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A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence" by Donald Hoffman and Chetan Prakash
Apr 11, 2026
1h 30m 10s
Discussion: Lisa Maroski, Michael Levin, Richard Watson
Apr 10, 2026
58m 35s
Discussion: Richard Watson, Alexey Tolchinsky, Mark Solms, Michael Levin, and Karl Friston
Apr 9, 2026
58m 38s
Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 1: "Some thoughts on the mind as material"
Apr 3, 2026
1h 00m 21s
Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 2: neuroscience, memory transfer, aging of cognition, and more
Apr 3, 2026
55m 37s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 4/11/26 |  A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence" by Donald Hoffman and Chetan Prakash✨ | collective intelligencespace-time physics+2 | Donald HoffmanChetan Prakash+2 | A Multiscale Logic of Collective Intelligence | — | recursive trace logiccausal emergence+1 | — | 1h 30m 10s | |
| 4/10/26 |  Discussion: Lisa Maroski, Michael Levin, Richard Watson✨ | languagethinking+2 | Lisa MaroskiRichard Watson | — | — | recursionbiological agency+2 | — | 58m 35s | |
| 4/9/26 |  Discussion: Richard Watson, Alexey Tolchinsky, Mark Solms, Michael Levin, and Karl Friston✨ | memoryforgetting+3 | Richard WatsonAlexey Tolchinsky+2 | The Levin Lab | — | induced forgettingunconventional cognition+3 | — | 58m 38s | |
| 4/3/26 |  Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 1: "Some thoughts on the mind as material"✨ | neurosciencefree will+2 | Nicolas Rouleau | neural tissue engineeringbrain organoids+9 | RouleauKansala+5 | mindsynthetic biological intelligence+2 | — | 1h 00m 21s | |
| 4/3/26 |  Conversation with Nic Rouleau, part 2: neuroscience, memory transfer, aging of cognition, and more✨ | neurosciencememory transfer+6 | Nic Rouleau | CenterSellar, E.P.+6 | RouleauKansala+5 | memoryPlaydoh+6 | — | 55m 37s | |
| 3/24/26 |  Conversation 2 with Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, and Karen Quigley✨ | Relational Realismallostasis+11 | Lisa BarrettBen Lyons+1 | Apple | — | emotionscience+2 | — | 59m 19s | |
| 3/17/26 |  Cancer: mitochondria and metabolism - a discussion with Thomas Seyfried and his group✨ | cancermitochondria+5 | Thomas SeyfriedDerek Lee+2 | — | — | metabolic nature of cancermitochondrial theory+3 | — | 1h 23m 09s | |
| 3/5/26 |  "On Biological and Artificial Consciousness" by Borjan Milinkovic and Jaan Aru✨ | biological consciousnessartificial consciousness+2 | Borjan MilinkovicJaan Aru | On Biological and Artificial ConsciousnessOn Biological and Artificial Consciousness: a case for biological computationalism | — | computational metaphorneural computation+1 | — | 53m 46s | |
| 2/5/26 |  Platonic Space discussion 3✨ | Platonic formsXenobots+8 | — | — | — | Platonic Space Hypothesisevolution+2 | — | 1h 44m 24s | |
| 2/4/26 |  Conversation with Darren Iammarino #1✨ | Platonic Space modelopen problems+13 | Darren Iammarino | Apple | Platonic Space | scienceeducation+2 | — | 54m 47s | |
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| 1/30/26 |  "The Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis" by Michael Levin | This is a ~57 minute talk titled "The Bioelectric Interface to the Collective Intelligence of Morphogenesis: development, regeneration, cancer, and beyond" which I gave at a UCSF seminar for an audience of graduate students and post-docs in Biophysics, Bioinformatics, and Chemical Biology. I covered the role of bioelectricity as cognitive glue underlying high-level adaptive plasticity in living tissue, recent progress in exploiting that interface, and new developments in research platforms for this field. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Framing bioelectricity's role (09:28) Morphogenesis as goal-directed (22:45) Bioelectric control of form (35:10) Rewriting anatomical set points (43:55) Cancer and aging bioelectricity (49:36) AI, anthrobots, and outlook PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 58m 10s | ||||||
| 1/21/26 |  Discussion #1 at the Platonic Space Symposium | This is a ~1 hour 40 minute discussion among contributors to the Platonic Space Hypothesis (https://thoughtforms.life/symposium-on-the-platonic-space/) CHAPTERS: (00:00) Math, identity and realms (16:08) Convergence, abstraction and attractors (34:05) Attractors, stress and observers (41:29) Realms, impossibility and simulation (51:40) Simulation, explanation and understanding (01:04:39) Mind everywhere and agency (01:19:19) Content, communication and creativity (01:30:42) Boundaries, scale and space PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 1h 41m 13s | ||||||
| 1/18/26 |  Conversation 1 with Mijail Serruya, Alessandro Napoli, and Wesley Clawson | This is a ~1 hour conversation with (including a short talk by) Mijail Serruya (https://research.jefferson.edu/labs/researcher/serruya-research.html), Alessandro Napoli (https://www.linkedin.com/in/alessandro-napoli-8383a164/), and Wes Clawson (https://allencenter.tufts.edu/wesley-clawson-staff-scientist/). We talk about brain-body-machine interfaces, the clinical aspects and the deeper conceptual connections. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introductions and BCI vision (16:32) Platypus-inspired brain augmentation (24:28) Plasticity, aging, and models (39:37) Self-organizing neural interfaces (49:58) Hypnosis, regeneration, and BCIs PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 58m 48s | ||||||
