
The Financial System Is Designed So You Never Catch Up
From Trezor Talks by Trezor
March 18, 2026 · 1h 11m · Season 1 · Episode 19
About this episode
Kevin Follonier discusses his distrust of traditional investing and the financial system, sharing insights from his journey in crypto.
Kevin Follonier, founder of the When Shift Happens podcast, reveals the reason he doesn’t own a house and why traditional investing is quietly losing people money. “I never trusted the system. That's why I built companies.” That mindset eventually led Kevin to launch the When Shift Happens Podcast, where he interviews the biggest voices in crypto and business. Don’t miss out on Kevin’s rollercoaster of a story into crypto: • Taking a plane for a 15-minute coffee about Bitcoin • Fixing the big reputation problem in crypto • Surviving the 2022 market crash • Travelling around the world for in-person only podcasts Kevin also talks about working with Steven Bartlett (founder of The Diary Of A CEO) and what he learned about high performers while building his show. Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro (01:02) - Crypto’s reputation problem (03:00) - Why people think crypto is a scam (06:18) - Kevin’s first business & health crisis (07:50) - Discovering Bitcoin in the bear market (09:17) - The coffee that changed everything (10:10) - Reading The Bitcoin Standard (11:46) - Bitcoin as the new internet (13:03) - Why the system is designed against you (14:30) - The hidden hurdle rate problem…
People in this episode
Guest: Kevin Follonier
Topics covered
- crypto
- investing
- financial system
- real estate
- market crash
- podcasting
Keywords
- financial system
- crypto
- investing
- real estate
- Bitcoin
- market crash
- podcasting
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: When Shift Happens, The Diary Of A CEO
Products: Bitcoin
Books & works: The Bitcoin Standard
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