media: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-mccarty-8905513/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/lbmccarty717/ (00:00) - v2 Discovering Strength Through Caregiving with Lisa McCarty (00:07) - Welcome and Guest Intro (01:31) - Why Write Personal Stories (02:08) - Sharing the Caregiving Essay (05:26) - Story Timing (08:53) - How Young Caregiving Shaped Lisa (13:17) - Realizing She Was a Caregiver (15:31) - Systemic Failures and Isolation (22:54) - Advice for Young Caregivers (26:00) - Writing the Book and Self Care (30:09) - Defining Thriving, Not Surviving (33:27) - Closing Remarks | 34m 34s | ||||||
| 4/16/26 | ![]() Building a Legacy of Love with Christy Byrne Yates✨ | caregivingsandwich generation+4 | Christy Byrne Yates | Building a Legacy of Love: Thriving in the Sandwich Generation | — | caregivingsandwich generation+5 | — | 32m 44s | |
| 4/2/26 | ![]() Understanding Palliative Care with Dr. Matthew Tyler✨ | palliative carehospice+4 | Dr. Matthew Tyler | How to Train Your Doctor | — | palliative carehospice+4 | — | 36m 49s | |
| 3/26/26 | ![]() Caregiving Strategies and Avoiding Financial Scams with Chuck Whitlock✨ | caregivingadvocacy+4 | Chuck Whitlock | LifeSource, A Caregiver’s Guide for Managing Mental Wellness for the Older Adult | — | caregivingfinancial scams+5 | — | 29m 56s | |
| 3/16/26 | ![]() Building Sustainable Peace with Shalom Center's Father Patrick Devine✨ | peacebuildingconflict resolution+5 | Father Patrick Devine | Shalom Center for Conflict Resolution and Reconciliation | KenyaUSA+2 | peaceconflict resolution+5 | — | 22m 56s | |
| 3/11/26 | ![]() The Importance of Supportive Care with Sheri Biller & Anneliese Barron✨ | supportive carecaregivers+3 | Sheri BillerAnneliese Barron | The Sheri and Les Biller FoundationOne Family Foundation+2 | — | supportive carecaregivers+3 | — | 25m 15s | |
| 2/16/26 | ![]() Mastering Financial Caregiving Techniques with Beth Pinsker✨ | financial caregivingaging parents+3 | Beth Pinsker | MarketWatchMy Mother’s Money | — | financial caregivingaging parents+3 | — | 35m 20s | |
| 2/2/26 | ![]() Autism. Science. Hope.✨ | autismhealthcare+4 | Dr. Theresa Lyons | Navigating AWEtismYale | — | autismhealthcare team+4 | — | 31m 00s | |
| 1/20/26 | ![]() The Challenges of Navigating the Sandwich Generation with Vanessa Grigoriadis✨ | caregivingsandwich generation+4 | Vanessa Grigoriadis | Campside MediaSo Your Parents Are Old | — | caregivingsandwich generation+4 | — | 32m 17s | |
| 1/2/26 | ![]() Dean Blandino on Family, Career, and the Sandwich Generation✨ | family dynamicscareer pivots+4 | Dean Blandino | Fox SportsNFL+1 | — | Dean Blandinosandwich generation+4 | — | 30m 30s | |
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| 12/15/25 | ![]() Cybersecurity Insights for the Sandwich Generation with Dan Krutoy✨ | cybersecurityscams+3 | Dan Krutoy | Pro4iaLinkedIn | — | cybersecurityseniors+5 | — | 27m 13s | |
| 12/1/25 | ![]() Preserving Culture and Building Legacy with Genice Lee | In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona welcomes Genice Lee from Harvest Estate and Appraisals. They discuss the importance of legacy, the role of passion assets in preserving family history, and how Genice’s personal experiences have shaped her professional journey. Genice shares valuable insights on appraising sentimental items, the significance of documentation and inventories, and the overlooked value of family paperwork. They also delve into the unique challenges faced by African American families in preserving their cultural artifacts. Tune in to learn practical tips for estate planning and the importance of storytelling in family legacies.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:41 Genice Lee's Background and Expertise01:55 The Importance of Legacy and Stories02:58 Genice's Personal Journey into Appraising05:43 Challenges in Estate Management09:47 Sentimental vs. Monetary Value17:05 Preserving African American Artifacts29:30 The Role of Technology in Legacy Preservation31:46 Conclusion and Contact InformationTo learn more about Harvest Estate & Appraisal Services, visit their website at https://www.harvestestateandappraisals.com/To learn more about Genice Lee, visit her profile on the International Society of Appraisers website at https://www.isa-appraisers.org/find-an-appraiser/profile/12796/genice-r-leeFollow Genice on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/genice-lee-asa-isa-am-a6b22929/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/harvest4you_/ | 33m 56s | ||||||
