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Messianic Jews and Gentiles whom God leads to support the Messianic Jewish community recognize that the Hebrew Roots movement threatens the integrity and outlook of Messianic Judaism. This podcast aims to start an open conversation about how we can solve this problem, for our sake and theirs.To donate in support of defending the Messianic Jewish community against Hebrew Roots replacement theology, you can go to www.twomessianicjews.com/donate*We also sent the survey directly to 100 people via text and asked them to share it00:00 - Introduction4:09 - What is Hebrew Roots?14:33 - Distinguishing Hebrew Roots from Gentiles genuinely led to our community19:10 - Contradictions and Conflicts between Hebrew Roots and Messianic Judaism33:30 - Results of Survey on Hebrew Roots in Messianic Congregations37:18 - "Approximately how often do you notice Hebrew Roots people in your Messianic congregations?"37:50 - "How do you feel about Hebrew Roots?"38:50 - "How does the presence of Hebrew Roots in Messianic congregations affect whether you invite Jewish people to a service or event?"45:02 - "Have you heard Jewish believers of Jewish non-believers comment on the presence of Hebrew Roots in Messianic congregations? If so, what did they say?"47:05 - "What effect does the presence of Hebrew Roots have on your Messianic congregations and the Messianic community in general?"51:50 - "How has the presence of Hebrew Roots in Messianic congregations affected your personal commitment to the Messianic Jewish community?"1:00:29 - How did a supersessionist movement for Gentiles take over an anti-supersessionist community for Jews?1:00:45 - Factor #1 - Hebrew Roots use Messianic Jewish labels and spaces for themselves1:06:43 - Factor #2 - We use Hebrew Roots "Dog Whistles"1:06:53 - Factor #3 - We operate our services in ways compatible with Hebrew Roots1:08:13 - How can we repair the damage?1:08:25 - What is the Messianic Jewish mission and purpose?1:17:10 - How do we protect our mission against the Hebrew Roots threat?1:17:17 - Solution #1 - Implement Guardrails to protect our organizations and spaces1:22:39 - Solution #2 - clear about our view of the Church, Gentiles, and Torah1:23:40 - Solution #3 - Avoid using Hebrew Roots "Dog Whistles"1:27:14 - Solution #4 - Do not invite Hebrew Roots to our spaces1:27:21 - Solution #5 - We need to publicly denounce Hebrew Roots theology1:28:08 - Solution #6 - Make our spaces incompatible with Hebrew Roots / Affirm Gentile identity in our congregations1:35:11 - Solution #7 - Politely ask Hebrew Roots people to leave our congregations and ministry spaces1:35:20 - Resources to help communicate change1:36:09 - 8 Reasons Why Gentiles Matter in God's Kingdom1:38:35 - An Urgent Call to Hebrew Roots Christians1:40:00 - 13 Principles of Ethical Distinction in Messianic Jewish Congregations1:45:59 - Spectrum of Hebrew Roots chart (explained in 'What is Hebrew Roots?' section)1:46:20 - Other helpful resources, listed belowHelpful ResourcesDr. David Rudolph, “One New Man” Article (link)Messianic Jewish Perspectives (check back soon!)- “Are We Fulfilling the Messianic Jewish Vision? Looking to Our Past to Guide Our Future”- “2026 Academic Gathering Statement”Survey Results of “Hebrew Roots in Messianic Judaism” (link) 13 Principles of Ethical Distinction in Messianic Congregations (link) 8 Reasons Why Gentiles Matter (link) Ruben Gomez, “The Hebrew Roots Movement: A Critical Analysis of its Origins, Teachings & Biblical Interpretations” Gateway Center for Israel Articles- One Law (link)- Replacement Theology (link) - Why Christians Get Weird About Jewish Tradition (link)Joel Willitts, "Jewish Fish (ΙΧΘΥΣ) in Post-Supersessionist Water: Messianic Judaism within a Post-Supersessionistic Paradigm" (link) Joseph Culbertson, “Rediscovering My Gentile Roots,” (link) “The Messianic Jew: An Organ of the Jewish Messianic Movement” (link) Check out our video on the opening article! (link)

