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054: Deep Dive with Kate Separovich: Why Nobody Saw Your Film at the Cinema
Apr 27, 2026
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053: Deep Dive with Katrina Irawati Graham: Who Gets to be Safe in our Industry?
Apr 20, 2026
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052: Deep Dive with Karina Libbey: Make Films for People, Not Festivals
Apr 13, 2026
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051: Deep Dive with David Court: Right-Sizing Your Screen Production Business
Apr 6, 2026
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049: Deep Dive with Pauline Chan: The Business Case for Microdramas
Mar 23, 2026
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| 4/27/26 | 054: Deep Dive with Kate Separovich: Why Nobody Saw Your Film at the Cinema | ** We’re postponing our regular monthly wrap-up episode to next week so that we can cover all of the conversations and discussion from Screen Forever. If you’ll be with us on the Gold Coast, make sure you say hello! **In this episode, Aven Yap chats to Kate Separovich, Producer at Lake Martin Films and creator of the Australia in Cinemas newsletter that dives into Australian box office numbers and the current situation for Australian films in Australian cinemas.(If you haven’t already subscribed, it’s a must read!) https://australiaincinemas.substack.comKate has just produced and released Proclivitas, written and directed by Miley Tunnecliffe, and shares some of her experience releasing the film, as well as what actually needs to change if we want Australian films to thrive in Australian cinemas.With the National Cultural Policy Review coming up, this conversation couldn’t be more timely.---Listen to hear Kate discuss:Why box office data is important for producersUnderstanding audience engagementCinemas as cultural infrastructure and their role in supporting Australian filmsFrance’s model for supporting local filmsWhy awareness, availability and habit all matter when ensuring Australian films get seen in cinemasThe upcoming National Cultural Policy review and why it’s importantInsights from producing ProclivitasWhat you can do to support Australian filmsListen to Episode 53 on Spotify, YouTube or Apple Podcasts.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe & leave a rating or review to help us reach more listeners for We Interrupt This Broadcast.Make your own submission to the new National Cultural Policy: https://www.arts.gov.au/have-your-say/new-national-cultural-policyFollow Kate and her work:Kate on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kateseparovichLake Martin Films: https://lakemartinfilms.comAustralia in Cinemas newsletter: https://australiaincinemas.substack.comProclivitas trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtgkX5oHCVIThis Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Aven Yap. https://www.linkedin.com/in/avenyapIf you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/weinterruptpodcastYouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/ @weinterruptpodcast LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/weinterruptpodcastDon’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox. | — | ||||||
| 4/20/26 | 053: Deep Dive with Katrina Irawati Graham: Who Gets to be Safe in our Industry? | In this episode, Loani Arman speaks with Katrina Irawati Graham, co-director of the Stan series Bali 2002, about cultural safety in the screen industry - what it looks like in practice, and who is safe.They explore how cultural safety is shaped by systems of racism and power embedded in screen production, why racial literacy is necessary to recognise harm, and how harm is dangerously normalised in everyday industry practice.They also examine what it would take to move towards genuine cultural safety as a human right for all, grounded in collective responsibility, accountability, and care across the screen production pipeline.Listen to hear Katrina discuss:Cultural safety as a human rightThe impact of cultural safety on productionsWhy racial literacy is importantWhy cultural safety is a shared responsibility, and what you can doImplementing Cultural Safety PlansIf you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe & leave a rating or review to help us reach more listeners for We Interrupt This Broadcast.Further information after listening to the episode:Dear White Screen Industry: https://www.screenhub.com.au/news/opinions-analysis/dear-white-screen-industry-261832-1429042/Birthing and Justice with Dr Ruth De Souza: https://www.ruthdesouza.com/podcast/Deb Verhoeven’s Australian film industry producer networks diagram https://debverhoeven.com/women-arent-the-problem-in-the-film-industry-men-areSuara Indonesia Dance: https://suara.danceDiversity in Australian Media Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/share/g/14c8LNNKYXU/Follow Katrina and her work:Katrina on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katrina-irawati-graham-2299122/Katrina’s Biography: https://www.bmegonline.com/screenwriters/katrina-iriwati-grahamWatch Bali 2002 on Stan https://www.stan.com.au/watch/bali-2002This Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Loani Arman.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 4/13/26 | 052: Deep Dive with Karina Libbey: Make Films for People, Not Festivals | In this episode, Robbie chats to Karina Libbey, screen culture specialist and festival director of the Capital Film Festival about what festival curation and audience engagement looks like from a programmer's perspective.They discuss what filmmakers may not know about how to engage with festivals, how a festival entry should read like a resume for your film, and the more you know about your audience the easier it is to program and market your film.Listen to hear Karina discuss:Audience-first programming as a guiding philosophyDefining, building, and challenging a festival audienceProgramming as curation, not just selectionThe role of trust in shaping audience behaviourWhy great films don’t always make the programWhy filmmakers must know who their film is for (and who it isn’t for)The unique power of shared cinema experiencesIf you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe & leave a rating or review to help us reach more listeners for We Interrupt This Broadcast.Follow Karina and her work: https://www.karinalibbey.com.au This Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Robbie Miles.