LIVE! Employee engagement in times of crisis (why bother?), with Jeffrey Fermin and Kristien Turner

LIVE! Employee engagement in times of crisis (why bother?), with Jeffrey Fermin and Kristien Turner

From Truth, Lies and Work by HubSpot Podcast Network

April 3, 2026 · 1h 13m

About this episode

The episode discusses employee engagement during crises with insights from industry experts.

Welcome back to a special live edition of Truth, Lies & Work, the award-winning podcast where behavioral science meets workplace culture. This episode is brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals. In this panel discussion, hosts Leanne Elliott (Chartered Occupational Psychologist) and Al Elliott (Business Owner) are joined by two industry titans to discuss the "doom and gloom" currently permeating the global workforce. Joining the conversation are: Christian Turner: CEO of TK Talent Group, HR veteran with over 100,000 hires under his belt, and Harvard-educated organizational psychologist. Jeffrey Fermin: Employee engagement expert, founding member of Officevibe, and current lead at All Voices. 🔥 Topics Covered 1. The "Job Hugging" Phenomenon Low turnover doesn't always equal high engagement. We explore why employees are "hugging" their current roles out of fear rather than loyalty. Christian explains why disengaged employees might give high survey scores just to "not rock the boat" while secretly planning their exit. 2. Redefining Engagement Metrics Is your expensive employee survey actually telling you anything? The panel…

People in this episode

Hosts: Leanne Elliott, Al Elliott

Guests: Christian Turner, Jeffrey Fermin

Topics covered

  • employee engagement
  • workplace culture
  • crisis management
  • turnover
  • engagement metrics
  • organizational psychology
  • commercial case for culture

Keywords

  • employee engagement
  • workplace culture
  • turnover
  • engagement metrics
  • organizational psychology
  • HR
  • commercial culture

Sponsors

HubSpot Podcast Network

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: TK Talent Group, Officevibe, All Voices

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