Think Bigger Real Estate

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Justin Stoddart So the big question is this: How do those of us in the real estate industry, with crazy amounts of ambition, how do we Think Bigger than the building of our own empires? How do we simultaneously seek success AND significance, income AND impact? My name is Justin Stoddart, and this is the Think Bigger Real Estate Show.Justin Stoddart Welcome back to the Think Bigger Real Estate Show. Today, my friends, we are going to get into the mind of a Navy Seal. I can't wait to introduce this gentleman to you and talk about what he brings to the marketplace, and what he's going to bring to you in helping you to live your best life. Before I go there. Let me remind you that inside of the Think Bigger Real Estate Group on Facebook we go deeper. We're gonna introduce William, and even give you access to him to where you can understand again, what he brings to the marketplace. That's where learning happens, when you engage not when you just listen. So we're glad you're here, but again, go over to the Think Bigger Real Estate Group on Facebook, where you will be able to become and implement the things that we talked about today. Justin Stoddart Today's guest His name is William Branum. He and I became fast friends as we have a shared mentor. He's doing some really cool things. But before we get to what he's doing to help people deal with stress in a more healthy, sustainable way, we're going to get into his mind the mind of a Navy SEAL. William Branum, thanks for coming on to the show today. William Branum Thank you for having me. I'm pretty stoked to be here. Justin Stoddart It's a total pleasure. I have to laugh, you're wearing a shirt that says "Get Naked" and you're sitting in a hotel room. Ladies and gentlemen, this is a family show. No worries about what's going to happen here. Before I go too much into that let me just state that William owns a company called Naked Warrior Recovery. It's It's It's a CBD company. He's on a mission to help veterans to reduce the suicide rate. And veterans can believe that people who who served our country at the highest level is 22 of them a day commit suicide, he's on a mission to reduce that even eliminate that entirely. So please stay tuned to the end of this out of respect to him, and what he's done for our country already and what he's doing, I want you to hear what he's got that again, can help people in a big way. So, William, let's talk a little bit about your background. Right. I think Navy SEALs is internationally known as some of the baddest dudes on the planet, right? You just don't mess with a Navy Seal. At what point did you decide I want to be I want to be one of those guys, I want to be a navy seal? William Branum So I always knew as a kid that I wanted to be a some sort of a commando, and also a ninja. I'm still working on the ninja piece. You know, some of my role models growing up where we're in not just talk about my age too much here but John Wayne, he was a Green Beret in Vietnam, at least in the movies. He was there was John Rambo, I think he was an Army Ranger. Chuck Norris was part of Delta Force and they rode dirt bikes, and they shot rockets off the front of those, I'm still trying to get some one of those. But I was you know, I was heavily heavy in the Boy Scouts. I always knew I wanted to be a commando. And, and I was trying to figure out what I wanted to do. I knew I wanted, I didn't want to be part of like the big army, like a big movement of a lot of people. I wanted to be part of a more specialized force. And so I was looking at like maybe Green Berets or Army Rangers or Marines because, you know, the commercials of Marines. When I was growing up, they were fighting dragons with swords and things like that. And I was like, those guys are cool. And they have pretty cool uniforms as well. Like, the one organization that I would never join is the Navy, because they have ugly uniforms. You know, there's a Navy base in the town I grew up in all those kids act like a bunch of idiots. And, you know, of course, when I joined the Navy, I was one of those kids that acted like an idiot so I, whatever, however, that worked out, but someone told me the you know, hey, I was at a on a Boy Scout adventure and from Meridian, Mississippi, and going to the national Jamboree, and I met a kid and he's like, I want to be a navy seal and I also want to fly F-14 Tomcats because the movie Top Gun had come out and and we also won like the first Gulf War really with airpower, you know, dropping bombs and pilots are really were really the heroes there. And so the my the summer between the 11th and 12th grade of high school, the Navy recruiter called me, and I had finally decided, yeah, I want to be a Navy Seal. I didn't really know what that meant. I didn't because there were no books. There were no movies, there was nothing like that when I was a kid. And there was no internet when I was a kid.William Branum And, you know, we he said, Hey, have you ever thought about joining the Navy? I was like, Well, actually, I was thinking about becoming a navy seal and fly f 14 tomcats. And he was like, Well, why don't you come down here and we'll talk about it. So I came down to the recruiting office, he showed me this super cheesy video of like, you know, these guys jumping out of a helicopter and getting it a little rubber boat and going to the beach and then you know, looking through binoculars at