The Urban Farm Podcast with Greg Peterson

How to Revolutionize Local FoodIn this Episode Dana Choquette, the Executive Director of the Western North Carolina Food Coalition, shares how a first-generation regenerative livestock farmer became a regional leader in local food system infrastructure. From backyard sheep during COVID to coordinating 12 food hubs and 9 food councils, Dana explains how small farms can transform local economies, reduce food insecurity, and strengthen community resilience. This episode explores food hubs, policy innovation, hunger relief, and why collaboration—not competition—is the future of regional food systems.Our Guest: Dana Choquette is the executive director of a 19 county community coalition that works to strengthen the local food system in western North Carolina. She mobilizes projects to help people in all corners of the food system from those experiencing hunger to those building viable small farms. All while building local food distribution infrastructure. She's a first generation regenerative livestock farmer, and particularly loves working with sheep and cattle.Key Topics & EntitiesWestern North Carolina Food Coalition (WNC Food Coalition)Dana Choquette’s transition from urban life to regenerative livestock farmingWestern North Carolina’s 19-county food systemFood hubs as aggregation and distribution infrastructureWNC Food Hub Collaborative (12 independent hubs collaborating regionally)Grow Where You Live Policy (community gardens in high-density housing)Food councils (9 hyper-local councils across WNC)Community-based food pantries and 24/7 open-access pantriesManna FoodBank partnershipWarehouse aggregation and distribution modelInstitutional food purchasing vs. national distributorsCarbon footprint and local food sourcingFarmer viability and consistent market outletsChris Smith’s book The Whole OkraKey Questions AnsweredHow did Dana transition from urban living to farming and food systems leadership?Dana had no farming experience until nearly age 30. After relocating from Colorado to Western North Carolina during COVID, she and her husband started with backyard sheep. What began as a trial experiment quickly evolved into expanded livestock, leased land, and a deep commitment to producing food for their community. That hands-on experience led her into food systems work and ultimately to leading the WNC Food Coalition.What is a food coalition and how does it function regionally?A food coalition coordinates local stakeholders across the food system—from hunger relief to farmer support to policy advocacy. In Western North Carolina, the coalition serves 19 counties through 9 hyper-local food councils, each responding to the specific needs of its community.What is a food hub and why is it important?Food hubs are brick-and-mortar aggregation and distribution centers that purchase food from local farmers and redistribute it to consumers, institutions, CSAs, retail outlets, and food pantries. They create consistent market outlets for farmers, reduce distribution gaps, and help keep food dollars circulating locally.How do food hubs differ from national distributors?National distributors aggregate global food at scale, often prioritizing cost efficiency. Food hubs prioritize local sourcing, fair farmer compensation, shorter supply chains, and lower carbon footprints. They also strengthen local economies and improve freshness and nutritional value.How is the WNC region addressing hunger right now?The coalition partners with Manna FoodBank and operates 24/7 open-access community pantries, direct home delivery, and snack bag programs for unhoused individuals. Their approach blends immediate relief with long-term systems change.What is the Grow Where You Live Policy?A proposed Asheville policy requiring new high-density housing developments to include at least 5,000 square feet of community growing space, along with long-term maintenance support.What was the coalition’s biggest failure and lesson learned?Early on, the organization tried to solve too many food system challenges at once. They narrowed their focus, strengthened core programs, and built capacity before expanding again.What is the coalition’s biggest success?Bringing 12 independent food hubs together into a collaborative network focused on regional impact rather than competition.Episode HighlightsDana began farming with Craigslist sheep and YouTube tutorials during COVID.Western North Carolina’s terrain forces farmers to be scrappy and innovative.Food hubs offer consistent year-round markets for small farmers.The region supports 12 collaborating food hubs and 9 food councils.The coalition operates a central warehouse to aggregate donations and distribute food across multiple counties.24/7 open-access pantries remove barriers to food access.Local food improves freshness, nutrition, and taste.Dana’s driving motivation: building a resilient food system for her daughter’s future.ResourcesWestern North Carolina Food Coalition — https://www.wncfoodcoalition.orgInstagram — https://www.instagram.com/wncfoodcoalitionBecome a Member — https://www.wncfoodcoalition.org (Join for as little as $1)Show Notes — https://urbanfarm.org/WNCFoodCoalitionBook Recommendation — The Whole Okra by Chris Smith Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. 