
When Inclusion Leaves You Out with Cameron Carr
From Under the Rug at Work by Nicole Turnbull | Chief Courage Officer | Neon Shed
October 27, 2025 · 31 min
About this episode
The episode discusses the paradox of inclusion leaving some individuals feeling invisible and explores actionable insights for leaders.
Inclusion is meant to bring people in, yet too often it leaves the very people it’s designed to support feeling invisible. This conversation looks at why that happens and what leaders can do differently. Welcome to Under the Rug at Work , where we shine light on the things that are normally swept under the rug. I’m your host, Nicole Turnbull, and today I’m chatting with Cameron Carr about when inclusion leaves you out. Cameron is a retired Paralympian, speaker, and Director of Perception Performance. Drawing on his sporting career in wheelchair rugby and his transition into corporate life, he shares what real inclusion looks like day to day and how it connects to performance. Cameron Carr is a former national wheelchair rugby player who represented Australia for more than a decade. After sport he entered the corporate world, including a graduate role with Anglo American at 41. Now as Director of Perception Performance, he helps leaders create environments where all workers can perform at their best. This conversation looks at why performative diversity and inclusion (D&I) erodes trust and creates psychosocial risk, and how inclusion should be a genuine leadership mindset…
People in this episode
Host: Nicole Turnbull
Guest: Cameron Carr
Topics covered
- inclusion
- leadership
- diversity
- psychosocial risk
- performance
- relationships
Keywords
- inclusion
- diversity
- leadership
- psychosocial risk
- performance
- wheelchair rugby
- trust
- relationships
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Neon Shed, Anglo American
Books & works: Under the Rug at Work
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