| 1/17/26 |  Conversation 1 w/ Lisa Barrett, Ben Lyons, Eli Sennesh, Jordan Theriault-Brown, and Karen Quigley | This is a discussion with with Lisa Feldman Barrett (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=WF5c0_8AAAAJ&hl=en), Benjamin Lyons (https://interestingessays.substack.com/), Eli Sennesh (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=3z4ALYgAAAAJ), Jordan Theriault-Brown (http://www.jordan-theriault.com/), and Karen Quigley (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=aZ3qhVUAAAAJ&hl=en) about topics related to allostasis and top-down control across cognitive science and developmental biology. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Framing interdisciplinary synthesis (03:18) Bioelectric collective intelligence (16:00) Constraints versus bioelectric memory (20:06) Neurodevelopment and allostasis (27:10) Plasticity and dirty genomes (35:59) Relational structure and constraints (40:24) Agency across biological scales (45:04) Goal-like molecular networks (48:49) Allostasis and control hierarchies PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 55m 58s | ||||||
| 1/15/26 |  "Evolution and Intelligence: inversion and a positive feedback spiral" by Michael Levin | This is a ~50 minute video on evolution from the perspective of diverse intelligence. I discuss 3 main things: the nature of the mapping between genotype and phenotype (an intelligent, problem-solving process that interprets genomic prompts, not simply a complex mechanical mapping), the implications for evolution of operating over such a multi-scale agential material, and a few recent findings about the origin of the intelligence spiral taking place before differential replication dynamics kick in. Editing by https://x.com/DNAMediaEditing CHAPTERS: (00:00) Framing evolution and intelligence (06:26) Morphogenesis as collective intelligence (12:06) Regeneration and downward causation (16:10) Bioelectric patterning and memory (21:05) Reprogrammable adaptive anatomies (26:06) Interpretation, plasticity and evolution (31:58) Competent matter and evolvability (35:45) Novel beings and emergence (41:54) Prebiotic learning and agency (46:43) Mind beyond life PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 49m 42s | ||||||
| 12/11/25 |  “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine” | This is a ~46 minute talk by Michael Levin titled “The Unreasonable Effectiveness of the Behavioral Sciences in Developmental Biology and Biomedicine” given at a developmental biology/bioengineering symposium, explaining the connections between the cognitive/behavioral sciences and the study of morphogenesis, from the lens of our framework and new technology. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Behavioral Science Foundations (05:57) Agential Cells And Morphospace (10:47) Goal Directed Regeneration Examples (18:16) Bioelectric Pattern Memories (23:32) Exploring Morphological Plasticity (31:54) Learning Regeneration And Cancer (36:10) Novel Bioengineered Living Machines (41:22) Future Minds And Ethics PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 46m 35s | ||||||
| 12/10/25 |  Discussion #1 with Katrina Schleisman and David Burke | This is a ~54 minute conversation with Katrina Schleisman (https://www.galois.com/team/katrina-schleisman) and David Burke (https://www.galois.com/team/david-burke) about issues related to memory, Platonism, diverse intelligence, and similar topics. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Paper comments and impetus (01:38) Math-physics causal dualism (06:19) Unreasonable effectiveness and foundations (12:54) Active Platonic patterns learning (19:36) Verbs, affordances, pattern agency (29:04) Math gifts before evolution (35:43) Cognition, life, and idealism (43:21) Hidden messages and memory (47:42) Resonant patterns, chance, synchronicity PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 54m 56s | ||||||
| 12/1/25 |  Conversation with David Resnik 1 | This is a ~52 minute conversation with philosopher David Resnik (https://www.niehs.nih.gov/research/resources/bioethics/bioethicist) about the Platonic Space model and our plan for a new paper about a different variant of it than what I've been writing so far. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Morphogenesis and latent space (15:19) Platonism's scientific utility (27:06) Explanation, models, morphospace (36:51) Models, journals, writing (43:33) Mathematical patterns in evolution PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 52m 40s | ||||||
| 11/30/25 |  Discussion #1 with Elan Barenholtz | This is a ~57 minute discussion with Elan Barenholtz (https://mpcrlab.com/people/Elan-Barenholtz/) about language and its possible autonomy in brains, AI models, and other systems linking to our lab's work on active data and the thoughts-thinkers continuum. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Language As Auto-Generator (21:14) Virtual Governors In Physiology (30:37) Mathematics, Metaphysics, Free Lunches (40:40) Language Models As Evidence (49:46) Minimal Systems, Language Criteria PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 57m 56s | ||||||