a building and then the next thing you see them like running out of the building and it like this really terrible GCI explosion behind them. And I'm like, Yes, that's what I want to be. I want to be the best of the best and so, and that was really all I knew about it, I knew that they were the best they because they jumped out of airplanes. They scuba dove, they, you know, ran around in the woods, they shot guns, they blew stuff up. And they were like an elite small unit. And so that's what I wanted to be, I wanted to be a part of something like that. So I joined the Navy to become a seal. I made some tactical errors, and it almost cost me becoming a CEO making those it was just really about like, choices that I made as far as like maybe jobs because there when I joined, you couldn't like join and say, I'm gonna be a seal and being a seal was your job, you had to become a gunner's mate or a bonus mate or a Quartermaster, whatever, those Navy jobs in order to advance in the Navy, and so that those jobs took me down a rabbit hole that put me on a ship for two years before I was able to, and that was actually almost didn't get to go, I had to ask the Chief of Naval Operations, who is the most senior guy in the Navy, there's only two people in the military more senior to him, which is the Secretary of Defense and the President of the United States. So this, this super senior guy, the guy that's in charge of the Navy, came to my ship in Yucosco, Japan, after everyone told me no, you can't go be a seal. And I raised my hand and I said, Hey, I joined the Navy to be a seal. I think I deserve a chance to go. And my you know, all these people won't let me go and he's like, you're right. You do deserve a chance to go, you'll be in the first class after your PRD which is planned rotational date. And so I went to BUDS and it took me a short 13 months to complete a six month block of training. So I don't remember the question, but I just started talking and here we are. Now I have graduated SEAL training. Justin Stoddart So I've read the book can't hurt me by David Goggins. I'm in the middle of Leif babban. And Jocko willings book, Extreme Ownership, they paint a pretty gnarly picture of Navy SEAL training. Is it that bad?William Branum Um, it's very difficult. It's very difficult. I got hurt several times, and almost got kicked out. Because, you kno...

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Episode 200! Oh, my goodness, this is a milestone. You know, it's one very small milestone along a very long road. I had to stop for just a minute and say thank you to some people, and also revisit the purpose of why I do this. So that's what we're gonna talk about today. Number one, I want to thank you, the audience for listening, I wouldn't be nearly as inspired to get up and do this day in and day out if I wasn't getting feedback, if I wasn't getting lots and lots of downloads, if I wasn't seeing response in people, that it was actually moving the needle for people. I would be less inclined to continue to commit myself so deeply to this cause. So thank you for listening. I take your attention very seriously, I realize that there are so many pulls on it. I want to be sure that there's always an extreme ROI on every minute, every second you spend with me, listening to the Think Bigger Real Estate Show. I want there to be a return to where you walk away thinking bigger, living bigger. Number two, I want to thank Old Republic Title. And Steve Yeager, who runs the Oregon operation and who have in essence, been a sponsor to the show. They have inspired and empowered me to take this show to another level, and I'm grateful for them and always will be grateful for them. So thank you. What an amazing brand and company I'm just so fortunate to be affiliated with them. They've provided me with the most amazing support.And next step I want to talk about why I do this. It's very important to me that when I wake up day in and day out, that I am energetic, about what I'm doing that I'm not oh TGIF I can't wait til the week's over, cause I'm so glad to be done working. No, I actually want to be excited to get up and work on Saturday because I love what I do. And this has allowed me to do that. And here's why; it's because my mission and this show are completely aligned, that is to wake you up to the potential inside of you. You've heard me say this before, the greatest untapped natural resource in the world that has the ability to do more good for mankind than any other is untapped human potential, period. Each and every one of us live in bondage to small thinking, that small thinking creates small actions. And those small actions create small impact. When we start to recognize the potential inside of us, we start to wake up, we start to realize, wow, I could actually think a lot bigger, act a lot bigger, do a lot bigger things. And impact a lot bigger. My mission again is to wake you up day in and day out when I do these episodes is to help wake you up to that. Number two, my objective is to inspire you to live in pursuit of that potential. So once you recognize the potential, it's to help you get up every day and and to be inspired to want to live in pursuit of that. But I realize that we're not going to reach that this life that we're not actually going to reach our potential, but to be living with a forward lean, to be living leaning forward, towards that, day in and day out. Aggressively pursuing that which is inside of us. Number