
Think Big, Buy Small
Are you looking for an alternative to a career path at a big firm? Does founding your own startup seem too risky? There's another compelling path open to you: acquiring a small business and running it as CEO. Co-hosted b...
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- Rick1 ep
- Royce1 ep
- Nick Kerr1 ep
Also: Shaquille Walker, Meghan Orzetti, Ike Ukawuba, Rob LeBlanc, Michael Aubrey, Jim Sebenius, A.J. Wasserstein, Paige Sopcic, Bruce Marks, Kent Weaver
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- 🇺🇸United States · EntrepreneurshipHOME#11911K to 60K
- 🇹🇭TH · Entrepreneurship#142.1K to 11K
- 🇩🇪Germany · Entrepreneurship#851.1K to 5.9K
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18K to 96K🎙 Sporadic cadence·41 episodes·Last published 2d ago - Monthly Reach
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18K to 96K🇺🇸63%🇹🇭12%🇩🇪6%+5 more - Active Followers
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 10/19/26 | When Search Doesn’t End in an Acquisition | What happens when a searcher doesn’t find a company to buy? In this episode, Rick and Royce talk with Kristin Wihera, a Navy veteran and HBS graduate who spent nearly two years searching for a business to acquire before ultimately ending her search without a deal. Kristin reflects on the emotional highs and lows of searching, the challenges of cold outreach, and the tradeoffs of pursuing a funded search with investors who had particular expectations around company size, growth, and returns. She also discusses how her military background helped – and sometimes hindered – her efforts to establish credibility with sellers, why she ultimately expanded the search beyond her original industry focus, and which businesses she seriously considered as acquisition targets but ultimately did not close on. Her story, however, is not one of failure. After ending her search, Kristin found a role with a venture fund investing in early-stage, deep-tech companies in Utah, a job she believes she would not have qualified for without the skills, experience, and network she developed while searching. Also discussed are changes in the search landscape, including the growing importance of relationship-driven sourcing, the evolving role of brokers, and the increasing divergence between funded and unfunded search. Kristin’s experience offers a valuable reminder that a search can be transformative, positively impacting a career, even when it doesn’t end with an acquisition. | 44m 30s | ||||||
| 10/12/26 | From Entrepreneur to Acquisition Entrepreneur | Entrepreneurship through acquisition doesn't always begin with a formal search. In this episode, Rick and Royce talk with Aaron Wyatt, an entrepreneur who built his business organically after leaving a sales job to become an independent manufacturer's representative. Aaron shares how he grew his business by deepening relationships with customers and family-owned manufacturers, while deliberately adding complementary product lines. He also reflects on the risks of leaving W2 employment and why, for him, those risks felt manageable when viewed as simply taking the next step. Aaron has since taken another step in his journey, purchasing a garage door service company with a longtime friend. He discusses what attracted them to the business, how they approached the transition with employees, the small operational changes that helped improve performance, and why they chose a buy-and-hold strategy rather than pursuing a quick exit. Along the way, Rick and Royce explore what Aaron's journey reveals about the many paths into acquisition entrepreneurship, and why existing entrepreneurs may be an important, though often overlooked, group of business buyers. This episode serves as a reminder that, for some entrepreneurs, the path to owning a business isn't necessarily a formal search but simply recognizing the next opportunity and being willing to take it. | 48m 49s | ||||||
| 10/5/26 | From Searcher to Seller: The Long Road to a Successful Exit | Bruce Isaacson spent two years searching for a company to buy before acquiring a decades-old marketing research firm in 2005. Since that time, he has transformed the business, shifting its focus to litigation research and building a thriving professional services firm. In 2025, after years of growth, Bruce made the difficult decision to sell. In this episode, Bruce is joined by Rudy Scarito, the investment banker who advised him on the sale. Together with Rick and Royce, they discuss the patience and persistence required to turn around a business, the importance of finding a company that fits the entrepreneur, and why success sometimes takes longer than expected. Bruce and Rudy also share their candid reflections on the emotional complexity of selling a business, from choosing the right buyer and navigating “cold feet” to thinking about employees, succession, and life after ownership. The conversation offers a rare look at the other side of the ETA journey – and why, for some owners, selling a business is less about accumulating wealth or retiring than about building something meaningful and leaving it in good hands. | 47m 46s | ||||||