| 11/17/25 | ![]() Embracing Family Through Adoption with Michele Katz | In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona celebrates National Adoption Month by welcoming intellectual property attorney Michele Katz to discuss her journey with adoption and the creation of the Plus One Adoption Foundation. Michele shares her personal experiences, the challenges of adopting both infants and older children, and how her foundation aims to provide reliable resources and support to families looking to adopt. The discussion highlights the emotional and logistical aspects of adoption, the support and resources provided by the foundation to adoptive families, and the importance of changing the narrative around adoption. Michele also touches on key aspects like credible resources, post-placement support, and building a community for adoptive families. As an extra, Michele talks about her private wine label, Wine for Good®, which supports the foundation. Tune in to learn more about transforming adoption experiences and supporting adoptive families.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:37 Michele's Adoption Journey Begins04:17 Adopting an Older Child08:17 Founding Plus One Adoption Foundation12:51 Navigating the Adoption Process19:12 Post-Placement Support and Resources25:35 Community and Final ThoughtsTo learn more about Plus One Adoption Foundation, visit their website at https://plusoneadoption.org/Follow Plus One Adoption Foundation on social media:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/plus-one-adoption-foundation-inc/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/plusoneadoption/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/plusoneadoptionEmail Plus One Adoption Foundation: admin@plusoneadoption.org | 30m 46s | ||||||
| 11/3/25 | ![]() Building Legacy Through Conversation with Jason Brown | In this episode of the Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona welcomes Jason Brown, a legacy strategist and entrepreneur. Jason shares his compelling life story from being a young entrepreneur in California to dealing with the tragic loss of his wife. He emphasizes the importance of financial literacy and having essential conversations about legacy and end-of-life planning. Jason introduces his innovative 'Legacy Card Deck,' designed to facilitate meaningful discussions on topics such as medical decisions, financial planning, love, and personal legacy. Jason's profound personal experiences and insights make this episode a valuable resource for anyone navigating the challenges of the sandwich generation while searching for the tools and insights needed to prepare for the future and create a lasting impact.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:12 Jason Brown's Early Life and Entrepreneurial Journey04:41 Meeting His Wife and Starting a Family07:24 A Life-Changing Diagnosis18:06 Navigating Grief and Finding Purpose23:05 Creating the Legacy Card Deck34:20 Advice on Medical Power of Attorney41:24 Expanding the Legacy Conversation46:45 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsTo learn more about The Legacy Card Deck, visit https://thelegacycarddeck.com/Subscribe to the When What If Happens podcast at https://www.youtube.com/@whenwhatifhappensFollow Jason and The Legacy Card Deck on social media:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasondowntownbrown/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/legacycarddeck/ | 49m 50s | ||||||
| 10/15/25 | ![]() Exploring Long-Term Home Care Solutions with Albert Eshoo & Joyce Barocas | In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona welcomes Albert Eshoo and Joyce Barocas, owners of Right at Home Home Care in New York City. They discuss their paths into the home care industry and delve into the new Medicare GUIDE Program, designed to assist families and caregivers of those with Alzheimer's and dementia. The discussion covers the limitations of traditional Medicare coverage, the importance of activities of daily living (ADLs), and the significant benefits of the GUIDE program, including free access to care navigators and respite care. The episode provides listeners with comprehensive insights on how to effectively utilize home care services and the GUIDE program to maintain their loved ones' independence and improve the quality of life for caregivers.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:29 Getting into Home Care: Personal Stories03:22 Understanding the Home Care Crisis04:44 Medicare and Home Care: The Basics08:22 Introducing the GUIDE Program12:46 Steps to Access the GUIDE Program15:24 Comprehensive Services of the GUIDE Program22:06 Training and Safety in Home Care27:41 When to Call a Professional36:06 Conclusion and Contact InformationTo learn more about Right at Home, visit their website at https://www.rightathome.net/lower-manhattanFor RightConversation resources, visit https://www.rightathome.net/lower-manhattan/resources/guides/right-conversationsFollow Right at Home on social media:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/RightatHomeCareFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/RightAtHomeLowerManhattanTwitter: https://x.com/rightathomeNY Connect with Albert and Joyce on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/alberteshoo/https://www.linkedin.com/in/joycebarocas/ | 37m 18s | ||||||