three, it's to help you. So first, it's to help wake you up. Number two is to inspire you to where you want to live in pursuit of that. And number three, is to actually help you, to give you the tools to give you the conversations, the models, the strategies the tactics to where you actually can unlock these log jams that you have, these traffic jams that you have in your mind and in your business. That is a key passion of what I'm working to bring to the table primarily to the real estate industry although I know our audience is spreading far beyond that, and that there's a lot so much applicable stuff that we're sharing this industry that parlays so well into other industries. So those three things again, wake you up number one, two inspiring you to make you want to live in pursuit of that. Number three, help you live in pursuit of that. Then this is the grand finale. So that you can live, give and serve abundantly. Now what I mean by that is living abundantly. I know you and I both have certain things that we would love to do, but we are always having to run everything through a money filter, I would love to do that but I can't afford it. I would love to take my family there. No, not for me. It's not gonna happen. Now I don't want you to go into debt to do those things, but I want you to begin to say, not yet. Not yet, but I'm on the path to where we start to live abundantly, we can see it in our mind. We're creating it in our mind and then we're going to create it in real life. So live and give abundantly, you and I both have causes we're deeply passionate about. For me it's ending human trafficking, and there are so many amazing causes out there. It pains me when I see fundraisers, and I can only give a tiny bit. It pains me when there are people in this world that are living without clean water, for example and I can't contribute very much to that cause or as much as I would like. I want to be able to give abundantly I want you to be able to give abundantly. Thirdly, to serve abundantly, live, give and serve abundantly. To where if you get asked to go on a mission trip overseas you get the opportunity to go. If you get asked to spend the day at the food bank, you don't have to think, well, I can't do it because I have to work because I need the money. No, I want you to be able to serve abundantly. My vision is that millions of people across the globe are living, giving and serving abundantly, because of the ability that I had to wake them up. Because of the ability that I had to inspire them and help them to live in pursuit of their great potential. That's what this is all about. Yes, we share tips and tactics around the real estate industry, but at the core, at the foundational level of everything that I'm doing, my aim is to see you living, giving and serving abundantly, thinking bigger, recognizing and living in pursuit of your greatest potential.That's what I'm about. That's what this is about. And if you can get on board with that, then I would encourage you to keep listening and share this with other people. Because we are creating a movement of people who see it that way and want to be a part of that. Thank you for listening. I love you. I'm all in on you. I'm all in on you. And I'm excited to continue to help you to think bigger.

Justin Stoddart Hello and welcome back to the Think Bigger Real Estate Show. I'm your host Justin Stoddart, very excited about today's episode I have with me an individual who's going to unlock for you why maybe you're 2019 isn't quite what you've wanted it to be, maybe some of you are in that category, and how to be sure that 2020 is the year that you want it to be. There are some amazing parallels with 2020 meaning perfect clarity, perfect vision. It's a great year. It's a brand new decade. It's a great time for all of us to hit our stride and become the people that we know we can become. Today's guest is going to do exactly that. I want to invite everybody who's listening if you are not yet signed up to get the weekly summary emails you're totally missing out. This week is going to even feature Grant Cardone. Many of you saw that interview, and several other amazing people, including today's guest. So, please do yourself a favor, go to thinkbigger.realestate, sign up to get the weekly summary emails, they'll make your life a lot easier and will be sure that you don't miss out on some of the amazing people that I'm bringing on to the show like today's guest.Justin Stoddart Her name is Dr. Amanda Barrientez, her PhD is in sociology and she specializes in human behavior and performance. What a perfect topic and what it's perfect guest for us to be delving into this time of the year when we know that that's things that we're doing right now in October are going to pay in 2020. So welcome to the show, Amanda. I'm really, really excited to have you here. Amanda Barrientez Hey, thanks for having me. Justin Stoddart Yes, my pleasure. And out of Boulder, Colorado, where there are four inches of snow on the ground, folks.Amanda Barrientez Yeah, that's quite a surprise. Really.Justin Stoddart My wife is from North Dakota and she jokes about how all of her Halloween costumes always had to be made to fit over her snow suit. Amanda Barrientez Exactly. You pretty much decided your Halloween costume based on the weather and and yes, always always. It was like I have this great one year. I remember I was a cat and I had this amazing outfit that you and I had a one piece snowsuit. You