| 9/28/26 | Reflections On the Evolution of ETA | Jeff Stevens, one of the earliest searchers and a longtime investor in the ETA ecosystem, joins Rick and Royce to discuss how search has evolved over the past thirty-five years. In this episode, he reflects on the early days of search, when the model was largely uncharted territory, and contrasts that experience with searching in today’s more developed – but still challenging – landscape. Jeff discusses why searchers should focus on building relationships and credibility with business owners, how technology has transformed the sourcing process, and the trade-offs between industry-focused, geographically focused, funded, and self-funded searches. He also shares his perspective on the growing overlap between search and private equity, the role of the entrepreneur-CEO in creating value, and why he believes the traditional search model’s emphasis on managing risk and buying strong businesses remains powerful. They also delve into why search success rates have declined as the ecosystem has grown, the changing role of investors, and the importance of distinguishing between simply buying a company and buying a great company. Tune in to this engaging conversation to hear how one of ETA’s original practitioners views the opportunities and challenges facing the next generation of searchers. | 57m 16s | ||||||
| 9/21/26 | Should Searchers Look More Seriously at Franchises? | Michael Horowitz is a former searcher who acquired, scaled, and ultimately sold a portfolio of Wingstop franchise restaurants before becoming an investor in the ETA ecosystem. In this episode, he shares his unconventional journey to business ownership and offers an insider's perspective on what makes franchising a compelling but often misunderstood path for acquisition entrepreneurs. Together, they discuss the advantages of established brands, proven operating systems, benchmarking, and more predictable cash flows, as well as the tradeoffs associated with royalties, choosing the right franchisor, and managing multi-unit businesses. They also explore why franchise opportunities are often overlooked by searchers, how franchise portfolios are valued, why geographic density matters, and what role acquisitions and new unit development play in creating value over time. Whether you're considering a more traditional search or evaluating franchises as part of your acquisition strategy, this conversation offers practical insights on when and why franchising may be an attractive path to business ownership. | 54m 48s | ||||||
| 9/14/26 | The Role of Culture in Scaling an ETA Business | After a self-funded search led to the acquisition of Ally Waste in 2020, James Crawley grew the company more than thirty-five-fold. What did it take to scale the business from a handful of employees to a nationwide operation, with hundreds of team members working independently across dozens of states? Many entrepreneurs focus on systems and processes when growing a business. James, however, argues that culture deserves equal attention. In this episode, he explains how a clearly defined mission and a set of core values – including an unusual "no jerks" policy – became the foundation for scaling Ally Waste. James also discusses why culture is more than a set of aspirational statements, how it shapes hiring and management decisions, why investing in people can become a lasting competitive advantage, and how leadership is ultimately about developing people who serve others. Whether you're acquiring a small business or leading a growing organization, tune in to learn how an intentional culture can become one of the most powerful tools for driving performance, building loyalty, and sustaining long-term growth. | 52m 03s | ||||||
| 8/31/26 | entrepreneurship through acquisitionlong-term holding companies+3 | Kent Weaver | Harvard Business School | — | long-term holding companiesentrepreneurship+3 | — | 52m 48s | ||
| 12/1/25 | entrepreneurship through acquisitionETA risk tolerance+5 | RickRoyce | Harvard Business School | — | acquisition entrepreneurshipETA+5 | — | 47m 02s | ||
| 11/24/25 | entrepreneurshipconcierge medicine+3 | Nick KerrShaquille Walker | HealthBridge | Long Island | concierge medicineentrepreneurship through acquisition+3 | — | 52m 34s | ||
| 11/17/25 | entrepreneurshipacquisition+4 | Meghan Orzetti | Marine Corps | — | entrepreneurship through acquisitionfamily support+4 | — | 38m 26s | ||
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| 11/10/25 | acquisition entrepreneurshipcareer development+3 | Ike Ukawuba | AccentureHarvard Business School | Chicago | entrepreneurshipacquisition+5 | — | 41m 55s | ||
| 11/3/25 | search fund investingfrontier markets+4 | Rob LeBlanc | Ambit Partners | South Africa | search fundfrontier economies+3 | — | 52m 36s | ||
| 10/27/25 | small business acquisitionsCEO success+4 | Michael Aubrey | Harvard Business School | — | small businessCEO+5 | — | 44m 22s | ||
| 10/20/25 | negotiationentrepreneurship+3 | Jim Sebenius | Harvard Business SchoolThe Action Catalyst+1 | — | negotiation strategies3D model of negotiation+3 | — | 28m 52s | ||
| 10/13/25 | business acquisitionsrevenue quality+3 | A.J. Wasserstein | Yale School of ManagementHarvard Business School | — | revenue typestransactional revenue+3 | — | 47m 09s | ||