| 10/1/25 | ![]() Navigating Women's Health with Rachel Welch | In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona welcomes Rachel Welch, a women’s pre and postnatal fitness pioneer and founder of Revolution Motherhood, and her new program created to help pre-, menopausal, and post-menopausal women. Rachel discusses the crucial role self-care plays in women's health, the motivation behind creating Revolution Motherhood, and the importance of valuing and understanding women's bodies through different life stages. She also offers advice on finding trusted healthcare providers and cutting through the noise of abundant but inconsistent health information, particularly in the menopause space. The conversation underscores the necessity of community and support for women, especially those in the sandwich generation.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome01:11 Rachel's Journey and Revolution Motherhood06:18 The Importance of Self-Care14:09 Navigating the Healthcare System25:21 Building a Supportive Community36:27 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsTo learn more about Revolution Motherhood, visit their website at https://www.revolutionmotherhood.com/Connect with Revolution Motherhood on social media:Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/revolution-motherhood/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/revolutionmotherhood/#YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RevolutionMotherhoodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/revolutionmotherhood | 38m 14s | ||||||
| 9/15/25 | ![]() The Journey to Better Healthcare with Ben Kruger | In this episode of 'The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide,' host Candace Dellacona welcomes Ben Kruger, a thought leader in modern healthcare. Ben shares his journey from a career in Hollywood to co-founding Sollis Health, a company providing concierge urgent and emergent care, and his latest venture, Appian, which aims to holistically support aging adults and their families.Ben discusses the inspiration behind his ventures, the complexities of the US healthcare system, and the importance of proactive planning in aging well. The conversation emphasizes the significance of early engagement, active listening, and creating a supportive infrastructure for aging loved ones, touching on the emotional and logistical challenges faced by the sandwich generation.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:54 Ben Kruger's Journey from Hollywood to Healthcare10:46 The Birth of Sollis Health17:17 The Concept and Growth of Concierge Care20:48 Introducing Appian25:23 The Importance of Planning for Aging30:28 Engaging in Conversations About Aging44:17 Conclusion and Final Thoughts Connect with Ben on social media: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-kruger-35a745b/ | 47m 09s | ||||||
| 9/2/25 | ![]() College Financial Planning with Jack Wang | In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona welcomes Jack Wang, a wealth advisor at Innovative Advisory Group and host of 'The Smart College Buyer' podcast. They discuss Jack's journey from commercial banking to wealth advising with a focus on college financial aid planning. Jack provides in-depth strategies on how families can maximize financial aid, the importance of early planning, and the nuances of different aid sources. They also explore the role of grandparents and other family members in contributing to college costs, and the implications of different types of contributions. Jack offers practical advice for parents to ensure they are financially prepared for their child's college education without compromising their own financial stability. Tune in to gain valuable insights and tips for securing financial aid and making informed decisions about paying for college.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:30 Jack Wang's Background and Career Journey02:00 Transition to College Financial Aid Planning05:18 Early College Financial Planning13:55 Understanding Financial Aid and Scholarships28:39 Navigating Student Loans and Family Finances33:30 Grandparents' Role in College Funding39:47 Conclusion and Podcast Promotion To subscribe to the Smart College Buyer, visit https://smartcollegebuyer.podbean.com/Follow Jack on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thejackwang/ | 41m 46s | ||||||
| 8/15/25 | ![]() Piloting Compassion in Caregiving with Jonathan Knaul | In this episode of 'The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide,' host Candace Dellacona welcomes Dr. Jonathan Knaul, a distinguished Royal Canadian Air Force pilot and commander, NATO mission leader, instructor at the National Test Pilot School, and author of 'Final Approach, a Test Pilot’s Story of Caring for Loved Ones.' Jonathan shares his impressive background, from leading high-stakes military missions to training elite military pilots, through his journey as a caregiver for his parents and the heartfelt motivation behind writing his book. He discusses the skills he learned as a decorated military pilot and commander in the RCAF, how he used those skills when dealing with the complexities of caregiving, and the emotional and practical challenges of advocating for loved ones with dementia. Jonathan provides valuable advice on how to maintain the dignity of your aging loved ones and how to manage caregiver burnout. Jonathan and Candace also discuss the importance of community and self-care all while navigating this demanding role.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:29 Jonathan Knaul's Background and Career02:21 Writing the Book: A Love Letter to Parents04:18 Stories of Jonathan's Parents07:28 Challenges and Rewards of Caregiving13:45 Decision Making and Family Dynamics26:38 Caregiver Burnout and Final Thoughts28:30 Conclusion and Community ResourcesTo purchase Jonathan’s book and subscribe to his newsletter, visit https://finalapproachbook.com/. | 30m 34s | ||||||
