TTOFS Ep 89: The Growing Pains (feat. David Selles)

TTOFS Ep 89: The Growing Pains (feat. David Selles)

From Try This On For Size Pod by Phil and Jimbo

December 30, 2025 · 59 min

About this episode

In this episode, Phil and Jimbo discuss personal growth and the concept of growing pains with guest David Selles.

Try this on for size… It is Episode 89, with first-time guest David Selles! In this episode, we begin by hearing David’s story of finding himself in the very non-New England world of grad school friends (0:30), and by sharing how we know David and his journey to the pod (4:00)! We then share ‘Where are we at?’ (5:30), before diving into our main topic: exploring pain and growth (15:00). We discuss our growing pains in 2025 (16:20) and incidentally hit a few distinct questions along the way. Are we just creating artificial growing pains (18:50)? Do we have an inner need to grow (21:40)? Do we need better processes for discernment to identify where we need to grow (25:00)? What’s the difference between monotonous pain and new stretch zones (28:30)? Is some growth contrived (35:00)? What are we nostalgic for (43:35)? And what growing pains should we consider undertaking before becoming parents (46:00)? Lastly, as always, we close with The Dressing Room (48:50) and some things to try on for size in the new year! We hope you enjoy :)

People in this episode

Guest: David Selles

Topics covered

  • pain
  • growth
  • personal development
  • nostalgia
  • parenting

Keywords

  • growing pains
  • discernment
  • stretch zones
  • artificial growth

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: The Growing Pains

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