Why would a pastor walk away from the Hebrew Roots movement? In this interview, Pastor Gabe May of Headland Methodist Church shares his personal journey, what drew him into Hebrew Roots, what caused him to question it, and what led him to leave. Along the way, we examine the key biblical arguments for Hebrew Roots and uncover the deeper spiritual roots behind the movement.To support our work in challenging the Hebrew Roots movement, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donate1:45 - Pastor Gabe’s Christian upbringing 3:52 - What is Hebrew Roots?5:13 - How he got involved in Hebrew Roots9:50 - How Hebrew Roots affected his family 14:15 - What are Hebrew Roots communities like? 18:00 - Hearing a Messianic Jewish perspective for the first time 23:47 - Why he believed he should be Torah observant 25:37 - Are Christians grafted into Israel? (Romans 11)36:41 - Do Christians become citizens of Israel? (Ephesians 2)41:10 - The Jerusalem Council Explained (Acts 15)43:05 - What about Acts 15:21? 46:26 - What is sinful? 53:12 - The spiritual roots behind Hebrew Roots? 1:11:40 - God’s love for Jews and Gentiles 1:13:18 - Hebrew Roots in Messianic Jewish congregations 1:15:13 - Advice for Messianic Jewish leaders 1:17:12 - Advice for those considering Hebrew Roots1:18:45 - The moment that caused a change 1:20:26 - The way Satan deceives 1:21:16 - Why repentance matters You can also watch on YouTubeFollow us on Social Media: FacebookInstagram

We discuss the beauty and significance of Gentile identity in God's kingdom. When replacement theology and Hebrew Roots teachings are followed, we lose sight of God's design for His kingdom to be Israel and all the nations of the earth worshiping together. Check out this video to see all 8 reasons of the G.O.O.D. N.E.W.S. of Gentile identity.To support our work in combating replacement theology, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donateYou can also watch on our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠

The Amidah, the "Standing Prayer," is the central prayer during a Jewish service and is prayed three times a day by religious Jewish people. This prayer is so significant in Judaism it is simply called "The Prayer" in the Mishnah, a foundational rabbinic text from the 3rd century AD that preserves earlier traditions. In this video, I show how the central themes of the Amidah are the central themes of the New Testament. Enjoy!To support our work in strengthening the faith and identity of Jewish followers of Messiah, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donate______________________ You can also watch on our ⁠⁠⁠YouTube channel⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠Music: ⁠⁠https://www.bensound.com

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What if I told you that many major Christian denominations have formally denounced replacement theology? What if I told you there is a brand new version of replacement theology that is taking over the internet? Find out more listening to this presentation about replacement theology and one law theology!To support our work in combating replacement theology, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donate00:00 Introduction00:55 What is replacement theology?3:34 What is post-supersessionist theology?6:30 How to interpret the bible as a post-supersessionist9:49 Three Kinds of Replacement Theology10:45 What is punitive supersessionism?27:50 What is economic supersessionism?34:12 Neither Jew or gentile... Galatians 3:2835:35 Who is the 'Israel of God' in Galatians 6:16?41:45 Things Replacement Theologians Say43:35 One Law Theology/Hebrew Roots is Replacement Theology48:12 Things One Law/Hebrew Roots People Say50:00 Not all the Torah is for Everyone50:53 Erasure of Gentile Identity54:40 Christians are Correcting Replacement TheologyYou can also watch on our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow us on Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you are looking for a way to support us and gain early access to our content, you can become a monthly supporter on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribestar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Marcion was the "arch-heretic" who argued there is a good god and an evil god, the Tanakh (the Old Testament) is not scripture, and edited portions of the New Testament. He was the first influential heretic that the Church had to guard a biblical understand of God and the Tanakh as God's word. The Messianic Jewish community should appreciate the Church for successfully defending God and His scripture.To support our work in strengthening the faith and identity of Jewish followers of Messiah, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donateYou can also watch on our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠Follow us on Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠If you are looking for a way to support us and gain early access to our content, you can become a monthly supporter on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Subscribestar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Isaiah draws from the story of Passover in Isaiah 52 and 53. The New Testament portrays Jesus as our Passover Lamb and the suffering servant of Isaiah 53. Gain a deeper understanding of the gospel message as told by the Tanakh and New Testament and find out an amazing connection to the shankbone of the Passover seder and the 'arm of the Lord'!To support our work in strengthening the faith and identity of Jewish followers of Messiah, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donate______________________ You can also watch on our ⁠⁠⁠YouTube ChannelFollow us on Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠______________________Music: ⁠⁠https://www.bensound.com