can't see any of it.Justin Stoddart I'll bet it was cute before though and all of a sudden you look like the State Puffed Marshmallow Man.Justin Stoddart Let's get into this. Amanda I'm excited about this topic because again, now is the time for people to act not to think about acting, not to be planning for 2020 because the reality is the things that we're doing right now, again, are not going to pay until 202. Give us this help with mindset effect, if you wouldn't mind tell us the name of your company, and maybe how the branding and name of that company helps you on this very topic or helps your clients and your audiences on this very topic. Amanda Barrientez Yeah, yeah, so my the name of my company is NFA coaching which stands for No Fucking Around and you know, I love it because it captures a wide variety of mindset behaviors performance, but also the self care, you know. So I think about the way that we run our businesses from a very holistic perspective and it really starts with mindset, you know. Do you have a no fucking around approach to taking care of yourself, to building your business to treating it like a business, to your relationships to the way that you create your personal power, your sense of self confidence, how you set your goals, all of those things, I really, you know, I talked about it as the NFA attitude or the NFA mindset and it's really a radical responsibility approach to knowing that your outer world is a reflection of your inner world. And if you don't like what's going on in your outer world, you got to change yourself. And so it's this radical responsibility where you go. Okay, I'm going to step into a new game, I'm going to step into a new version of myself and become what I want to become because anything's possible. Justin Stoddart Isn't it interesting Amanda of how the tendency for all of us and I'm not pointing fingers at all, I mean, most of the fingers are pointing back at me is that when something doesn't quite go right, we are quick to look to our circumstances to other people. Why do we do that?Amanda Barrientez Because it's so much easier. You know? Um, well, there's multiple reasons. I mean, one reason is whenever we're blaming other people, it keeps us in a disempowered position, which in some ways, we think, Oh, awesome. If I blame them, then I don't really have to do anything. But the challenging part of that is if you blame them, you can't you don't have any power to change your reality. So the moment you start to shift the perspective and go, Okay, how can I learn lessons from this? How can I see my responsibility responsibility in it, then I have the power to choose. I have the power to get conscious and change my circumstances. So for me, I was on food stamps three years ago, and I shifted, you know, broken relationships on food stamps on the floor crying and I had this really epiphany moment where I was sitting there going, I'm the center of my reality, and I'm the one that needs to change and so I started doing everything I possibly could to change myself. And I really, I mean, people will talk to me all the time about how serious I am about about personal development. And I'm like, well, here's the deal. If you are empowered in yourself, you can create anything you want in your life or business. And I really started to see that happen for myself. And so it just, you know, NFA fits me so well.Justin Stoddart You know, I love how you said that because it is interesting that it feels good for the moment, right? We're comfortable in the moment to say what market was really off this year, right? Or my teammates really let me down my company let me down like for a moment where it is in fact, I was sitting in a class yesterday and we actually discussed this topic about how it's comfortable in the moment boy that ends up happening as it transpires into discomfort down the road because we stay in that same spot. Yeah. If we can say get really uncomfortable and say, my, my circumstances are 100% a result of my actions and my choices. then guess what? It's very uncomfortable. Not very moment. Yeah, we can then empower ourselves, like you said, to make the changes to where we can get comfortable later on. Yeah, you know what you're highlighting. So we're animals basically. And we live by the pleasure pain principle. And it's based on survival. We want to avoid threat in the current moment. And and we're always tracking for threat and we're tracking for survival. And the interesting thing is, we don't have to do that when we step into our executive functioning, we can go okay, I can, I can tolerate pain in the moment so that I can have pleasure in the long run. But most of us are very short sighted. And if we don't train our brain that way, we actually will then want to blame other people not take responsibility, be comfortable in the moment. But you'll notice all great leaders, all great thinkers, all great business owners, people who are really balanced in their life, they're able to offset pleasure in the moment and go, Okay, I can, I can struggle through this. I can do the work right now. Because I see in the future, I'm going to have a better outcome. Voice brilliant and I'm again, I'm reminding you whatJustin Stoddart You're saying is resonating with some of the greats that I've actually listened to this week. I mean, obviously, Grant Cardone 10X is all about that, right? Like the 10X Rule, like you own it, buddy. Yesterday, I sat through a class here locally that h...

