Unearthed

This episode was recorded on 12 June 2026. In this episode of Unearthed, hosts John Reade and Joe Cavatoni discuss the findings of the newly released Central Bank Gold Reserves Survey 2026 and examine the recent gold price. The hosts explore key survey findings, including expectations for further central bank buying, reserve diversification trends, and changing approaches to gold storage. The episode also examines recent gold price weakness, the impact of inflation and interest rate expectations, and why the longer-term drivers supporting gold remain intact despite current market headwinds. Subscribe to Unearthed wherever you get your podcasts and visit Goldhub.com for more insights. About World Gold Council We are a membership organisation that champions the role gold plays as a strategic asset, shaping the future of a responsible and accessible gold supply chain. Our team of experts builds understanding of the use case and possibilities of gold through trusted research, analysis, commentary, and insights. We drive industry progress, shaping policy and setting the standards for a perpetual and sustainable gold market. You can follow the World Gold Council on X at @goldcouncil and LinkedIn.

In this episode of Unearthed, hosts John Reade and Joseph Cavatoni, Senior Market Strategists at the World Gold Council, examine the forces driving gold to fresh record highs – from tariff clarity in the US to renewed investor demand and shifting interest rate expectations. They discuss the recent executive order confirming that gold bars can move across borders without additional tariffs, removing a key source of uncertainty for the market. Against this backdrop, they explore how slowing US economic data, rising prospects for rate cuts, and concerns about Federal Reserve independence are fueling Western investor flows into gold. With trillions parked in money market funds, the stage may be set for further investment momentum. Subscribe to Unearthed wherever you get your podcasts and visit Goldhub.com for more insights. Additional Resources: Q2 2025 Gold Demand Trends Report About World Gold Council We are a membership organisation that champions the role gold plays as a strategic asset, shaping the future of a responsible and accessible gold supply chain. Our team of experts builds understanding of the use case and possibilities of gold through trusted research, analysis, commentary, and insights. We drive industry progress, shaping policy and setting the standards for a perpetual and sustainable gold market. You can follow the World Gold Council on Twitter at @goldcouncil and LinkedIn. Terms & Conditions | World Gold Council

In this episode of Unearthed, hosts John Reade and Joseph Cavatoni, Senior Market Strategists at the World Gold Council, are joined by Ken Rogoff, Professor of Economics at Harvard University and former Chief Economist of the IMF. Together, they explore the shifting dynamics of the global monetary system, the arc of US dollar dominance, and the growing interest in potential alternative reserve currencies, from the euro and yuan to gold and digital currencies. Rogoff shares insights from his latest book Our Dollar, Your Problem, reflecting on the role of luck in the dollar’s ascent, the risks posed by US debt and political dysfunction, and what the next decade could hold for global reserves, inflation, and financial stability. Subscribe to Unearthed wherever you get your podcasts and visit Goldhub.com for more insights. Additional Resources: Kenneth Rogoff Our Dollar, Your Problem Notable Quotes: “There's no question [Nixon’s] policies have shaken things up and had countries looking for other reserve assets in a hurry. And certainly gold has benefited enormously from that.” – Ken Rogoff “I think luck played a big role in how high the dollar got and how widespread its use and how it became the lingua franca of trade and finance to such a large extent.” – Ken Rogoff “If I look around the world at the other regions and centres [...] Europe's financial markets or capital markets are very fragmented. Japan's are obviously much smaller than they used to be. And China's look tremendously underdeveloped compared to the United States’. So there's going to have to be an awful lot of changes, I think, before we see the dollar's hegemony genuinely challenged.” – John Reade “It's pretty unlikely [to return to the gold standard], but that doesn't mean gold can't play an important monetary role. People sometimes say, you know, Bitcoin is the new gold. And I would say gold is the new gold.” – Ken Rogoff About World Gold Council We are a membership organisation that champions the role gold plays as a strategic asset, shaping the future of a responsible and accessible gold supply chain. Our team of experts builds understanding of the use case and possibilities of gold through trusted research, analysis, commentary, and insights. We drive industry progress, shaping policy and setting the standards for a perpetual and sustainable gold market. You can follow the World Gold Council on Twitter at @goldcouncil and LinkedIn. Terms & Conditions | World Gold Council

This episode of Unearthed was recorded on Wednesday, April 23.In this episode of Unearthed, hosts John Reade and Joseph Cavatoni are joined by Reinhard Cluse, Chief European Economist at UBS, to explore the shifting dynamics of Europe's economy and the potential outlook for the months and years ahead. Reinhard discusses the structural challenges Europe has faced over the past decade and how these will influence the upcoming year. The group also discuss how Europe's evolving landscape could impact global asset allocation, including a bullish forecast for gold. Tune in for a nuanced discussion on Europe’s economic challenges, opportunities, and its potential renaissance. Additional Resources: UBS Insights and Reports Gold Demand Trends Q3 2023 Gold Reserves by Country ​​2023 Central Bank Gold Reserves Survey Notable Quotes: "Gold remains the cleanest way to express dollar downside, and we see a potential 15–20% upsell in gold." – Reinhard Cluse "Politics are the dominant theme and are likely to stay the dominant theme over the next couple of months, quarters, perhaps longer." – Reinhard Cluse "Europe remains a major economic power, with Western European investment demand for gold accounting for roughly 20–22% of global bar and coin demand." – John Reade "Europe was forced to get its act together; pressure has driven significant movement, especially in defense and infrastructure." – Reinhard Cluse About World Gold Council We are a membership organisation that champions the role gold plays as a strategic asset, shaping the future of a responsible and accessible gold supply chain. Our team of experts builds understanding of the use case and possibilities of gold through trusted research, analysis, commentary, and insights. We drive industry progress, shaping policy and setting the standards for a perpetual and sustainable gold market. You can follow the World Gold Council on Twitter at @goldcouncil and LinkedIn. Terms & Conditions | World Gold Council