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A Garden Chat with Don TitmusIn This Episode: Noel Ruiz shares his journey from urban Southern California to rural Southern Oregon, where he and his family run Homestead Culture. What began as a struggling backyard garden evolved into a life centered on permaculture, seed saving, perennial crops, and heart-centered homesteading. Noel explains grexes, seed diversity, and multi-generational thinking—while reflecting on failure, renewal, and cultivating culture from the inside out. This episode explores how growing seeds can also grow resilience, connection, and joy.Our Guest: Noel is a gardener, homesteader, seed saver, lover of plants and a proud father. Together, he and his sweetheart offer homestead grown seeds of perennial vegetables, flowers, herbs in diverse mixes and grexes, through their family business Homestead Culture. Noel shares free resources and online education around seed saving through HomesteadCulture.com. He enjoys writing articles that explore changing culture, personal transformation, gardening and seeds all while blurring the lines between work and life, as he practices homesteading from the heart.Key TopicsHomestead Culture (family-run seed and education business)Permaculture design & soil regenerationWWOOF (Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms)Seed saving on a homestead scaleGrex breeding & genetic diversityLandrace adaptationPerennial vegetables, herbs, and flowersMulti-generational thinking in homesteadingHomesteading from the heartCultural transformation through gardeningProtecting fruit and nut trees from deer and rodentsLandrace Gardening by Joseph LofthouseOne-Straw Revolution by Masanobu FukuokaKey Questions What happens when your garden fails—and what can it teach you?Noel’s first larger garden struggled due to depleted, scraped topsoil. A permaculture consultation revealed the real issue: soil health, not personal failure. That shift reframed his mindset and launched his journey into regenerative practices.What is WWOOF, and how can it accelerate learning?WWOOF (Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms) connects learners with farms and homesteads in exchange for room, board, and hands-on education. Noel spent two years immersed in diverse homesteads, gaining practical skills and mentorship.What does “homestead culture” mean?For Noel, “home” extends beyond a house to watershed and region. “Stead” means to stand firm. “Culture” means to cultivate. Together, it represents rooting deeply in place and tending life in ways that foster abundance, cooperation, and multi-generational resilience.Why plant trees from seed instead of grafted stock?While grafted trees fruit faster, seed-grown trees offer deep relationship and long-term legacy. Noel values the joy of growing plants from infancy and stewarding trees that may outlive him.What is a grex—and why grow one?A grex allows multiple varieties to cross-pollinate, saving seeds from diverse offspring. This increases adaptation, resilience, and joy in diversity. It’s both a practical breeding strategy and a celebration of natural cross-pollination.What is the difference between a seed farmer and a seed producer?Noel distinguishes himself as a homestead-scale seed producer, honoring full-time seed farmers who grow at commercial scale. His focus is small-batch perennial vegetables, flowers, herbs, and grexes.How can personal failure become transformation?After divorce and job loss, Noel entered a period of growth through volunteering and WWOOFing. The journey led to emotional maturity, reconnection with his former spouse, and the foundation of their current homesteading life together.What book is essential for seed savers?Landrace Gardening by Joseph Lofthouse reframed Noel’s approach to seed purity and adaptation. He sees it as required reading for both new and experienced seed savers.Episode HighlightsNoel’s first 300-square-foot garden sparked a lifelong passion.Soil failure became the gateway to permaculture.A paid farm job paid little—but delivered deep purpose.Two years of WWOOFing replaced career confusion with clarity.Homestead Culture emerged as a family-centered, heart-driven brand.Growing trees from seed is about relationship, not speed.Grexes increase resilience and garden-level adaptation.“We are all in it together”—multi-generational problems require multi-generational thinking.ResourcesHomestead Culture — https://homesteadculture.com/8 Freebies for Gardeners & Homesteaders — https://homesteadculture.com/freebies/Best Seed Saving Online Courses & Classes — https://homesteadculture.com/seed-saving-online-courses-classes/Seed Resources (Free Articles) — https://homesteadculture.com/seed-resources/Seed Catalog — https://homesteadculture.com/shop/Coupon Code (15% off seeds & courses for two weeks): URBANFARMRecommended ReadingLandrace Gardening by Joseph LofthouseOne-Straw Revolution by Masanobu FukuokaSponsorsHomestead Culture — Family-grown perennial vegetable, flower, herb, and grex seeds, plus online seed-saving education.https://homesteadculture.com/Visit www.urbanfarm.org/HomesteadCulture for the show notes on this episode, and access to our full podcast library! Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges. You can chat with Greg or choose one of the senior members of our Urban Farm team to get permaculture based feedback.Click HERE to learn more! *Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show notes and blog posts are affiliate links and if you go through them to make a purchase, we will earn a nominal commission at no cost to you. We offer links to items recommended by our podcast guests and guest writers as a service to our audience and these items are not selected because of the commission we receive from your purchases. We know the decision is yours, and whether you decide to buy something is completely up to you.