| 10/6/25 | entrepreneurshipacquisition+3 | Paige Sopcic | GECanSource+1 | — | entrepreneurshipacquisition+6 | — | 58m 19s | ||
| 9/29/25 | acquisition financingSBA lending+4 | Bruce Marks | SBAHarvard Business School | — | acquisitionfinancing+5 | — | 52m 50s | ||
| 9/22/25 | You Don't Need an MBA to Pursue ETA | It's always fascinating to hear the journey of someone who doesn't have a conventional MBA background but still finds their way to ETA, identifies high-quality acquisition opportunities, and then successfully buys and operates a small business. In this episode, we meet Tom Allsworth, who was in the Merchant Marine Academy and the Marines Corps, followed by some work experience at home and abroad, before acquiring Pacific Opportunities, a company that helps adults who experience intellectual or developmental disabilities to find and maintain employment. In 2024, he closed on a second acquisition, Trellis, to further expand his service offerings. In this conversation, Tom reflects on the process of finding and acquiring Pacific Opportunities, including why he considered himself to be “the luckiest guy in the world”; the magic in the multiples, but also how the multiple can change depending on which factors are included in one’s calculations; stroke-of-pen risk in government funded services; leadership, company culture, and building organizations with meaningful community impact; and more. Tom’s story is both inspiring and instructive – a compelling reminder that there’s no single path into ETA, and that diverse experiences can be powerful assets on the road to becoming an acquisition entrepreneur. | 46m 11s | ||||||
| 9/15/25 | A Bird’s Eye View of ETA | Will Smith, Partner at Minds Capital, has been host of the Acquiring Minds podcast for over four years and, during that time, has had the opportunity to speak with hundreds of searchers-turned-entrepreneurs, affording him a true bird’s eye view of the ETA landscape. In this wide-ranging discussion, Will reflects on personal traits that set top-performing searchers apart; company characteristics that can stack the odds of success in a searcher’s favor, with a focus on quality of revenue; common pitfalls that can derail even the most dedicated of searchers; advice for new business owners, including the power of small gestures; and more. Whether you’re already running a search-acquired business, in the midst of a search, or still in the early days of exploring ETA, this episode distills years of hard-earned wisdom into one must-listen conversation. | 50m 15s | ||||||
| 9/8/25 | The Value of Roll-Ups As Seen Through the Lens of Music Schools | Jeff Homer is the founder of Ensemble Performing Arts, an organization that provides back-of-house support to music schools, allowing teachers to focus on what’s most important to them, excellence in music education. Though there are now over seventy music schools under Ensemble’s umbrella, it all began with Jeff’s acquisition of a single school in Colorado, initially meant as a side hustle that would allow him to both work at his day job in a family office and to pursue his passion for music. What he discovered along the way, as he began to roll up more music schools around the country, is that many of these founders are immensely talented musicians but are far less interested in, and have not been trained to carry out, the administrative burden that goes hand-in-hand with music school operations. In this conversation, Rick and Royce ask Jeff for his thoughts on the value of lower market roll-ups and why he believes music schools to be high-quality businesses. They also discuss the perils of part-time search, and those rare instances when it just might work; why, in hiring, Jeff selects for senior leaders who have an affinity for music; his approach to financing the many acquisitions he's made; why Jeff decided against rebranding the schools that he acquired; his vision of the future for Ensemble; and more. Listeners will gain insights on not only creating value in a roll-up but also on finding creative niches in the marketplace to roll-up. It’s a fascinating conversation! | 52m 54s | ||||||
| 8/25/25 | Where Are They Now? A Conversation with Nick Wheeler | Last summer when, after a self-funded search, Nick Wheeler was only a few months into his new role as President at Tra-Cal, Rick and Royce had a chance to speak with him about his early experiences at the company’s helm. In that Season One episode, Nick confessed that he was “drinking from the fire hose”, but he also believed that Tra-Cal had been a high-quality acquisition and was optimistically looking ahead to the company’s future. In this conversation, Nick reflects on the journey he’s taken since last touching base with Rick and Royce fourteen months ago. Together they discuss the ongoing evolution of the company, encompassing Nick’s own transition from an early-days learning mode to a current focus on growth; hiring challenges and successes; advice to current searchers on the kinds of skills that are important for successfully running a small business; what Nick most appreciates about his current role; and more. Our hosts also look ahead to Think Big, Buy Small’s third season, launching on September 8th, in which they'll engage in many fascinating, forthcoming conversations. Tune in wherever you get your podcasts! | 24m 37s | ||||||
