Two Off The Tee

Jeff and James finally reveal the golf project they have been working on: an indoor golf simulator business with multiple bays, 24/7 access, and extensive AI support behind the scenes.The episode starts with James having to admit Jeff beat him straight up, then moves into LIV Golf's future, Chicago handicap friction, Golf Genius, and the great golf cart vs. walking debate.Leave a review and share your best ideas for the golf simulator business with the brothers.

Is golf etiquette actually dead? Jeff and James break down the wildest stories from public courses this season — from solos blasting music on the tee box to balls flying at you before you're off the green. Plus: Tiger Woods gets arrested, Phil Mickelson pulls out, and the Masters is missing both legends for the first time since 1994.Jeff also doubles down on his standing 4v4 challenge to every golfer crew in Chicago, calls out the "Gorilla Golfer" from the comments, and pitches Nongshim as a sponsor. James says he's never changing his putter. The brothers debate when you should actually buy new clubs, and Jeff admits he might have fallen for the ZT putter hype.Path to Par Season 10 is launching soon — Chevy Chase is the first stop. No cut line for the playoffs this year.Drop a comment: Is golf etiquette dead or are we just old? Subscribe if you haven't — we're just getting started.CHAPTERS:0:00 — Cold Open: Masters Gear and Stolen Valor1:32 — Tee Box: When Should You Buy New Clubs?13:54 — Front Nine: Tiger Woods DUI and Masters Preview19:58 — The Turn: Is Golf Etiquette Dead?37:36 — Back Nine: Path to Par Season 10 Update44:27 — CTA / 4v4 Challenge and Gorilla Golfer50:09 — OutroTAGS: amateur golf, golf etiquette, golf podcast, chicago golf, two off the tee, tiger woods dui, masters 2026, when to buy new golf clubs, golf music on course, korean american golf, path to par, golf league chicago, 4v4 golf challenge, putter comparison, golf hot takes

The Masters is three weeks away and Jeff and James are making their picks — including a $25 YOLO on Tiger Woods at +25,000 odds. Bryson DeChambeau just won back-to-back LIV events and James wants a LIV player to win Augusta just to make a point. Then the hosts get into the golf ball debate that never ends:are amateurs playing the wrong ball? Jeff argues consistency matters at any level. James says if you’re still losing a dozen a round, just buy the cheap ones. Both have a point.Season 10 of Path to Par Golf Club is officially kicking off.The boys share bold predictions on who wins the league, who the dark horse is, and whether the handicap allowance changes will finally stop the high-cap winners streak.Follow Two Off the Tee on YouTube for full episodes and clips.

Shane Lowry had a 3-shot lead with 3 holes left at PGA National and gave the tournament away with back-to-back water balls — and Jeff had money on him. Jeff and James break down the mental game collapse, what it feels like to protect a lead and fail, and how every amateur has a version of this story.Back in Chicago, the brothers hit the indoor simulator to get Path to Par GC Season 10-ready. The data does not lie — one swing cooperated and one absolutely did not. They debate whether simulator reps actually translate to real golf, and whether the launch monitor is the best investment a serious amateur can make.Jeff breaks down his live Kalshi picks for the Arnold Palmer Invitational at Bay Hill — Patrick Reed on the DP Tour, Si Woo Kim as a buy-low flip — and explains the penny-to-fifteen-cents strategy that is actually working.LIV Golf is back in Hong Kong. Jeff and James discuss why Anthony Kim is not just a feel-good comeback story — LIV is deliberately building their brand around him, and it might be working.To close it out, the guys go rapid fire on pace of play. Five-hour rounds, golf cart timers, music on the course, and whether the league needs an official policy.Path to Par GC Season 10 is around the corner. Subscribe and ride along.

EP 14 of Two Off the Tee. James takes the hosting chair as the brothers break down the WM Phoenix Open chaos. First up: streamer Jack Doherty gets a lifetime PGA Tour ban after paying a fan $100 to scream during Mackenzie Hughes' backswing. Is the ban too harsh or exactly right? Then the real story — Hideki Matsuyama's heartbreaking playoff loss after a chair drop disrupted his swing on 18, handing Chris Gotterup the win.From there, the episode shifts to Path to Par Golf Club, the brothers' competitive amateur golf league entering its 10th season in Chicago. The league is getting a new name, a new cutline, and a new fight: James wants match play brackets for the playoffs. Jeff wants to keep traditional stroke play. Neither one backs down.At the turn: do you putt with a line or without? James shares why he ditched the line years ago, Jeff confesses his no-look putting experiment, and both admit that PGA 2K video games actually improved their real-world putting.The back nine covers golf pet peeves — from people stealing your ball on the course to flagstick etiquette to the friend who's always late to tee times.Drop your vote in the comments or DM us: match play or stroke play for the Season 10 playoffs?New episodes weekly. Follow Two Off the Tee on YouTube for the video version.