-(subtitle)-.In This Podcast: In this episode, Greg chats with sourdough baker, teacher, and cookbook author Amy Coyne of Amy Bakes Breadto demystify sourdough from starter to slice. Amy shares her personal journey into sourdough, explains the science and simplicity behind naturally fermented bread, and offers practical guidance for beginners and experienced bakers alike. The conversation covers fermentation, hydration, common mistakes, discard recipes, and how to make sourdough fit into busy family life. Throughout, Amy emphasizes patience, experimentation, and joy in the process.Our Guest: Amy Coyne is a sourdough baker, teacher and creator behind Amy Bakes Bread, where she shares tried and true sourdough recipes that are approachable, reliable, and fun to make. She's been baking for as long as she can remember, and sourdough has been part of her kitchen for over 13 years. Amy is the author of The Beginner's Guide to Sourdough, A cookbook made to help every home baker feel confident creating incredible sourdough bread from scratch. Key Topics & EntitiesAmy CoyneSourdough starterNatural fermentationWild yeast and bacteriaHydration levels in breadDutch oven bakingSourdough discardInclusion loavesFamily-friendly sourdoughThe Beginner’s Guide to SourdoughAmy Bakes BreadHome baking scienceKey Questions AnsweredWhat makes sourdough different from conventional bread?Sourdough relies on natural fermentation rather than commercial yeast, resulting in improved digestibility, lower glycemic response, and better nutrient absorption due to reduced phytic acid.How do you create and maintain a sourdough starter?A starter is made by culturing wild yeast and bacteria from flour and water through regular feedings, watching for predictable rise-and-fall cycles, and adjusting temperature and ratios for consistency.How does temperature affect sourdough fermentation?Warmer temperatures speed fermentation while cooler conditions slow it down, meaning timelines must shift with seasons and kitchen conditions.What is hydration, and why does it matter?Hydration refers to the ratio of water to flour; higher hydration creates a more open, airy crumb, while lower hydration produces a tighter, more structured loaf.What are the most common mistakes new sourdough bakers make?Unrealistic expectations, discomfort with wet doughs, and misunderstanding fermentation timing are common early hurdles.What can you do with sourdough discard instead of throwing it away?Discard can be used in crackers, pancakes, biscuits, cookies, gravies, and more—adding flavor, texture, and reducing waste.How can sourdough be adapted for busy schedules and families?Using refrigeration, adjusting starter ratios, and choosing approachable recipes makes sourdough manageable and sustainable long-term.Episode HighlightsSourdough bread uses just four core ingredients: flour, water, salt, and starterFermentation improves both flavor and nutritional availabilityStarters can be refrigerated to fit modern lifestylesHydration and flour choice dramatically affect loaf structureDutch ovens help home bakers replicate professional steam bakingInclusion loaves (cheese, fruit, nuts, butter) expand sourdough’s versatilityDiscard recipes turn “waste” into some of the most flavorful bakesCalls to Action & ResourcesAmy Bakes Bread — https://amybakesbread.comThe Beginner’s Guide to Sourdough — Available at local bookstores, libraries, and major retailersExplore sourdough discard recipes and free guides on Amy’s websiteVisit UrbanFarm.org/AmyBakesBread for the show notes and links on this episode!Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges.You can chat with us to get permaculture based feedback.Click HERE to learn more!*Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show notes and blog posts are affiliate links and if you go through them to make a purchase, we will earn a nominal commission at no cost to you. We offer links to items recommended by our podcast guests and guest writers as a service to our audience and these items are not selected because of the commission we receive from your purchases. We know the decision is yours, and whether you decide to buy something is completely up to you.