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating or review, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 4/6/26 | 051: Deep Dive with David Court: Right-Sizing Your Screen Production Business | In this episode, Kirsty chats to David Court, founder of Compton School, about how to right-size your screen business in the current Australian production landscape.They discuss why it’s important to take a step back and consider the way your business is structured, and the advantages and disadvantages of ‘going big’ vs. ‘going small.’ Listen to hear David discuss:Industry shifts, and where we currently sit in the market cycleGuiding principles for producers when considering the size of your companySmall vs. large business modelsCreating engagement in the marketplaceThe importance of momentum in getting your projects financedFinancing challenges in the industryExploring the value of your intellectual propertyThe need for private capital in productionListen to Episode 51 on Spotify, YouTube or Apple Podcasts.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe & leave a rating or review to help us reach more listeners for We Interrupt This Broadcast.Follow David and his work:Compton School: https://compton.school David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-court-058965/Episode 23 of We Interrupt This Broadcast: Mentoring Can Change the Shape of our Industry, with David Court and Julie Eckersley: https://www.weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au/episodes?grid1-dialog=recGSZhWj4oxIhvrZThis Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 3/23/26 | 049: Deep Dive with Pauline Chan: The Business Case for Microdramas | In this episode, Aven chats to Pauline Chan, an award-winning director, writer, and producer with a storied career spanning art-house cinema and international productions, featuring talent such as Jackie Chan, Nicole Kidman and Cate Blanchett.She famously made history by mounting the first two Australia-China official treaty co-productions, and over the past two years has been actively producing vertical series with titles including Divorced to be the Top Heiress for ShortMax and Alpha King, Your Pregnant Luna Escaped for NetShort.Aven and Pauline discuss the business model and production structure Pauline uses on these series, how they fit into her production company’s overall remit, and the ways they might be filling a gap in talent development, providing opportunities for emerging crew.Listen to hear Pauline discuss:How much audiences are paying to subscribe to a microdramaWhy the market for microdramas can be lucrative compared to film or televisionThe structure Pauline’s team puts in place for production and post, to make lower budgets work on their vertical seriesHow vertical series can support emerging talentWhy it makes sense to produce microdramas in AustraliaBuilding cliffhangers into each 1-3 minute episodeThe difference between producing microdramas and working in production servicingPauline’s Big Idea to shape the future of the industryListen to Episode 49 on Spotify, YouTube or Apple Podcasts.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe & leave a rating or review to help us reach more listeners for We Interrupt This Broadcast.Follow Pauline and her work:Pauline on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pauline-chan-b041b540Pauline on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1298625Roaring Pictures: https://roaringpictures.com.auRoaring Pictures Productions: https://roaringpictures.com.au/#productionsThis Deep Dive interview is hosted by Aven Yap and edited by Aven and Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram, YouTube or LinkedIn.Don’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox. | — | ||||||
| 3/16/26 | 048: Deep Dive with Hannah Diviney: Advocacy Through Storytelling and Visibility | In this episode, Loani chats to Hannah Diviney, an author, screenwriter, actor, disability advocate, and media personality who isn’t afraid to call out big names and big systems.Hannah gained international attention for a 2020 petition demanding Disney create its first princess with a disability AND for calling out ableist lyrics in songs by Lizzo and Beyonce - which saw each artist change their lyrics.Her debut essay collection, I’ll Let Myself In, was published in 2023, and she was named Advocate of the Year at Marie Claire Australia’s 2023 Women of the Year Awards.Loani and Hannah chat about how Hannah made Australian TV history as the first disabled person to appear in a sex scene in the SBS Digital Original series Latecomers, and how she’s developing her own screen projects that put romance and representation front and centre.Listen to hear Hannah discuss:The importance of representing disabled characters as full humans on screenHow her advocacy and storytelling are intertwinedPetitioning Disney, and calling out Lizzo and Beyonce for their ableist lyricsJacob Elordi calling her beautifulDisabled representation and desirability in romanceHow the industry (and you!) can support and advocate for more unheard storiesHer big idea to shape the industryFollow Hannah and her work:Hannah on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannahthewildflowerHannah on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hannah-diviney-464239a4Hannah’s published essay collection, I’ll Let Myself In: https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Hannah-Diviney-I’ll-Let-Myself-In-9781761069710Jacob Elordi told me I looked beautiful?! https://www.instagram.com/p/DUtp4qBk9NRLatecomers on SBS on Demand: https://www.sbs.com.au/ondemand/tv-series/latecomersAudrey trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgMNlAC6GjwThis Deep Dive interview is hosted by Loani Arman and edited by Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Search all past episodes and read our guests' big ideas to shape the future of the screen industry at https://weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.auFollow us on: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/weinterruptpodcastLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/weinterruptpodcastDon’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox: https://weinterruptthisbroadcast.substack.com | — | ||||||
