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Kylie Kilgour, Deputy Commissioner at the NACC: On Robodebt
Apr 27, 2026
1h 10m 28s
Robodebt: Reflections on the NACC's Findings
Apr 13, 2026
1h 00m 11s
Mad Cow Disease part 4 - unblocking the beef chain
Mar 30, 2026
42m 46s
Mad Cow Disease part 3 - too much on Monday, too little on Thursday
Mar 16, 2026
40m 00s
What Makes a Bloody Good Policy Officer?
Mar 2, 2026
1h 06m 44s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4/27/26 | Kylie Kilgour, Deputy Commissioner at the NACC: On Robodebt✨ | Robodebtpublic administration+3 | Kylie Kilgour | NACC | Australia | RobodebtNACC+3 | — | 1h 10m 28s | |
| 4/13/26 | Robodebt: Reflections on the NACC's Findings✨ | corruptiongovernment accountability+3 | — | National Anti-Corruption Commission | — | RobodebtNACC+3 | — | 1h 00m 11s | |
| 3/30/26 | Mad Cow Disease part 4 - unblocking the beef chain✨ | Mad Cow Diseasepublic health+4 | — | governmentpublic servicing | beef chain | Mad Cow Diseasepublic health+3 | — | 42m 46s | |
| 3/16/26 | Mad Cow Disease part 3 - too much on Monday, too little on Thursday✨ | mad cow diseasegovernment response+4 | — | — | UK | mad cow diseaseUK government+5 | — | 40m 00s | |
| 3/2/26 | What Makes a Bloody Good Policy Officer?✨ | policy workpolicy officer+3 | Salli Cohen | Rollercoaster: How to be a bloody good policy officer | — | policy officerSalli Cohen+4 | — | 1h 06m 44s | |
| 2/16/26 | 'Mad Cow Disease' part 2 - a bogus professor and a dead cat✨ | Mad Cow DiseaseBSE+3 | — | Government | domestic cats | Mad Cow DiseaseBSE+3 | — | 33m 13s | |
| 2/2/26 | 'Mad Cow Disease' part 1 - a crisis without a crime✨ | government failureBSE+3 | — | Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy | — | Mad Cow DiseaseBSE+5 | — | 32m 05s | |
| 1/12/26 | How to do Big Reform✨ | reformstakeholder expectations+3 | Frances Foster-ThorpeJason Tabarias | Australia | — | reformstakeholders+6 | — | 1h 11m 56s | |
| 12/22/25 | How It Started v How It’s Going: 3 years of TWT✨ | public servicepodcast journey+3 | — | TWT | — | podcastpublic service+5 | — | 51m 51s | |
| 12/8/25 | Buzzword Bingo✨ | buzzwordspublic service+3 | — | — | — | buzzword bingopublic service+3 | — | 46m 38s | |
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| 11/24/25 | Imagine if... you were leading an orchard of bad apples | Your shiny new promotion turns out to be more than you bargained for. In this scenario-based "Imagine if..." episode, Caroline and Danielle assume the role of a newly promoted manager who steps into a team they didn’t choose and some character-building challenges. ⚠️ Mild trigger warning for the depiction of toxic colleagues - we've all had one! We cover: Walking the floor and gathering intelHow to give the boss response to a credibility challengeClarifying the authorising e... | 55m 42s | ||||||
| 11/10/25 | Imagine if … your sleepy grants program woke up | When politics meets process, what’s a conscientious public servant to do? This “Imagine if…” episode puts Alison and Danielle in the shoes of a project manager caught between legality, leadership and media heat — and explores what good judgment looks like when everyone’s waiting to be told what’s important. The first in an “Imagine if…” series as requested by listeners — exploring the messy, real-world dilemmas of public administration. We cover: · Managing up and whether ... | 52m 23s | ||||||
| 10/27/25 | Inside the public service's ‘Human Handbrake’: why reform stalls and how to fix it | Demos has released a fascinating paper, The Human Handbrake, on the five human habits that stall public sector reform. In this episode we pick through each of them - fear, heroics, tribes, tidiness, and tempo - and test practical fixes from risk stratification to outcome-focused equity. Topics covered include: fear-driven risk culture and how to stratify risksafe-to-fail spaces vs non-negotiable protectionspolicy hero incentives vs long-term stewardshiprecruitment, merit, and better reference... | 50m 03s | ||||||
| 10/13/25 | “It’s just a minor restructure” said no calendar ever | In our second change management episode, Danielle pulls apart the myth of the “minor” restructure and lay out a practical way to change without breaking the work. From function mapping and ministerial comms to union engagement and the “fourth trimester”, we consider how to make change stick with clarity and care. why six to nine months is realistic for restructuresfunction before form and mapping real workaligning vision to delivery using bottom‑up designministers and boards as informed stake... | 49m 11s | ||||||
| 9/29/25 | Who Really Moved My Cheese? Tales from the change management trenches | Danielle takes us on a romp through change management, starting, as with all good contrarians, with a challenge to the idea of ‘change management’ itself. Some of the ideas covered: Change is happening all the time in government, not just during formal "change management" periodsMost people dislike uncertainty rather than change itselfMission and values-driven staff struggle most with macro changes that shift agency directionMedium-level changes (like new systems) are often underestimat... | 43m 26s | ||||||
| 9/15/25 |  Regulator/policy cage fight: ANZSOG National Regulators Community of Practice Conference 2025 | Our first live show at the wildly successful ANZSOG NRCOP Conference in Brisbane August 2025. The conversation tackles head-on the structural disconnections between our regulatory and policy systems, particularly in federated models like early childhood education. How do we reconcile a Commonwealth pouring billions into subsidies while state-based quality regulators remain chronically underfunded? What happens when funding accessibility doesn't come with proportionate strengthening of quality... | 48m 33s | ||||||