With Beatrice Nathan...Curious permaculture storyIn This Podcast: Beatrice Nathan joins the podcast to explore how permaculture principles can be applied to family life, childcare, and community resilience. She shares her journey from home gardening to teaching permaculture, and launching a Village Roots childcare co-op. The conversation weaves together food production, social permaculture, and mutual aid as practical responses to modern parenting and systemic stress. This episode highlights slow, small solutions that build trust, connection, and long-term community health.Our Guest: Beatrice Nathan is a home gardener, permaculture teacher, turmeric farmer, and mom to two boys. She is passionate about reweaving the web of social support, empowering ordinary people to grow food and teaching practical design principles. She believes that we all have a part to play in creating a better future. Key Topics & EntitiesBeatrice NathanPermaculture ethics (Earth Care, People Care, Fair Share)Social permacultureVillage Roots Childcare Co-opBabysitting co-ops / time-based exchangeFront-yard food gardensCommunity resilienceParenting and childcare affordabilityPermaculture zones applied to time and energyDegrowth philosophyPermaculture Design Course (PDC)Ruby Ranch (Asheville, NC)Key Questions AnsweredWhat is permaculture beyond gardening?Permaculture is a framework for living a good life, offering ethics and principles that can be applied to land stewardship, relationships, parenting, and community design—not just gardens.How does a childcare co-op work without money?Families exchange babysitting hours using a shared spreadsheet. Hours earned caring for one family’s children can be used with any family in the co-op, building trust and flexibility without cash.Why is childcare so challenging for families today?High costs, limited availability, misaligned schedules, and the emotional toll on young children make conventional childcare inaccessible or unsustainable for many families.How does the Village Roots Childcare Co-op embody permaculture?The co-op applies permaculture ethics and principles like slow and small solutions, stacking functions, feedback loops, and people care to meet real childcare and community needs.How can permaculture help parents—especially mothers—avoid burnout?By reframing priorities through concepts like zones of time and energy, permaculture helps parents let go of nonessential commitments and focus on connection during demanding life seasons.What’s the value of front-yard food gardens?Front-yard gardens invite conversation, sharing, and relationship-building with neighbors, turning food production into a social connector.How can someone start a similar co-op in their community?Start small, set a geographic boundary, clearly communicate expectations, onboard families personally, and use existing guides and templates to reduce friction.Why is community-building increasingly important?As larger systems become more fragile, hyper-local, trust-based networks like co-ops, time banks, and tool libraries help meet needs when institutions fall short.Episode HighlightsPermaculture as a life framework, not just a land design toolApplying permaculture ethics to childcare and family systemsDesigning a babysitting co-op using time instead of moneyFront-yard gardens as hubs for neighborhood connectionReframing permaculture zones around time, energy, and life seasonsDegrowth, relocalization, and mutual aid as practical responses to system stressTeaching permaculture through lived, community-based examplesCalls to Action & ResourcesVillage Roots show notes — urbanfarm.org/villagerootsGrow & Harvest Asheville — https://growandharvestasheville.comPermaculture at Ruby Ranch (PDC) — https://growandharvestasheville.comSubstack: Collapsing Into Permaculture — Collapsing Into PermacultureSubstack guide referenced: Cramming for the ApocalypseInstagram: Grow & Harvest AVL — Grow_Harvest_AVLVisit UrbanFarm.org/VillageRoots for the show notes and links on this episode!Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges. You can chat with us to get permaculture based feedback.Click HERE to learn more!*Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show notes and blog posts are affiliate links and if you go through them to make a purchase, we will earn a nominal commission at no cost to you. We offer links to items recommended by our podcast guests and guest writers as a service to our audience and these items are not selected because of the commission we receive from your purchases. We know the decision is yours, and whether you decide to buy something is completely up to you.

