From Data to Discipleship: The Four Cs Every Church Needs with Ronee de Leon

From Data to Discipleship: The Four Cs Every Church Needs with Ronee de Leon

From unSeminary Podcast by Rich Birch

April 30, 2026 · 33 min

About this episode

Ronee de Leon discusses how churches can transform data into actionable insights for effective discipleship.

Welcome back to another episode of the unSeminary podcast. Today we’re joined by Ronee de Leon , Executive Director of Partner Church Success at TouchPoint Software . With nearly two decades of ministry experience and now serving churches across the country, Ronee brings a unique perspective at the intersection of systems, strategy, and shepherding. Are you relying on attendance and giving numbers to understand your church? Wondering how to actually “see” your people as your church grows more complex? Ronee shares a practical framework for turning data into meaningful ministry action. You can’t shepherd what you can’t see. // One of the biggest challenges Ronee sees across churches is a lack of visibility. While most churches are passionate about reaching people, many rely on high-level metrics—attendance and giving—that only tell part of the story. As churches grow (especially beyond 300 people), intuitive leadership alone is no longer enough. Leaders can’t be in every room, and without deeper insight, they miss critical moments in people’s lives. The result is a gap between what leaders think is happening and what’s actually happening in people’s spiritual journeys. From data…

People in this episode

Host: Rich Birch

Guest: Ronee de Leon

Topics covered

  • data
  • discipleship
  • church growth
  • leadership
  • ministry strategy

Keywords

  • data
  • discipleship
  • church leadership
  • attendance
  • giving
  • ministry action
  • spiritual journeys

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Organizations: TouchPoint Software

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