| 7/15/25 | ![]() Empowerment Through Hero Generation with Nicole àBeckett and Dr. Shruti Roy | In this episode of the Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona speaks with Nicole àBeckett and Dr. Shruti Roy, co-founders of the innovative technology platform Hero Generation. Nicole and Shruti share their personal caregiving experiences that inspired them to create Hero Generation, a comprehensive web-based tool designed to support family caregivers. This first of its kind technology provides Sandwich Generation members medical and legal resources, tools to organize and manage caregiving responsibilities, and a community to help caregivers manage the emotional and logistical challenges they face. The discussion highlights the important role that technology can play in caregiving and how technology can support, organize, and manage these responsibilities. Candace commends the founders for their mission-driven approach and the value Hero Generation brings to caregivers.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:51 Nicole's Caregiving Journey 04:15 Shruti's Caregiving Experience 06:46 The Hero Generation Platform 07:40 Platform Features and Benefits 11:23 Community and Support for Caregivers 25:32 Accessing Hero Generation 28:19 Closing Remarks and GratitudeFor more information about Hero Generation, visit https://www.herogen.co/Follow Hero Generation on social media:https://www.linkedin.com/company/herogeneration/https://www.instagram.com/hero__generation/https://www.facebook.com/weareHeroGeneration | 29m 26s | ||||||
| 6/16/25 | ![]() Navigating Solo Aging with Dr. Gerda Maissel | Join host Candace Dellacona in this insightful episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, featuring Dr. Gerda Maissel, founder of My MD Advisor. Candace and Dr. Maissel discuss “solo agers” and the unique challenges they face. Learn about critical strategies for single people as they age, including building community, ensuring proper medical care, and legal planning to navigate aging independently or with limited family support. This episode provides valuable insights for both solo agers and their loved ones!00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:30 Dr. Gerda Maissel's Background and My MD Advisor01:07 Personal Story: The Catalyst for My MD Advisor02:29 Challenges in the Healthcare System05:30 The Concept of Solo Aging09:14 Fears and Realities of Solo Agers22:56 Building Community and Support Networks25:52 Legal and Medical Preparations for Solo Agers29:38 When to Seek Professional Help31:45 Conclusion and Contact InformationFor more information about My MD Advisor, visit: https://www.mymdadvisor.com/Follow My MD Advisor on social media:https://www.linkedin.com/company/my-md-advisor/https://www.facebook.com/MyMDAdvisor/ | 32m 45s | ||||||
| 5/15/25 | ![]() CareYaya: A Revolutionary Approach to Elder Care | In this episode of the Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona is joined by Neal Shah and Sydney Rosbury from CareYaya, an innovative platform transforming the elder care industry.Neal shares his journey from Wall Street to full-time caregiver to founder of CareYaya. The CareYaya on-line platform connects university students with seniors in need of companion-level care, offering a cost-effective and reliable alternative to traditional home care. Sydney, a pre-med senior at the University of Michigan, discusses the intergenerational experiences and the invaluable skills she gained as a caregiver with CareYaya. Additionally, Neal introduces Counterforce Health, a new project utilizing AI to assist families in appealing denied health insurance claims, aiming to alleviate caregiver stress. The episode highlights the importance of personalized, affordable care and the growing need for innovative solutions in the aging population.00:00 Introduction to the Sandwich Generation Survival Guide 01:19 Meet Neal Shah: From Finance to Caregiving 03:58 The Birth of CareYaya 05:24 Sydney Rosbury's Journey with CareYaya 07:10 What is CareYaya? 08:39 Innovations and Impact of CareYaya 12:49 Challenges in the Care Industry 19:30 CareYaya's Expansion and Future Plans 29:19 Exciting New Projects: Counterforce Health 32:47 Conclusion and Final Thoughts | 33m 53s | ||||||