A Rosie On The House ReplayIn this episode we explore the concept of wicking bed gardens, hosted by Romey Romero & Farmer Greg, our guest is .Farmer Greg joins Romey Romero on Rosie on the House to break down how to successfully grow fruit trees in the low desert, even during unusually warm winters. He explains why fruit trees are worth planting, how climate confusion affects citrus and deciduous trees, and the most common mistakes that kill young trees. The conversation covers proven planting methods, soil preparation, watering strategies, and long-term thinking for orchards that can produce for decades. This episode is a practical, experience-based guide for homeowners who want reliable fruit harvests in desert climates.Key Topics & EntitiesLow desert fruit tree growingCitrus varieties (navel, Cara Cara, Trovita, Minneola, Gold Nugget)Deciduous fruit trees (apple, peach, apricot, plum, jujube, mulberry)Low-chill requirementsRootstock selectionBare root treesUrban Farm Fruit Tree ProgramSix-Six Basin RuleDesert soil organic matterMycorrhizae and soil biologyIrrigation and deep wateringMulch and microclimatesKey Questions AnsweredWhy plant fruit trees instead of relying on store-bought fruit?Homegrown fruit has superior flavor, freshness, and nutritional value, and a single tree can produce for decades with proper care.What makes fruit trees struggle during warm winters in the desert?Low-chill trees may not receive enough cold hours to set fruit consistently, causing irregular growth, dormancy confusion, or skipped production years. Therefore, we need to make sure we plant low chill fruit trees.What are the three non-negotiables when buying fruit trees for the low desert?Choose low-chill varieties, ensure the correct rootstock for desert conditions, and select soft-flesh fruit that ripens before July 1.What are the most common ways people accidentally kill fruit trees?Planting in hot microclimates, allowing grass to compete with roots, and relying on shallow daily drip irrigation.How should fruit trees actually be watered in the desert?Deep, infrequent watering—about once a month in winter and every 10–14 days in summer—allowing soil to dry between waterings.Why are bare root trees preferred for deciduous fruit?They’re planted while dormant, establish faster, and adapt better long-term than potted trees when planted correctly.How long does it take for a fruit tree to really produce?Year one focuses on roots, year two on shoots, year three begins fruiting, and years four to five bring full production.Episode HighlightsFruit trees thrive when planted for climate, not convenienceCitrus can be harvested across six months with smart variety selectionThe Six-Six Basin Rule dramatically improves survival and growthDesert soil must be rebuilt with organic matter and biologyOverwatering and under watering look the same—but both can kill treesBare root planting in January sets trees up for lifelong successA single well-planted tree can produce for 50–100 yearsCalls to Action & ResourcesUrban Farm Fruit Tree Program — https://www.fruittrees.orgFree Desert Fruit Tree Master Course — https://www.fruittrees.orgQuestions or tree photos — greg@urbanfarm.orgVisit www.UrbanFarm.org/962 for the show notes and links on this episode!Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges. You can chat with Greg, Janis or Ray to get permaculture based feedback.Click HERE to learn more!*Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show notes and blog posts are affiliate links and if you go through them to make a purchase, we will earn a nominal commission at no cost to you. We offer links to items recommended by our podcast guests and guest writers as a service to our audience and these items are not selected because of the commission we receive from your purchases. We know the decision is yours, and whether you decide to buy something is completely up to you.