In this episode of Unearthed, hosts John Reade and Joseph Cavatoni, Senior Market Strategists at the World Gold Council, welcome George Cheveley, Portfolio Manager at Ninety One, for an insightful look into the dynamics of the gold mining equities market. With gold hitting record highs throughout 2024 and again this year, they dig into why mining stocks haven’t kept pace and what’s driving the disconnect. George shares how investors should think about mining companies today, what factors influence their performance – from cost pressures to growth metrics – and how sentiment is starting to shift from earnings to value. The conversation also covers what kind of growth matters most to investors and how to think about mining equities in the context of broader portfolio decisions. Tune in for a detailed breakdown of what’s behind the headlines – and subscribe to Unearthed on your favourite podcast platform to stay up to date. Additional Resources: Gold Demand Trends Q4 (Full Year) 2024 Gold Reserves by Country Notable Quotes: “One of the things that I have heard from time to time is a production cliff looming for some of the producers, maybe five to ten years out, because of the pain the industry went through and the slowdowns in exploration.” – John Reade “ The gold industry has changed. The management of the industry has changed, and part of that is because of the circumstances that they went through in the last cycle.” – John Reade “ I think my own view is we're never going to end up with too few gold companies because every day there's people starting up junior gold companies. There's always somebody trying. I do think we probably could do with a bit more consolidation at the moment, but I also readily agree it's very hard to do.” – George Cheveley “I think time and timing is one of the big challenges and when we're feeling sorry for ourselves as fund managers. You know, sometimes we sit around and we say. The real problem with this job is we're talking to companies who are talking in decades and we're trying to service our clients who are talking in quarters, and we're trying to cover that spread, and it's pretty hard at times." – George Cheveley About World Gold Council We are a membership organisation that champions the role gold plays as a strategic asset, shaping the future of a responsible and accessible gold supply chain. Our team of experts builds understanding of the use case and possibilities of gold through trusted research, analysis, commentary, and insights. We drive industry progress, shaping policy and setting the standards for a perpetual and sustainable gold market. You can follow the World Gold Council on Twitter at @goldcouncil and LinkedIn. Terms & Conditions | World Gold Council

The following episode was recorded on Wednesday 12 March before gold hit US$3,000/oz on Friday 14 March. In this episode of Unearthed, World Gold Council’s Senior Market Strategists Joseph Cavatoni and John Reade analyse the latest trends in the global gold market, including its strong year-to-date performance, changing investor sentiment and gold ETF flows. They look at what's happening in the key markets around the world, discussing the muted physical demand in North America and Europe, the potential impact of European deficit spending on the gold market, and China’s growing investment demand – particularly the recent policy shift allowing major insurers to allocate assets to gold. With macroeconomic forces in flux, Joe and John consider what could drive gold higher to US$3,000/oz and what investors should watch next. Additional Resources: Gold Demand Trends Q4/Full Year 2024 Gold Reserves by Country About World Gold Council We are a membership organisation that champions the role gold plays as a strategic asset, shaping the future of a responsible and accessible gold supply chain. Our team of experts builds understanding of the use case and possibilities of gold through trusted research, analysis, commentary, and insights. We drive industry progress, shaping policy and setting the standards for a perpetual and sustainable gold market. You can follow the World Gold Council on Twitter at @goldcouncil and LinkedIn. Terms & Conditions | World Gold Council

In this episode of Unearthed, hosts Joe Cavatoni and John Reade kick off 2025 by discussing key trends likely to shape the gold market amid global uncertainty. They highlight U.S. political developments, including the introduction of the new administration and tariff debates as significant factors impacting gold’s role in the economy. John talks about political shifts in Europe and the impact these will have on regional economies and the relationship with the US. Inflation remains a focal point, with sticky rates creating challenges for consumer confidence and demand for gold jewelry and coins. Continued central bank gold purchases, notably by China, add to the complex outlook and this episode sets the stage for an intriguing year for gold investors. About World Gold Council We are a membership organization that champions the role gold plays as a strategic asset, shaping the future of a responsible and accessible gold supply chain. Our team of experts builds understanding of the use case and possibilities of gold through trusted research, analysis, commentary, and insights. We drive industry progress, shaping policy and setting the standards for a perpetual and sustainable gold market. You can follow the World Gold Council on Twitter at @goldcouncil and LinkedIn. Terms & Conditions | World Gold Council