| 11/29/25 |  Conversation 1 with Diana Moga, Alexey Tolchinsky, and Chris Fields | This is a ~52 minute discussion between Diana Moga (https://www.dianamogamd.com/), Alexey Tolchinsky (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/), Chris Fields (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/), and I on topics related to autism, ketamine-assisted therapy, and the linking of these concepts to somatic biology. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Ketamine, Trauma, Defining Autism (06:12) Trauma, Gender, Autism Models (13:14) Autistic Phenomenological Patterns (19:23) Autism Neurotypical Continuum Traits (24:15) Assessments, Attention, Social Trauma (31:25) Opposite Minds, Hyperplasticity (38:21) Experiments, Translation, Environments (44:51) Dimensionality and Collective Behavior PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 52m 19s | ||||||
| 11/23/25 |  Conversation 1 with Nora Belrose: AI, sentience, and Platonic Space | This is a ~1 hour 5 minute conversation between Nora Belrose (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=p_oBc64AAAAJ&hl=en) and me on the topics of consciousness, AI, and different views of the Platonic Space. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Introductions and Moral Risks (09:11) Intelligence, Sentience, Irreversibility (16:38) Digital Copies and Value (24:54) Dynamic Platonic Mindspace (35:19) Passable Forms, Cosmic Memory (44:06) Changing Forms, Light Cones (55:00) LLMs, Goals, Simulation PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 1h 05m 49s | ||||||
| 11/22/25 |  Discussion with Alexey Tolchinsky and Thomas Pollak 2 | This is a ~1 hour conversation between Alexey Tolchinsky (https://montgomerycountypsychologist.com/), a clinical psychologist and Adjunct Professor at The George Washington University, Center for Professional Psychology, and Thomas Pollak (https://orcid.org/0000-0002-6171-0810), a neuropsychiatrist and researcher working at the Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience at King's College London. We discussed the implications of rejuvenation therapies for cognition and some strategies for upcoming experiments on Anthrobots. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Rejuvenation, memory, wisdom (14:07) Cancer and tissue resilience (20:17) Brainwashing, suggestion, belief (27:24) Placebo, xenobots, resilience (34:46) Patient anthrobot models (45:45) Psychiatric phenotypes in cells (52:24) Cryogenic reset and organoids PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 55m 43s | ||||||
| 11/21/25 |  Discussion #1 with Chris Fields, Mark Solms, Karl Friston, and Thomas Pollak: introspection & more | This is a ~1 hour 5 minute working conversation with Chris Fields (https://chrisfieldsresearch.com/), Mark Solms (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=vD4p8rQAAAAJ&hl=en), Karl Friston (https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=q_4u0aoAAAAJ&hl=en), and Thomas Pollak (https://www.kcl.ac.uk/people/thomas-pollak) starting on the topic of variable degrees of introspection in natural and synthetic agents, and how that looks from the active inference framework, and moves into related topics of application of cognitive plasticity to regenerative biology. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Optimal introspection in agents (12:56) Consciousness, feeling, clinical introspection (24:44) Controlling preferences and desires (35:19) Modifying prior preferences therapeutically (42:04) Regeneration, biodomes, cellular priors (52:46) Life missions and pathology (59:08) Reboots, psychedelics, guided plasticity PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 1h 05m 02s | ||||||
| 11/17/25 |  "Entropic motivation and the roots of agency"by Alex Kiefer | This is a ~35 min talk titled "Entropic motivation and the roots of agency" by Alex Kiefer (https://philpeople.org/profiles/alex-kiefer) + ~25 min discussion of the issues of motivation in artificial and natural agents. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Entropy, Motivation, Psychophysical Identity (35:45) Willpower, Purpose, Buddhist Motivation (45:57) Emergent Goals and Uncertainty (58:06) Platonic Patterns and Wrap-up PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 1h 03m 28s | ||||||
| 11/11/25 |  "Unconventional Embodiments: model systems & strategies addressing mind-blindness" by Michael Levin | This is a ~45 minute talk for an embodied cognition audience, covering my framework for diverse intelligence, our use of morphogenesis as a model system for communicating with unconventional minds, and my views on our new MomBot platform and how it helps understand the symmetries between science and agency, and the novel group minds consisting of technology, living matter, and scientists themselves. CHAPTERS: (00:00) Framing Novel Beings (04:56) Developmental Mind Continuum (09:40) Memory Beyond Brains (15:08) Cells Navigating Morphospace (18:13) Cognitive Light Cones (22:38) Bioelectric Communication Interface (29:51) Xenobots and Anthrobots (35:45) MomBot Embodied AI (42:47) Applications and Ethical Futures PRODUCED BY: https://aipodcast.ing SOCIAL LINKS: Podcast Website: https://thoughtforms-life.aipodcast.ing YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3pVafx6EZqXVI2V_Efu2uw Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thoughtforms-life/id1805908099 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7JCmtoeH53neYyZeOZ6ym5 Twitter: https://x.com/drmichaellevin Blog: https://thoughtforms.life The Levin Lab: https://drmichaellevin.org | 46m 40s | ||||||
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