Michael Jones, from one of the largest Christian apologetics YouTube channels, Inspiring Philosophy, interviewed us on the topic: "Is the New Testament Antisemitic?" This message is particularly timely, given the increasing prevalence of Jew-hatred worldwide. Sadly, Christian antisemitism is also a reality, and in this interview, we address the challenging passages that antisemites cite to argue that the New Testament promotes Jew-hatred. We cover Matthew 27:24–26; John 8:44; Revelation 2:9; 3:9; Matthew 23:33; 1 Thessalonians 2:14–16; and Philippians 3:2. To support our work in combating antisemitism, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donateMake sure to check out ⁠Inspiring Philosophy! It is an excellent channel that we have been watching for years. To watch the interview on YouTube, click ⁠here⁠.______________________ You can also watch our YouTube channel. Follow us on Social Media: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠______________________Music: ⁠https://www.bensound.com

At the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America (MJAA) Messiah Conference 2023, Jonathan gave a presentation addressing the standard interpretation of Mark 7.15–19. He presents three reasons why it is implausible that Jesus abrogated Israel's dietary laws and then offers a reading of the text that makes better sense of Jesus's argument in its Jewish context. To support our work in strengthening the faith and identity of Jewish followers of Messiah, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donateSpecial thanks to Dr. Logan Williams for sharing his research with us on Mark 7.18–19 for this presentation! Dr. Williams won the 2022 Paul J. Achtemeier Award for New Testament scholarship for this paper and it will be published as an article in the peer-reviewed journal, New Testament Studies.___________________________ You can also listen on our podcast: https://anchor.fm/two-messianic-jews Follow us on Social Media: FacebookInstagram___________________________ Works cited:Daniel Boyarin, “Mark 7:1-23 – Finally,” in Taylor G. Petrey, et al., eds., Re-Making the World: Christianity and Categories – Essays in Honor of Karen L. King (Tübingen: Mohr Siebeck, 2019), 19–34.David Rudolph, "Jesus and the Food Laws: A Reassessment of Mark 7:19b," Evangelical Quarterly, 74 (2002): 291–311.Jodi Magness, “What’s the Poop on Ancient Toilets and Toilet Habits?”, Near Eastern Archaeology 75 (2012): 80–87.Jonathan Klawans, Impurity and Sin in Ancient Judaism (New York: Oxford University Press, 2000).Logan Williams, "The Stomach Purifies All Foods: Jesus’ Anatomical Argument in Mark 7.18–19." Society of Biblical Literature Annual Meeting. Denver, CO. November 2022.Matthew Thiessen, Jesus and the Forces of Death: The Gospels' Portrayal of Ritual Impurity Within First-Century Judaism (Grand Rapids: Baker Academic, 2020), 187–195.Shlomo Naeh, "Jesus, the Pharisees, and the Oral Torah", Te’udah 31 (2021): 229–248.Yair Furstenberg, “Defilement Penetrating the Body: A New Understanding of Contamination in Mark 7.15,” NTS 54 (2008): 176–200______________________ Music: https://www.bensound.com

Did Jesus do away with the Jewish dietary laws? Many Christians point to Mark 7.15-19 to say that he did, which is understandable, considering the common translation of Mark 7.19, “Thus he [Jesus] declared all foods clean.” In this video, I present five reasons why it is implausible that Jesus eliminated the Jewish dietary laws and then offer a reading of Mark 7.15-19 that makes better sense of Jesus’s argument in its Jewish context. To support our work in strengthening the faith and identityof Jewish followers of Messiah, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donateNote: Between 25:03 and 25:24, I mention that "pork is not in itself unclean" and that defilement comes through a Jew's disobedience to God's command not to eat pigs. In Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14, pigs are not ontologically unclean; they are not unclean period. They are unclean for Israel, the Jewish people, because God declares them to be such. Jewish disobedience to the food laws, in particular, is a matter of intention. For more on this, along with the references to this perspective in Jewish literature, see Dr. David Rudolph's essay "Paul and the Food Laws: A Reassessment of Romans 14.14, 20" ___________________________ You can also watch on our YouTube channel Follow us on Social Media: FacebookInstagramVideo on Matthew 5:17 (Did Jesus End God’s Covenant with Israel? | Live at MJAA Messiah Conference 2022) Does Colossians Teach Against Jewish Practices? (Colossians 2.16-17) __________________________ Works cited: Daniel Boyarin, The Jewish Gospels: The Story of the Jewish Christ (New York: The New Press, 2012), 102-128.David Rudolph, "Jesus and the Food Laws: A Reassessment of Mark 7:19b," Evangelical Quarterly, 74 (2002): 291-311. John MacArthur, “The Inside Story on Defilement (Mark 7.14-23),” June 12, 2012. Jonathan Klawans, Impurity and Sin in Ancient Judaism (New York: Oxford University Press, 2000). Matthew Thiessen, "Abolishers of the Law in Early Judaism and Matthew 5,17-20," Biblica 93, no. 4 (2012): 543-56. Matthew Thiessen, Jesus and the Forces of Death: The Gospels' Portrayal of Ritual Impurity Within First-Century Judaism (Grand Rapids: Baker Academic, 2020), 187-195. Yair Furstenberg, “Defilement Penetrating the Body: A New Understanding of Contamination in Mark 7.15,” NTS 54 (2008): 176-200 ______________________ Music: https://www.bensound.com