Hey, welcome back to the Think Bigger Real Estate Show. I am your host, Justin Stoddart and am very excited about today's episode. It's a topic that I'm passionate about. And you as a high performing real estate agent are, I'm sure passionate about solving the problem that we're going to lay out there, which is why is it oftentimes that we have such great intentions, and followed by good actions, that then at some point, they fall off, right, and we, we stopped doing those things that get us to where we want to go. That's what we're going to be talking about today. I have an expert with me today. Let me introduce her here in just a second. But before that, I just want to remind everybody that if you go to the website, think bigger real estate, you can sign up to get a weekly summary with highlights and action steps on how to implement the stuff that we're talking about here today. It's not good enough just to listen, you will improve your life by listening, but you'll improve it exponentially as you start to actually apply these things and get some accountability around it. We're going to talk about that as well. So let me introduce today's guest. Tanja, dealer attended dealer is a licensed broker here in state, Oregon. She's at Keller Williams, realty professionals and is a true professional. She's just got great energy just as a super person. She's been selling real estate for 12 years. And she really has become in that process, a student of personal development, as many of us are. And she started to learn some things about about her journey about her path, what was working what wasn't, and started to tweak some things. And as a result, people started to come to her and ask her how do you do that? And as a result, she now coaches other people, and helping them unlock kind of that same question that we have is why don't I always do the things that I know I should do to get the results that I want? So Tanya, thank you so much for being on the show today. I appreciate you being a big thinker. And just in case people are wondering, right this TV behind me here I have this specially made for today's episode that stands for tenure dealer.Hi, I'm so excited to be here today. And I know last time I was at your office, I had to get a photo there because I love your message. And then obviously, it's my initials. Sohere's that actually does not change every episode that actually stands for things. But since Danny is a big thinker, it it's very much coincides with the episode today. So So Tony, let's talk a little bit about this problem. I get a little bit maybe for you describe kind of what that looks like for you where you've got really good aspirations, intentions, even good habits. And sometimes they go away. Why is that? What, like, tell us more about your experience?Yeah, no, totally. Um, what I noticed is that I was always coming up with big ideas and big goals. And I get super excited about it, when I sit down and write it all out and create this huge plan that I was going to do. And when I got started, I was super excited, I followed it did it all. And then I started to like, each day I wasn't following through, and then I just eventually just nothing, you know, happened. So what I decided to do was to shorten my time. So a lot of times people are like it takes, for instance, with Keller Williams takes 66 days to create a new habit, you're using all these different timeframes. And I learned that I could focus if I did something for 30 days, I could commit 100% go all in, if all I thought about was 30 days, and nothing else. And that's that's that was like, when I started accomplishing everything was just by doing 30 days at a time. You know, it's interesting as I think about kind of my own path. And it's probably very similar to yours, in the sense that all have all create these beautiful plans. And I think planning can be fun, right? Because like we can create a perfect plan. And there's no mess ups to it. And it's like, this is exactly what life is going to look like. And we get going. And sometimes I think we get addicted to the planning phase, because it's easier. There's rejection, and we don't, right, it's just this kind of like we're in this dream casting mode of designing a perfect life, which I think is essential for anybody that wants to think big right? You actually have to do that. The next step though, is what's that good? You have to visualize? For sure, yeah, you have to write the challenges once you start to implement. If you always just go back to the planning phase without the action phase. And I would even say to the action phase, for a consistent enough period of time you actually get results. There involves the breakdown. And what I hear you saying Tanja, is that the challenge is that some of those time periods are too long for our attention span is what you found for you personally,for me personally. And what I found is that, for me personally, by shortening it, and just having that narrow focus on that shorter time period, one, I actually get more done, because I think it'll take us as long to do something as we allow it. So if we allow ourselves only a shorter period of time, then we're going to find a way to accomplish that in a shorter period of time. And then also, you're starting to see results, which keeps you motivated. Because daily, every day you're accomplishing something new, even if it's just a baby step each day, by the end of that 30 days, you've created something super big, just by those baby steps every single day.You know, it is interesting that, you know, you might say, Well, you can't certainly that the scientific reality is that it may take 66 days, on average, to create a habit, what I hear you saying is, okay, like we're not discounting