| 4/15/25 | ![]() Understanding Senior Living Options with Beth Weeks | In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona interviews Beth Weeks, a registered nurse and co-founder of Senior Living Consultants of New York.Beth discusses the complexities of senior housing, including options such as aging in place, independent living, and assisted living facilities. She shares her personal journey that led her to specialize in senior care, as well as the mission of her consultancy to bring clarity, transparency, and advocacy to families navigating these decisions. The conversation covers the importance of safety, financial planning, and the evolving landscape of senior housing that is becoming more inclusive of diverse communities and specialized needs.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 01:02 The Growing Senior Population 01:43 Beth's Background and Motivation 03:21 Challenges in Senior Housing 05:10 Different Senior Housing Options 05:55 Safety Concerns for Aging in Place 08:36 Independent Living vs. Assisted Living 14:30 When to Consider Skilled Nursing 18:03 Cost Considerations and Financial Planning 27:00 The Future of Senior Living Communities 29:41 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsFor more information on Senior Living Consultants of New York, visit: https://www.slcofny.com/ | 30m 09s | ||||||
| 3/28/25 | ![]() Financial Planning Tips for the Sandwich Generation with Sherry Finkel Murphy | In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona is joined by financial planner and author Sherry Finkel Murphy. They discuss the unique challenges of the 'Triple Decker Sandwich Generation,' a term coined to describe the multitasking demands of caring for aging parents, children, and grandchildren simultaneously. Sherry shares her experiences and strategies for managing these responsibilities, emphasizing the importance of stopping self-reproach, advocating for oneself and planning wisely.Highlights include the significance of 'radical flexibility,' the concept of a 'Forget You Fund' for financial independence, and ways to find joy and self-care amidst multigenerational obligations. Sherry also delves into the historical context of increasing life expectancy and its impact on family dynamics, offering practical advice for living a fulfilling life even when caught between generations.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:24 Sherry's Background and Skillset01:17 The Concept of Madrina Molly™02:37 Challenges of the ‘Triple Decker Sandwich Generation’04:22 Financial Planning for Women09:29 Housing and Flexibility16:23 Living in the Now and Financial Tips24:25 The ‘Forget You Fund’ and Career Pivots31:08 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsFor more information, visit:https://www.madrinamolly.com/Follow Madrina Molly on social media:https://www.facebook.com/MadrinaMollyhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/madrina-molly/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVmG0qLrw9eZZoEKYD2WyQA | 32m 04s | ||||||
| 3/14/25 | ![]() The Entrepreneur's Journey with Kass and Mike Lazerow | In this episode of The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide, host Candace Dellacona welcomes entrepreneurial power couple Kass and Mike Lazerow. They discuss their book Shoveling $h!t: A Love Story, which details how to successfully build your business, and shares the harsh realities and joys of entrepreneurship.During the episode, Kass and Mike delve into their origin story, the importance of picking the right partner in business as in life, and how they support the entrepreneurial community through investments and mentorship. They reveal their four-part approach—vision, communication, mindset, and workload—and the creation of their Go-Gauge™ to help evaluate business ideas. Kass and Mike also discuss work-life balance, offering personal anecdotes about juggling family life with running a business, the significance of modeling good behavior for their children, and the importance of consistency in both personal and professional spheres. The episode wraps up with a note on their continued commitment to giving back through initiatives like Cycle for Survival.00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome00:29 Kass and Mike's Origin Story02:34 Entrepreneurial Journey and Book Inspiration04:16 Writing the Book Together06:22 The Importance of Picking the Right Partner15:22 The Go-Gauge™ and Evaluating Business Ideas22:22 Balancing Family and Entrepreneurship29:28 Modeling Success for Kids and Founders34:38 Conclusion and Book Pre-order InformationTo preorder Shoveling $h!t: A Love Story, visit:shovelingshit.comFor more information on Kass and Mike, visit:kassandmike.comcycleforsurvival.orgFollow Kass and Mike on social media:https://www.facebook.com/kassandmikehttps://www.instagram.com/kassandmikehttps://www.linkedin.com/company/kassandmike/https://www.tiktok.com/@kassandmikehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgLzz0yep6lUaE5i62zMXTw | 35m 26s | ||||||
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