Introducing We Don't Talk About Leonard

About this episode

The episode investigates Leonard Leo's influence on the conservative takeover of America's courts.

In this first episode of We Don't Talk About Leonard, a new miniseries created in partnership with On the Media and ProPublica, ProPublica reporters Andrea Bernstein, Andy Kroll, and Ilya Marritz investigate the background of the man who has played a critical role in the conservative takeover of America's courts — Leonard Leo. From his humble roots in middle class New Jersey, to a mansion in Maine where last year he hosted a fabulous party on the eve of the Supreme Court decision to tank “Roe.” Listen to On the Media wherever you get your podcasts. This podcast was created in partnership with ProPublica, a nonprofit newsroom that investigates abuses of power. Sign up to receive their biggest stories as soon as they’re published. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

People in this episode

Guests: Andrea Bernstein, Andy Kroll, Ilya Marritz

Topics covered

• Leonard Leo
• conservative takeover
• Supreme Court
• Roe v. Wade

Keywords

• ProPublica
• On the Media
• investigation
• court system

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: We Don't Talk About Leonard, Roe

Places: America, New Jersey, Maine

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