Don Tipping's Legacy of Regenerative FarmingIn This Podcast: Greg reconnects with returning guest Don Tipping to explore nearly a decade of evolution at Seven Seeds Farm and Siskiyou Seeds. The conversation dives deep into regenerative farming, bioregional seed stewardship, on-farm ecology, and the long arc of plant breeding as climate adaptation. Don shares practical insights from 30 years of full-time farming, from pest resilience without chemicals to compost, livestock integration, and the vision for a decentralized bioregional seed bank. The episode emphasizes patience, systems thinking, and seed saving as both a practical skill and a cultural act.Guest Bio: Don has been farming and offering hands on, practical workshops at Seven Seeds Farm since 1997. Seven Seeds is a small, certified organic family farm in the Siskiyou Mountains of SW Oregon that produces fruits, vegetables, seeds, flowers and herbs, while raising sheep, poultry and people. The farm has been designed to function as a self-contained, life regenerating organism with waste products being recycled and feeding other elements of the system. Lauded as one of the best examples of a small productive Biodynamic and Permaculture farms in the northwest by many, Seven Seeds helps to mentor new farmers through internships and workshops. In 2009 they began Siskiyou Seeds, a bioregional organic seed company that grows and stewards a collection of over 700 open pollinated flower, vegetable and herb seeds and is constantly breeding new varieties.Key Topics & EntitiesDon TippingSeven Seeds FarmSiskiyou Seeds (Siskiyou Seeds)Regenerative agricultureBioregional seed stewardshipOpen-pollinated seedsSeed savingGarden ecologyPlant breedingPermaculture systemsCompost and soil fertilityLivestock integrationClimate adaptationCascadia Seed BankKey Questions AnsweredHow has Don’s farm and seed work evolved over the last nine years?The seed company has grown into the core of the farm’s work, with most annual and perennial crops now grown specifically for seed. Don has shifted toward contracting with a wider network of growers while focusing his own energy on plant breeding, research, and education.What makes bioregional, farmer-grown seed different from industrial seed?Unlike industrial seed—often brokered globally with little transparency—bioregional seed is selected under local climate, pest, and disease pressures. Over time, this results in crops that are better adapted, more resilient, and better suited to regional food systems.Why doesn’t Seven Seeds Farm rely on row covers or chemical inputs?By allowing natural selection to occur—such as letting cucumber beetles eliminate weaker plants—the farm selects for stronger genetics over time. This approach is paired with whole-system ecology that supports predators and beneficial insects.Why should gardeners save their own seed?Seed saving is empowering, abundant, and adaptive. One plant can produce years’ worth of seed, while gradually adapting to a gardener’s microclimate and conditions, even without advanced technical knowledge.How does Don manage seed purity when growing multiple crops?By understanding plant species and their pollination rules, Don grows only one variety per species when crops are close together. Knowing botanical Latin and species boundaries is key to effective seed saving.What role do animals play in the farm’s regenerative system?Livestock act as ecological equalizers—cycling nutrients, selecting diverse forage, and converting plants into fertility, fiber, and food. Sheep, poultry, and other animals help close nutrient loops and reduce off-farm inputs.Why is manure sourcing such a critical issue for organic farms?Persistent herbicides can survive composting and contaminate soil for years. Sourcing manure from known organic dairies ensures transparency, protects soil health, and maintains organic integrity.What is the vision behind the Cascadia Seed Bank?The goal is a decentralized, fireproof, nonprofit bioregional seed bank designed as a living backup for regional food systems—paired with on-farm trials, education, and community engagement.Episode HighlightsThe shift from crop protection to crop selection as a pest-management strategySeed saving as “the original magic penny” that multiplies abundanceGarden ecology as a diagnostic lens for pest and disease problemsCompost as the foundation of soil, seed, and long-term fertilityLivestock hides becoming more valuable than meat in evolving farm economicsPlant breeding as a long-term response to climate changeThe need for regional seed sovereignty beyond global seed vaultsCalls to Action & ResourcesSiskiyou Seeds — https://www.siskiyouseeds.comSiskiyou Seeds YouTube Channel — https://www.youtube.com/@SiskiyouSeedsThe Agrarian Renaissance Podcast — Available on YouTube and podcast platformsVisit UrbanFarm.org/SevenSeeds for the show notes and links on this episode!Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. 