Safe Enough

Safe Enough

From Things That Go Boom by PRX

May 25, 2026 · 28 min

About this episode

This episode explores the aftermath of a train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio, focusing on the ongoing struggles of residents and the implications of government emergency response.

After a Norfolk Southern train carrying toxic chemicals derailed in East Palestine, Ohio, residents were told the air was safe and the situation was under control. But for many people living there, the emergency never really ended. In this episode, East Palestine resident and Rail Watch founder Jess Conard takes us inside the chaos and confusion of the derailment’s aftermath: shifting evacuation zones, lingering chemical smells, chronic health problems, and the exhausting burden of trying to prove harm after disaster strikes. But this story isn’t just about one train derailment. It’s about what actually counts as an emergency in the eyes of the federal government — and what kind of response that label unlocks. As Congress routinely moves billions of dollars quickly and flexibly for war and national security priorities, communities impacted by industrial disaster often struggle to access long-term healthcare, environmental testing, or meaningful support. Through conversations with budget experts Steve Ellis and Julia Gledhill, this episode examines how emergency spending works, how “urgent” becomes a political category, and what those choices reveal about whose suffering matters…

People in this episode

Guests: Jess Conard, Steve Ellis, Julia Gledhill

Topics covered

  • train derailment
  • toxic chemicals
  • emergency response
  • health impacts
  • government spending
  • community support

Keywords

  • East Palestine
  • train derailment
  • toxic chemicals
  • health problems
  • emergency spending
  • government response
  • community impact

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Rail Watch, Taxpayers for Common Sense, Stimson Center

Places: East Palestine, Ohio

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