that. Tony, focuses on 66 days, it gets easy to jump off the horse, right? Like how many milestone of being like I'm going to get to 3030 is I can do 30, I can only think for 30 days, hopefully, at that point that will carry you through to be like, let's do another 30. And let's do another six. And before you know you're there,exactly, yeah. I learned on my program three separate times. So I'll do 30 days. And then I'll give myself basically like maybe a week off. And during that week, I'll kind of look at what I've accomplished, what I still need to accomplish. And then I'll set new tasks and new goals for the next 30 days. And so I kind of get a little bit of time off. So it's kind of like a refresher, you're like, Okay, I don't have to be so focused. And then you get to the planning stage, which everybody loves the planning stage, like you were talking about. It's the fun part. And then you start creating again, which is a exciting.Awesome, so you do like these kind of 30 day sprints followed by a bit of kind of like a victory lap right? Like I did, yes.Yeah, you know, I've heard it said that. Um, it's important when you're a high achiever that you need to let your test your chest hit the tape. Right yeah. And and and I think for those of us that study kind of energy and energy management, it's been said that you know, that life is a series of short Sprint's for high achievers, life is a series of short, Sprint's it's, it's not a marathon, maybe in length and duration it is, but those that achieve the highest levels actually break it down into the shorter sprints, like I hear you talking about, right? Yes, it's the tape. I did 30 days, walk a lap, you ready? Like getting the in the blocks for the next sprint?Exactly. That's exactly. And I found it works amazing. Like it's, it's, I've accomplished so much in that short period of time, each time I've done it. And so I'm starting another 30 days, September 1 through September 30.But now, you've gotten to the point. Now, in fact, let me ask this question. Now. Is this been both business as well as personal? I mean, this has ...

Justin Stoddart Hey, welcome back to the Think Bigger Real Estate Show. I'm your host Justin Stoddart fired up about today's episode. We have an absolute superstar on the show with us today, who's going to help us navigate this question. Obviously, we know that the industry has a number of disruptors circling, we know that real estate agents have more of a need today to be on their A game serving the customer at the highest level possible. And today's guest, Jason Abrams, he's a Keller Williams agent out of Michigan, although he owns teams all over the place. He's been selling homes for 20 years, right out of high school stepped right into his real estate name badge. He's a broker-owner, a team owner, he was actually on HGTV, if some of you remember this show, it was HGTV, it was "Scoring the Deal" in which he would facilitate the purchase of beautiful homes by sports stars. Sounds like a cool show. I haven't seen it actually. But you've got me super interested to go back and findJason Abrams the only people that want my mom watched it regularly.Justin Stoddart It was with three seasons. I don't buy that, Jason.Jason Abrams Just you and $13 million. Man. That's all.Justin Stoddart the truth. There's the truth. In addition, Jason is the partner in metrics coaching and training, which we're going to talk a little bit about as well. So with that, Jason, thank you for coming on the show today. It's a total pleasure to have you here.Jason Abrams It's an honor. Thanks for having me.Justin Stoddart Yeah, this guy is a big thinker. He's actually spending a fair amount of time right now in Austin, helping to develop technology that serves the customer and agent at the highest level. So, Jason, let's get into this. We have, as we all know, a very changing, disrupting real estate landscape. What can we expect before I do that? Because we'll get into business and we won't stop. I know. Kind of that's my nature. So let's talk about stuff that matters a little bit more than business right now. I know you're a dad, I'm a dad. And that is probably the reason why we're deeply invested in the real estate industry is to provide a better life for people. Are people right that matter? Most? I mean, what's your favorite part about being a dad, Jason?Jason Abrams yes to... Everyone always asks about the technology and the real estate business off the bat, they very rarely go to What's your favorite part about being a parent? And I'll tell you, it's challenging, no question about it. But I think that it gives you this idea of this immersive experience, which I think is unique to our industry. And that residential real estate is really a contact sport. And it's an all-time game, meaning we don't start our day at nine and end our day at five and then go home and have the luxury most of us to just specifically that focused on the family. And I think what it does, we bring our customer lives into our own we bring our business lives into our personal lives, in our personal lives in your business life. This idea of immersion, I think, is one that as we move forward, you're going to see more education go to which just, I'm not just going to school from 7 am to 2:45 pm. To learn, I'm going to learn in every aspect of my life. And the most important thing to learn is how to learn, not whether I get the right answer. But what was the process that I took to get there? For me watching a six come to terms with how he's going to solve life's challenges, which to him see massive, like, how do I open this applesauce. And it's these constant reminders that the journey that we're all on... does it end? It simply changes form. And I think about