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A Garden Chat with Don TitmusGreg Peterson and Don Titmus reconnect for a November Garden Chat focused on reviewing the ethics and principles of permaculture and how they apply beyond gardening into daily life. Drawing from decades of hands-on experience in arid and temperate climates, they explore observation, working with nature, stacking functions, and regenerative design. The conversation weaves together philosophy, practical examples from Phoenix and North Carolina, and reflections on how a Permaculture Design Course (PDC) can fundamentally reshape how people think and live.Our Guest: Don Titmus grew up in London and at age 16 spent 4 years being trained in horticulture through an apprenticeship and a college course. From there he continued landscaping in his hometown until he moved to Arizona in 1981, where he worked in landscaping and then starting his own business in garden maintenance. In 2003 he attended a Permaculture Design Course, which was life-changing for Don. He knew right away that this was the path he’d been waiting for, and later attended two Permaculture Teacher Trainings.Key Topics & EntitiesPermaculture ethicsPermaculture principlesObservation and designWorking with natureElements and stacking functionsZones (including Zone 0 / self-care)Regenerative and edible landscapesDrylands permacultureRainwater harvestingPerennial systemsPermaculture Design Course (PDC)Bill MollisonDavid HolmgrenUrban Farm PodcastBee Oasis (Mesa, AZ)Key Questions AnsweredWhat is permaculture, in simple terms?Permaculture is the art and science of working with nature—observing natural systems and designing human habitats that align with ecological patterns rather than fighting them.What are the core ethics of permaculture?Care for the earth, care for people, and care for the future (often expressed as sharing surplus). These ethics guide every design decision and ensure long-term sustainability and reciprocity.Why is observation considered the foundation of permaculture design?Spending time observing land, climate, wildlife, and human patterns prevents costly mistakes and reveals opportunities to work with existing energy flows rather than against them.What does it mean that “the problem is the solution”?Challenges—such as excess heat, water runoff, or waste—often contain the seeds of their own solutions when reframed through thoughtful design.How do elements and stacking functions create resilience?Each element in a system (trees, chickens, compost, water systems) should serve multiple functions, increasing efficiency, reducing waste, and strengthening connections across the whole system.What is a Permaculture Design Course (PDC), and who is it for?A PDC is a globally recognized 72-hour introduction to permaculture principles and design, tailored to local bioregions and intended to transform how participants think about land, community, and life systems.Why take a PDC in your own bioregion and in person?Local courses address climate-specific realities, and in-person learning builds community, shared experience, and deeper understanding through hands-on practice.How can permaculture principles apply beyond gardening?Permaculture offers a framework for life—informing health, relationships, work, energy use, and even practices like yoga—by emphasizing connection, care, and intentional design.Episode HighlightsPermaculture as a life framework, not just a gardening methodThe importance of long-term observation before making land changesHow drought, heat, and salinity shape drylands permaculture strategiesZone 0 reframed as self-care and personal sustainabilityStacking functions illustrated through trees, chickens, kitchens, and urban planningRegenerative landscapes that produce food with minimal ongoing inputInformation and imagination as key resources in resilient designHow a PDC can permanently shift worldview and decision-makingCalls to Action & ResourcesGarden Chat Community — https://gardenchat.orgPermaculture Design Course (Phoenix) — https://permaculture.netPDC Map (Permaculture Institute of North America) — https://pina.inUrban Farm Podcast — Explore past episodes on permaculture ethics and principlesVisit www.urbanfarm.org/923 for the show notes on this episode, and access to our full podcast library! Need a little bit of advice or just a feedback on your design for your yard or garden?The Urban Farm Team is offering consults over the phone or zoom. Get the benefits of a personalized garden and yard space analysis without the cost of trip charges. You can chat with Greg or choose one of the senior members of our Urban Farm team to get permaculture based feedback.Click HERE to learn more! *Disclosure: Some of the links in our podcast show notes and blog posts are affiliate links and if you go through them to make a purchase, we will earn a nominal commission at no cost to you. We offer links to items recommended by our podcast guests and guest writers as a service to our audience and these items are not selected because of the commission we receive from your purchases. We know the decision is yours, and whether you decide to buy something is completely up to you.