At the Messianic Jewish Alliance of America (MJAA) Messiah Conference 2022, Jonathan gave a presentation responding to arguments for replacement theology put forth in Pastor Andy Stanley’s book, Irresistible: Reclaiming the New that Jesus Unleashed for the World. To support our work in combating replacement theology, you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donateQuestions this presentation covers include: - What does replacement theology mean for the Jewish people?- Did Yeshua teach that he came to end God’s covenant with Israel, to make the Torah obsolete in Matthew 5.17?- Did the destruction of the Temple signal the end of Judaism and God’s covenant with Israel?- Why did Yeshua have to die? You can also watch on our YouTube channelFollow us on Social Media: FacebookInstagram _________________________________________ Works cited: Anders Runesson, Divine Wrath and Salvation in Mathew: The Narrative World of the First Gospel (Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2016). Anders Runesson, “Saving the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel: Purity, Forgiveness, and Synagogues in the Gospel of Matthew,” Melilah 11 (2014): 8-24. Craig S. Keener, The Gospel of Matthew: A Socio-Rhetorical Commentary (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 2009). Daniel Boyarin, “Semantic Differences; or ‘Judaism’/‘Christianity’.” in The Ways that Never Parted: Jews and Christians in Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages, eds. Annette Yokisho Reed and Adam H. Becker, (Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2007), 65-85. David J. Rudolph, A Jew to the Jews: Jewish Contours of Pauline Flexibility in 1 Corinthians 9.19-23, WUNT 2/304 (Tübingen: Mohr Siebeck, 2011). David J. Rudolph, “One New Man, Hebrew Roots, Replacement Theology: How to restore the Jewish roots of the Christian faith without getting weird” (9-8-2021).Geza Vermes, “Redemption and Genesis XXII – the Binding of Isaac and the Sacrifice of Jesus,” in Scripture and Tradition in Judaism (Leiden: Brill, 1961). Helen K. Bond, The Historical Jesus: A Guide for the Perplexed (London: T & T Clark, 2012). Matthew Thiessen, "Abolishers of the Law in Early Judaism and Matthew 5,17-20," Biblica 93, no. 4 (2012): 543-56. Nicholas Schaser interview – “I Did Not Come to Abolish but to Fulfill” Shaye J. D. Cohen, From the Maccabees to the Mishnah, 2nd ed. (Louisville: Westminster John Knox Press, 2006). Ulrich Luz, Matthew 1-7: A Commentary (Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 2007). _________________________________________ Music: https://www.bensound.com

In Deuteronomy 13, we learn that false prophets can perform miracles. From this point, counter-missionary, Rabbi Michael Skobac reasons: “miracles don’t prove anything.” If he is right, then Jesus’s resurrection does not prove he is the Messiah. But is Rabbi Skobac right? In this video, I argue that when we understand Deuteronomy 13 in light of Passover and with the help of Maimonides, we see that contrary to what Rabbi Skobac says about it, Deuteronomy 13 is actually the foundation for why Jesus’s resurrection would be evidence that he is the Messiah! To support our work in responding to counter-missionaries,you can visit https://www.twomessianicjews.com/donateFor a presentation of Orthodox Jewish scholar, Dr. Pinchas Lapide’s case for Jesus’s resurrection click here___________________________ You can also watch on our YouTube channelFollow us on Social Media:FacebookInstagram___________________________Other videos like this one:A Case for Messianic Judaism (Live at YMJA Virtual Messiah Does the Resurrection Prove Jesus is the Messiah? A Jewish Response to a Jewish Objection "Why Messianic Judaism Is Fake" [REACTION] ___________________________ Full videos where I get the clips of Rabbi Michael Skobac:THE MYTH OF RESURRECTIONCHRISTIANITY CHANGED MY LIFE: Can Miracles Prove Anything?___________________________ Music: bensound.com