þ thorns þ

This episode is a conversation between jee chan, Jelena Golubović and Bilawa Ade Respati. This episode is a conversation between jee chan, jelena golubovic, and Bilawa Ade Respati. jee is an artist in the first cohort of the Rose Choreographic School, whose practice often examines the potential of the displaced body, driven by their research concerning ancestral epistemologies and oral histories. jelena works across music, visual arts, and conceptual practice, exploring the intersections of language, society, and the sensorial. Bilawa is a musician and performing artist whose current artistic interest lies in the dialectic between tradition and innovation, as well as the revaluation of traditional values in contemporary life.In this episode of þ thorns þ, recorded in Berlin, you'll hear an insight into the questions, tensions, and forces that shape their collaborative project titled laut jerebu (the sea where land is out of sight). Drawing upon their respective lived experiences across Southeast Asia and Southeast Europe, they discuss issues surrounding the choreographies of language, mapping, nationhood, and diaspora in relation to the construction of plural and post-colonial identities.To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is a conversation with Black Quantum Futurism, an interdisciplinary practice founded by Rasheedah Phillips and Camae Ayewa (Moor Mother). Their work brings together quantum physics with Afrodiasporic understandings of time, space, ritual, text, and sound, creating frameworks for counter-histories and alternative futures. Rasheedah is a writer, artist, and housing advocate whose work explores temporalities and community futurisms through a Black futurist lens. Camae, also known as Moor Mother, is a musician, poet, and visual artist whose practice moves across sound, performance, and collaboration.Working with Camae and Rasheedah has been deeply formative for Mine Kaplangı, the curator of this episode. Their work shaped the programme co-curated at VSSL Studio, Entanglements of the Apocalypse, where they recently presented their solo exhibition Time Is On Our Side. This episode is an extension of that collaboration, and part of the exhibition’s public programme. In this conversation, they generously take us on a journey through their practice—how they met, how their collaboration began, and what has unfolded between then, now, and beyond. They share their thinking on time, black holes, and nonlinear temporalities, offering ways of understanding the apocalypse not as an ending, but as a site of transformation, delay, and return.A full transcript of this episode and links to further resources, including Black Quantum Futurism’s work and writings, can be found on our website.This episode is part of a mini-series, Choreographing the Apocalypse, which is guest curated by Mine Kaplangı, a Folkestone-based curator and art mediator from Istanbul. It forms part of their ongoing research into queer and trans imaginaries of the apocalypse(s). They will be inviting artists, thinkers, and somatic practitioners to explore apocalyptic thinking through speculative world-building and radically intimate frameworks. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This forms part of a mini-series, Dreaming Communities, curated by performing arts researcher, Victoria Pérez Royo. She defines the series as "a group of people having conversations around what we call the dreaming substance, meaning all the work developed around images that do not appear on a material surface outside of the body".This episode is a conversation between artist María Jerez and choreographer Catalina Insignares. They discuss the fluidity of their artistic practices and their work with the body and identity. The concept of 'wonder' is explored in relation to their processes, and they talk about how it can act to counter cynicism and escape the restrictions of conventional knowledge. To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website. You can read more about Victoria's curation on our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is a conversation between performing arts researcher, Victoria Pérez Royo, choreographer and artist Andrea Božić, and visual artist Julia Willms. Andrea and Julia have collaborated since 2003 making in-disciplinary works that re-organise space, attention and perception; exploring how spectatorship, imagination and spectacle are intertwined and embodied.The conversation was recorded in a studio in Amsterdam and together, they explore the nature and practice of capturing and interpreting dreams, they discuss research on dreams, dream logic, and the immersive virtual environments that dreams create.To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website.This episode is part of a mini-series, Dreaming Communities, curated by performing arts researcher, Victoria Pérez Royo. She defines the series as "a group of people having conversations around what we call the dreaming substance, meaning all the work developed around images that do not appear on a material surface outside of the body." You can read more about Victoria's curation on our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is a conversation between Rohan Ayinde and Suley, both based in London. Rohan is part of the first cohort of the Rose Choreographic