| 4/21/25 | Questions and Answers with Rick and Royce | At the end of each episode, Rick and Royce ask listeners to reach out with any questions they may have related to entrepreneurship through acquisition. In response, we’ve heard from people at all stages of their entrepreneurship through acquisition journeys, along with other stakeholders in search. Now, in the final episode of Season Two, our hosts address many of the queries that were received. This wide-ranging discussion includes reflections on how undergraduates can begin to think about the ETA path; traits of successful acquisition entrepreneurs – and whether they’re innate or can be learned; insights on financial modeling and valuation; whether franchises are appealing acquisition targets; mistakes to be avoided in due diligence; trade-offs for investors considering traditional versus self-funded opportunities; artificial intelligence, and more. Rick and Royce also share their thoughts on whether there are ETA-related topics on which they disagree – and they look ahead to Season Three! | 53m 10s | ||||||
| 4/14/25 | A Successful Model for Roll-Ups in Automotive and Beyond | A few years ago, Logan Leslie began his search with the goal of rolling up smaller, same-industry enterprises under the umbrella of one company. Fast forward to today and Logan is CEO of Main Street Auto, which is the parent company to over ninety auto repair shops around the country. In this engaging conversation, Logan shares why he believes the auto industry is ideal for roll-ups, along with his strategy for doing so therein; his thoughts on the importance of a cultural fit in search; how and why he’s been so successful in building the team around him; the role of sale-leaseback transactions in supercharging growth; and his reflections on the advantages of scale, to name but a few examples. Listeners may recall that Rick is generally skeptical of roll-ups. In this episode, however, we learn about the “secret sauce” in Logan’s approach that has Rick reconsidering his long-held position. | 55m 32s | ||||||
| 4/7/25 | The Journey and Impact of a Mission-Driven Searcher | In the last three years, Adriana Garcia Ceja graduated from Harvard Business School, became a mother and, after a funded search, acquired an aging life care management business called ElderTree. Many would-be CEOs set out on their searches primarily wanting to experience the joys of operating a small business, while being more agnostic about what the company does. This was not the case for Adriana, who from the outset wanted to acquire either an addiction recovery center or a company in the elder care space, searching for a business that she believed contributed to the greater good. In this discussion, she reflects on how the mission-driven aspect of her search was instrumental in fundraising conversations; the experience of closing on a business while being thirteen weeks pregnant; how and why the ETA career path can align so well for women; the merits and potential downsides of having an MBA while searching; her future plans for the company; and more. Tune in to learn about Adriana’s distinct journey and why she’s now so well positioned for both personal and professional success. | 53m 28s | ||||||
| 3/31/25 | Learnings From a Former Searcher, Current Investor, and Industry Wise Man | Kent Weaver was an early participant in the world of search, completing a self-funded search that led to his acquisition of a healthcare company in 2002 and then, four years later, putting on his investor hat to make his first investment in search. Today, he’s one of the most experienced and highly regarded funding partners in the space, having invested in over one hundred searches, both traditional and self-funded. In this wide-ranging conversation, they discuss the qualities that Kent looks for in prospective searchers and future CEOs, including reflections on the importance of both hard and soft skills; industry and company characteristics that he screens for during diligence; the pros and cons of solo versus partnered searches, along with funded versus self-funded searches; trends in the world of ETA; and so much more. Kent is truly energized by his collaborations with searchers, and listeners will gain valuable insights from this fascinating discussion with one who has seen so much in search. | 45m 51s | ||||||
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Peaked at #14 in TH, currently #14 in TH.
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| Germany | — | #85 | #85 | — |
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| Canada | — | #97 | #97 | — |
| MY | — | #105 | #105 | — |
| United States | — | #119 | #119 | — |
| Italy | — | #129 | #129 | — |
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| Denmark | — | #136 | #136 | — |
| South Africa | — | #157 | #157 | — |
| HK | — | #186 | #186 | — |
| IL | — | #191 | #191 | — |
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| AR | — | #195 | #195 | — |
| SA | — | #200 | #200 | — |
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21 placements across 18 markets.
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21 placements across 18 markets.