| 9/1/25 |  The Hon Tom Koutsantonis MP: Lessons from a Veteran Minister | What makes someone qualified to be a minister? In this candid conversation with Tom Koutsantonis, South Australia's longest-serving current parliamentarian, Danielle explores the fascinating intersection where political leadership meets public administration. Drawing on his remarkable career spanning multiple portfolios including Treasury, Energy, and Transport, Koutsantonis takes us behind the curtain of ministerial decision-making. He dispels the myth that ministers need specialised experti... | 48m 49s | ||||||
| 8/18/25 | The Billion-Dollar Payroll Disaster: lessons from Queensland Health’s Payroll System | In this episode, Danielle, Caroline and Alison look at ANOTHER big ICT transformation project, with enormous human impacts and a long and expensive clean up. The Queensland Health payroll system failure ranks as one of Australia's worst public administration disasters, costing taxpayers $1.2 billion and leaving 78,000 healthcare workers without proper pay. What began as a $98 million routine upgrade became a case study in governance failure, mismanaged procurement, and the dangers... | 42m 14s | ||||||
| 8/4/25 | Working from home: when flexibility becomes political | In this episode, we dive into Danielle’s favourite topic - work place flexibility. Public servants working from home has become a visible fault line in Australian politics and media, revealing deeper questions about productivity, surveillance, and trust in our workplaces. The convenience culture debate exposes how work design impacts everything from gender equity to regional development. Danielle, Alison and Caroline unpack the following: That COVID forced rapid technology deployment and show... | 43m 50s | ||||||
| 7/21/25 |  The Radical How: Why one big bet is government’s riskiest move | What if the real problem in public service reform isn't what we're trying to do, but how we're trying to do it? Caroline, Danielle, and Alison dive deep into a revolutionary approach to government change by examining The Radical How – a framework published by UK innovation foundation Nesta. The conversation unpacks three core principles that could transform public service: start small and test assumptions early rather than pretending to know all answers upfront;build genuinely multidisciplina... | 51m 07s | ||||||
| 7/7/25 |  Tom Loosemore: behind the scenes of the Universal Credit Reset | Tom Loosemore of Public Digital was instrumental in the capital R Reset of Universal Credit. In this interview, he tells Caroline there were no beanbags, but a lot of multi-D. This interview adds nuance and richness to the picture sketched in our previous Universal Credit episodes. Some of the key insights include: Fundamental problem of the original approach was thinking of Universal Credit as a technology challenge rather than a complex policy, operational, and design challengeThe first pha... | 57m 37s | ||||||
| 6/23/25 |  Rescuing a bin fire: Test and Learn and Universal Credit (Part 2) | In this second episode on Universal Credit, we talk about how the team transitioned from catastrophic failure to remarkable success. We cover: The barriers to test and learn - from the need for certainty by leaders, to Treasury requirements for business cases, to the need to support MinistersThe lessons learnt by the 10 year in role SRO Neil Couling [sorry CCB called you Neil Coulson!!] - including ‘avoid the tyranny of the timetable’Whether test and learn will be something younger generation... | 45m 16s | ||||||
| 6/9/25 | From hot mess to delivered: Universal Credit and delivering system wide reform (Part 1) | In the shadow of worries about the NDIS, do we even believe that big system reform in Australia is do-able any more? Is the juice worth the squeeze? In this first of a two part series, we explore the example of Universal Credit, a 15 year long reform agenda in the UK to combine 6 benefits into one, and, more importantly, seeking to transform the relationship of the citizen to work and welfare. In this episode we unpick how it goes from an idea that is incorporated into the UK Coalition ... | 40m 07s | ||||||
| 5/26/25 | The Vanstone Files: Unpacking Ministerial Power | In a wide ranging discussion, Alison, Caroline and Danielle come together to discuss the gems from the Amanda Vanstone interview, which examined how power, responsibility and decision-making played out at the top of government during her two decades as a federal minister. Vanstone's approach to being a minister - asking questions until understanding, visiting programs unannounced, and taking full responsibility for decisions - offers deep insights. We also canvas some less expected topics, in... | 44m 41s | ||||||
| 5/12/25 |  The Hon Amanda Vanstone AO - Inside the Westminster Machine | Former Senator Amanda Vanstone offers a masterclass in ministerial leadership, delivering sharp insights from her 21-year political career that are as relevant today as they were during her time in Prime Minister Howard's Cabinet. Cutting through bureaucratic excuses with remarkable clarity, she reveals how effective ministers must take full responsibility while developing practical strategies to uncover what's really happening within their departments. Vanstone's approach to ministerial over... | 1h 11m 40s | ||||||
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