that a lot.Justin Stoddart And that's powerful. It's almost as if like, we'd practice that question before. And folks, we did not tell people that I'm in a hurry. So I love what you said there. Jason reminds me of the university president where I first went to school, it was a two year school, he was a new president. He turned out to be a very influential person in the world as well as in my life. And he told a group of business students in their freshman year because like the question was asked, what should I focus on education, he said, here's the reality is that there are two things that you need to walk away from with your education. And neither one of those is a degree like that's, that's like, like second-third tier that doesn't matter as much. Here the things you need to learn is, like number one, you need to gain a passion and a love for learning. And secondly, you need to learn how to learn, he said those two things will carry you further than any degree ever will. In fact, newsflash, the stuff that you're learning here at school, a lot of it's going to be obsolete by the time you get into the workforce. So you better love to learn and you better know how to learn. Because without that, it's, you know, you're going to be behind really, really quickly. So I love what you said about that I happen to be a father as well. And I think bigger, I've got six kids, little crazy.Jason Abrams You do think big.Justin Stoddart I do, I do with all areas of life, we, I have a saint for a wife, st slash superhero. Fact, currently, she's on the road with six kids driving them all to North Dakota, and you know what it's like, up north, you're a northern guy. And so things a little quieter in my house, eerily quiet. But I love what you said about this, this passion for learning and watching kids learn that's really, really profound.Jason Abrams I just don't think they perceive it the way I think that we all sit around and try to force ourselves to do activities that we don't like, thinking that those activities are mandated stops along the path of success. I think kids are living this immersive experience differently than we are and that it's organic for them. And I'm kind of looking back at my life at different times and asking when I decided mentally to make that shift and why I did it. And trying to get back to the organic part of learning.Justin Stoddart Just that pure learning at its core, like just out of curiosity right now, because someone's telling you I have to.Jason Abrams curiosity and necessity, like a lot of us know, we need to learn new things. But we don't because the process to do it is one that we find challenging, and I and I get it we usually leave the challenging things for last or sometimes not at all. Yeah, I think the question is flawed, which is how do I force myself to do things I don't want to do whether that's going to the gym every day or read a book every we have these things? And we say, Well, how do I make that habit? I think a better question. You ask the wrong question. You always get the wrong answer. The question that I like is how do I love my life and accomplish blank. And when you start thinking in that framework, all of a sudden, you're forced to take activities you wouldn't want to do but then make it so you would enjoy it. Tell you what, if you enjoyed the things that you shouldn't be doing, you should do more of the wrong things. Find a way to enjoy the stuff that you want to bring into your life like kids, do. I tell you what, there's no wayJustin Stoddart how to get the life you want. Or sorry, how to get what you want and love it. Those are the two.Jason Abrams How do I love my life and do blank?Justin Stoddart That's awesome stuff, man. Let's parlay into business as that kind of the path that I was headed down, obviously very changing real estate landscape. ...

Justin Stoddart 0:00 Welcome to Think Bigger Real Estate show. I'm your host Justin Stoddart, very excited today to have with me two very close friends, guys, they look to as mentors, leaders, and bosses. These guys are fantastic.Steve Yeager 0:13 I like the laugh.Justin Stoddart 0:14 They are the leaders of Old Republic Title here in Oregon. And they have built an amazing company culture. And if you're a real estate agent and desire to scale your business, at some point, you're gonna add somebody, and you're gonna add somebody else, potentially add somebody else, and it's going to be requisite for you. If you want to keep good talent and attract good talent, then you're going to need to build the company culture, place where people want to work a place where people don't just get everything they want, but they get what they need. So we just had a great branch meeting, and I thought it'd be appropriate to have a lively conversation with you guys that make me laugh and inspire me about how to have a great company culture. So, Ryan, you mentioned something in the meeting, that gives people perspective, that it's not that their perspective isn't always right, would you share what that is?Ryan Wood 0:58 Well, it's actually a line that you've used, so we'll steal it from him. But I basically, it's, when you're, and I can say this because I step up on my soapbox a lot, I get passionate about things. And I start, you know, putting my point of view out there and telling everybody, you know, what I feel is right. And, you know, Steve, made a really great point in the meeting, basically talking about the fact that all of us need to when we're in that position, also sit there and say, according to me, so basically do a little little bit of self reflection, which can go a long ways. And, you know, say, okay, am I right? Or am I doing the right thing? It's not all just about making you right, it's