In this episode, James takes the host chair and puts Jeff on the spot. We break down how we actually got into golf, why perfection drives us insane, and how handicaps might be breaking amateur competition.We dive deep into:Why high handicaps keep winning leaguesWhether match play is better than stroke play for amateursThe controversial “exceptional score” handicap ruleIncentives (or lack of them) to actually improve at golfLIV vs PGA politics, suspensions, and favoritismWhy simulator golf and TGL aren’t landing with fansShould women compete with men in simulator golf?This episode is part golf therapy session, part league commissioner debate, and part reality check for amateur golfers who say they want fairness — until the rules change.00:00 – James takes over as host02:30 – How we actually got into golf07:10 – Golf, perfectionism, and why we’re addicted10:40 – Handicap goals and improving vs maintaining15:00 – Why short game and putting separate golfers18:30 – Almost quitting golf (shanks, frustration, reality)24:15 – Match play vs stroke play for amateurs31:50 – Range mats vs grass debate36:10 – The handicap rule that caused backlash43:30 – Why the worst golfer winning is a problem50:00 – Incentives to improve (or not)58:00 – LIV vs PGA, suspensions, and hypocrisy1:07:30 – Is LIV dying?1:11:00 – TGL, simulator golf, and women competing with men1:28:45 – Final thoughts and what’s next for the club

Two Off The Tee gets heated. A public call-out turns into a real challenge, and we break down whether it’s confidence or desperation. From handicap debates to PGA vs LIV favoritism, this episode covers ego, data, and why everyone suddenly wants a piece.

Ten years in, things get personal. This episode starts with brother vs. brother as Jeff and James set up a 7-round series to finally settle it on the course — straight up, no excuses, and three months to train.From there, we zoom out to the bigger picture. We break down where MGGA is headed in year 10, including playoff structure, attendance issues, handicap integrity, pace of play, and why some league rules may need to change. We also get into what actually makes golf rounds better or worse — from course setups to why most clubhouse food is wildly overpriced and underwhelming.If you care about competitive golf, league fairness, or you’ve ever argued with your buddies about handicaps, this one’s for you.

In this episode of Two Off the Tee, we get into the debates every golfer has strong opinions about — whether they admit it or not.We start with golf fashion and the reaction to Malbon signing Fred Couples. Are hoodies, joggers, and streetwear officially taking over the course, or is golf drifting too far from tradition?From there, we dive deep into tee box selection. Ego vs reality. Are golfers playing the wrong tees? Does moving back actually make you better, or does it just slow the round down for everyone? We debate forward tees, “graduation” systems, pace of play, and why this topic always turns heated.We also break down the Reebok Invitational, how handicaps were handled, and why strokes become a problem the moment money is involved.To wrap it up, we react to comments about honors vs ready golf, lessons vs YouTube golf, and the infamous “20 handicap” chirps.If you play golf, you’ve argued about at least one of these.Follow the show and leave a rating — new episodes weekly.

In Episode 4, we dive into the great handicap debate — is it fair to talk trash when you’re getting 10–20 strokes? We break down what’s staying and going in our bags for 2025, why pace of play is so brutal on public courses, and the on-course pet peeves that tilt us the most (yes, including Kirkland search parties and people never fixing pitch marks).If you’re a weekend golfer, league player, or Chicago golfer who loves unfiltered golf talk, this one hits home.Topics:– Are handicaps making golfers soft?– Talking trash with strokes– Gear changes: drivers, 3-woods, 3-irons, wedges– Why does the pace of play collapse– Golf etiquette & pet peeves

Anthony Kim is officially back, and we break down what his return means for golf. We also dive into the Internet Invitational drama, golf course behavior, music on the course, slow play, and why indoor simulators are getting out of control.On the back half, we get into the year our bets went too far, our honest thoughts on gimmies, and what it means for Chicago courses to shut down for new housing.Two Off the Tee is honest amateur golf talk from brothers Jeff and James Shin—Chicago golfers, weekend competitors, and lifelong trash talkers.New episodes every week.