“They were creating bio-weapons!”- BOMBSHELL CIA & Wuhan report

“They were creating bio-weapons!”- BOMBSHELL CIA & Wuhan report

From Undercurrents by UnHerd

November 14, 2025 · 16 min · Season 1 · Episode 235

About this episode

Emily interviews investigative reporter Emily Kopp about her report on US spy agencies' connections to Wuhan virologist Ralph Baric and the implications of a lab leak.

Click this link to learn more about PMI’s Q3 results https://www.pmi.com/progress Become a supporter of the show - just $1 for the first month: https://unherd.com/undercurrents/ Emily talks to investigative reporter at The Daily Caller News Foundation, Emily Kopp, about her bombshell report revealing that US spy agencies were "cozying up" to Wuhan virologist Ralph Baric long before the pandemic. Kopp details how new documents show the ODNI and CIA consulted Baric—the "big cheese" of coronavirus engineering—as early as 2015, even approaching him for a project on "human adaptation" of coronaviruses. They discuss how these same agencies, including the CIA, then "lied about the pandemic" and suppressed internal intelligence pointing to a lab leak—dismissing their own analysts as "conspiracy theorists"—likely because the truth would "implicate the agency" in the dangerous research. Watch it on the Undercurrents website: https://unherd.com/undercurrents/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

People in this episode

Host: Emily

Guest: Emily Kopp

Topics covered

  • bio-weapons
  • CIA
  • Wuhan
  • pandemic
  • lab leak
  • coronavirus engineering

Keywords

  • bio-weapons
  • CIA
  • Wuhan
  • pandemic
  • lab leak
  • coronavirus
  • Ralph Baric

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: CIA, ODNI, The Daily Caller News Foundation, Undercurrents, UnHerd

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