about making sure you're doing the right thing.Justin Stoddart 1:41 Great stuff, Steve, any thoughts on that?Steve Yeager 1:44 you know, Ryan, I have teased quite a bit, we have a mission statement on the wall, but taking the mission statement down and just putting the word communication, you know, seems like anything in life, whether we're going out or meeting with clients were handling internal issues when you're trying to grow anything, communications, the deal, right? People want to have to transparency and they want to have people that there's a level of respect that goes along with communicating with people. But I think it's, you know, if you take that a step further in it, it really is, you know, I might have this really strong opinion on something, but it's according to me, it's according to, you know, what my background is, what my thoughts are, what my reality is, what my perception is, it doesn't necessarily mean the people I'm talking with disagree with what I'm saying. But they've had an entire life where they have, they have been trained to think a different way doesn't mean the wrong way, just a different way. And being able to step back and actually think about that, when you're having a conversation with someone, it goes a long way with respecting them. And it goes back to another thing we're talking about today with ego. Right? I think, you know, sometimes as guys, we struggle a little bit because we like to lead with ego, you know that the puffed out chest. And I think it's super important, you know when we're having those conversations when we are trying to either coach train, teach, or just have a conversation with somebody that we are really listening, and we're really hearing it from their point of view.Justin Stoddart 2:58 Great stuff. Iscrewed up a little bit, guys. And maybe the audio won't be as good.Steve Yeager 3:01 A little concerned that I'm not standing on books next to Ryan, I'm concerned about that.Justin Stoddart 3:05 And one thing that I actually had a thought this morning, that oftentimes building great company culture isn't always about just encouraging people. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's about telling them, Hey, I believe in you, you can do more. You've got untapped potential. You're amazing. I support you. Sometimes just having a fierce conversation with people, right? Sometimes it's telling them like, hey, what you did there was not the right thing to do for the group for the company for the whole? How have you guys come? Because you get to have both conversations, right? You get to see I believe in you, you're amazing doing a great job. And at times, it's like, Hey, don't do that, again, how have you kind of come to grips with being able to have those fierce conversations, without people taking it personally or without it being super heavy on you.Ryan Wood 3:47 It's not easy. There's, there's no easy way about it, you're dealing with people, you're not interested in smashing people's opinions or, or making them feel bad about themselves. At the same time, you do have to think of the whole and you have to think and the whole doesn't just include your self that includes everybody else's in that environment. And I, you know, oftentimes will think of ego as everybody goes overboard. So you sit there and go, Oh, well, you know, everything about me is really what matters. And I think that it's hard not to it's I think there's a certain part of it. That's human nature. But I think that on the flip side of that it's really important to, again, do what's right, not necessarily be right. And so it's having that conversation to say this isn't about what you think of me or what I think of you. This isn't about, you know, what, you know, someone else might be involved with you, but it's more about what you're doing. Is it right, or is it wrong? And making that choice? Justin Stoddart 4:43 Steve, any additional thoughts on that of how you have those tough conversations when they're not always fun? Right?Steve Yeager 4:47 Yeah, you know, I think as a leader, a lot of times we ask questions that we already know the answer to or we think we know the answer to, we're looking to see how somebody responds. And I think it's going into each one of those conversations where it's a good conversation, a bad conversation, and we can be the good side to ham offering you a promotion, and here's, you know, your new your new salary to, hey, if we can't, you know, fix what this what's going on here. We might have to say goodbye to each other. You need to go in there with an outcome in mind or a goal in mind for the conversation. You know, a leader has thought more about it. They're not leaders aren't reactive, right? leaders are proactive, and leaders are, have already thought, hey, if I have this conversation that goes this direction, this may happen. If I have this conversation, it goes this direction. This may happen before and it helps you guide because you really are trying to help shape an outcome, whether it's a fierce conversation or not, you know,Justin Stoddart 5:36 you obviously lead real estate offices for the better part of 10 years. So you saw real estate agents hire people, right? And they probably times struggled because they didn't, weren't willing to have to communicate well, with somebody, they just said, Hey, I'm gonna hire you. Your job is to be my assistant. Yeah. Follow me around and pick up this, like, pick up the details. Fix me, right. Yeah. What advice would you give to a real estate agent that's hiring somebody when it comes to communicating a lot of principles you've already talked about? But is there something else that you saw work really well with people that hired and kept and retained great talent to th...