School, and he is an anadisciplinary artist and poet. Suley is a playwright, painter, lawyer and lecturer who uses world building as a radical tool of investigation. This conversation was recorded in a studio in London and it was the first meeting between these two artists. They reflect on what world building signifies within their practices, articulating how this concept informs their individual research and methodologies. Together, they examine the convergence of their practices, and how speculative fiction, poetry, collectivity and black holes can function as a lens for understanding and imagining alternative futures. This episode is part of a new series,Choreographing the Apocalypse, which is guest curated by Mine Kaplangı, a Folkestone-based curator and art mediator from Istanbul. It forms part of their ongoing research into queer and trans imaginaries of the apocalypse(s). They will be inviting artists, thinkers, and somatic practitioners to explore apocalyptic thinking through speculative world-building and radically intimate frameworks.To find a full transcript of this episode, and resources mentioned, visit our website. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is a conversation between dancers Kerem Gelebek and Soa Ratsifandrihana. Soa is a Franco-Malagasy dancer and choreographer based in Brussels. And Kerem is from Turkey and based in Paris, France. We’ll hear them discuss how they use the term interpreter in place of that of choreographer or dancer, and how their work integrates personal and cultural archives. They also speak about the challenges of creating work that incorporates their heritage without exoticizing it. You can read a full transcript of this episode and links to resources mentioned here.This episode is a collaboration with Dance Reflections by Van Cleef & Arpels. This initiative supports choreographic heritage, nurtures contemporary creation and engages the widest possible audience in conversations about dance. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is a conversation between Helle Siljeholm and Simone Kenyon. Helle is a choreographer and visual artist based in Oslo, and Simone is a UK based artist, dancer and producer. This was a first meeting between the two artists, and they excitedly shared their practices with each other, finding a joint interest in making work in relation to mountains. Visit Rose Choreographic School Website for the full transcript, details of their submitted sounds and other resources mentioned in the episode.This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Website Rose Choreographic School Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is a conversation between Edgar Schmitz and Behzad Khosravi Noori. Edgar works on and through dispersed materialities of the choreographic, and distributed forms of (in-)animacy. He is the founder of the CHOREOGRAPHIC and ANIMATE ASSEMBLY research clusters and, director of the Art Research Programme at Goldsmiths, University of London. Behzad is an artist, writer, educator, playground builder, and necromancer. His research-based practice includes films and installations as well as archival studies. He is a professor in practice at Habib University in Karachi. This conversation was recorded in a studio in central London. Edgar and Behzad reflect on their joint interest in the art of necromancy as a metaphorical and methodological tool to reinterpret history. They discuss Behzad’s films on this topic and explore themes like the political distribution of the sensible, decolonisation, the incompleteness of history, and the labour involved in memorialising the past. This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Website Rose Choreographic School Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is a conversation between Leo Boix and Pablo Bronstein, recorded in their home in East London. Leo is a poet, translator and teacher, writing from multiple identities on the complexities of creative and cultural translations. Pablo is an artist whose work spans prints and drawings to choreography and performance. His focus is on style, spatial politics and queerness. In this episode, Leo and Pablo talk about their personal and professional relationship and how their practices influence each other.This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Website Rose Choreographic School Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode, Mette and Chrysa talk about their identities as performers and choreographers. They also talk about translation in their practices, and the politics of authorship in choreography and dance. Mette is a choreographer and performer, and she co-founded the publishing house Varamo Press. Much of Mette's work focuses on choreography as writing. Chrysa Parkinson is a dancer and professor of dance at Stockholm University of the Arts, and her current research project is titled Authorship, Ownership and Control Dancer's Roles and Materials.The transcript and bibliography for this episode can be found on the Rose Choreographic School Website This series is produced and edited by Hester Cant.The series is co-curated by Emma McCormick-Goodhart and Martin Hargreaves, with concept and direction by Martin Hargreaves and Izzy Galbraith.Rose Choreographic School Instagram Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.