| 3/9/26 | 047: Deep Dive with Leela Varghese: The Afterlife of Your Film is the Most Important Part | In this episode, Kirsty chats to Leela Varghese, a writer and director, most recently of Lesbian Space Princess, which she co-wrote and co-directed with Emma Hough Hobbs, winning Best Indie Film at the AACTA Awards and the Teddy Award for Best Feature at Berlinale. Leela also wrote and directed the short film I’m the Most Racist Person I Know, which won the Special Jury Award at SXSW and the AACTA Award for Best Short Film.Kirsty and Leela discuss her career trajectory, including the strategies she applied on both recent films to try to build her profile as a director.Listen to hear Leela discuss:strategically aligning project ideas with grant criteria or historical festival programming to give them the best chance of successthe importance of building relationships with festival programmershow bold titles have played a role in her films’ success, and the way they’ve been seen by audiencesworking with distributors and sales agents as part of your festival strategythe relevance of film festivals in an age of social media and streaminghow to pivot and give your project the best chance of market success, while holding onto your creative vision why you should be thinking about distribution as you develop your projectsFollow Leela and her work:Leela on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leelavargoose Lesbian Space Princess: https://lesbianspaceprincessmovie.comLesbian Space Princess on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lesbianspaceprincessfilmLesbian Space Princess: Official Trailer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nra14aUNYS8This Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInDon’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox. | — | ||||||
| 3/2/26 | 046: Deep Dive with Alexander Jeffery: Making Low Budget Indies Outside of Hollywood | In this episode, Robbie chats to Alexander Jeffery, a filmmaker based in Shreveport, Louisiana, where he co-owns production company Bespoke Works LLC with his friend and longtime collaborator, Paul Petersen.After moving to Los Angeles to pursue his dreams of acting and filmmaking, Alexander returned to the south to make low-budget, independent films with his friends, including his short film The Bespoke Tailoring of Mister Bellamy, which won the $50,000 Grand Prize at the Louisiana Film Prize, and his first feature, A Chance Encounter, which was released by Samuel Goldwyn Films after winning the audience choice award at Heartland Film Festival.Robbie and Alexander discuss the pros and cons of working outside a major film and television hub, and how he has built a sustainable career as an independent filmmaker. Listen to hear Alexander discuss:his reasons for choosing to work outside of LAwhat makes his projects resonate with an audiencehow to gain an insight into filmmaking trends as a screener for film festivalswhy creating work within a collaborative community can be an advantagehis strategy for creating profitable indie filmshow to find distribution and get your projects in front of an audiencehis new experiments in independent TVwhy low budgets are sometimes bestListen to Episode 46 on Spotify, YouTube or Apple Podcasts.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe & leave a rating or review to help us reach more listeners for We Interrupt This Broadcast.Follow Alexander and his work:Alexander on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexanderjefferyAlexander on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexanderjefferyAlexander on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@alexanderjefferyBespoke Works LLC website: https://bespokeworksllc.comThis Deep Dive interview is hosted by Robbie Miles and edited by Robbie Miles and Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInDon’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox.https://www.weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au | — | ||||||
| 2/16/26 | 044: Deep Dive with Fiona Kelly: Building a Career as a Screenwriter | In this episode, Kirsty chats to screenwriter, story producer and script editor Fiona Kelly, about her 30 years’ experience writing for Australian television.Fiona has over 280 episodes of Australian drama to her name on shows including Home and Away, All Saints, Sea Patrol, and recently Scrublands Silver S2 and NCIS Sydney S3.Fiona shares her journey as a screenwriter from her early days to returning to study through a Master of Arts in Screen Business at AFTRS, including her tips for those wanting to forge a writing career today.Listen to hear Fiona discuss:Her initial journey into screenwritingThe changing landscape of televisionThe difference between a writer, story producer and script editorWhy she decided to pursue further studyThe Master of Arts in Screen Business at AFTRSAdvice for aspiring screenwritersHer big idea to change the shape of the industryListen to Episode 44 on Spotify, YouTube or Apple Podcasts.If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe & leave a rating or review to help the show find more listeners.Follow Fiona and her work:Fiona on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fiona-kelly-16002056 Fiona on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1282210If you’re interested in the Master of Arts Screen: Business at AFTRS, applications for the 2026 mid-year cohort (commencing August this year) are open now, until the 2nd of June. Designed for a new generation of screen leaders, AFTRS’ Master of Arts Screen: Business is Australia’s foremost creative screen business course. You can find out more at the links below:https://www.aftrs.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/MASB-Course-Guide-2025.pdfhttps://www.aftrs.edu.au/award-course/master-of-arts-screen-business/This Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInThis episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Head to aftrs.edu.au to find your course and enrol.Don’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox. | — | ||||||
| 2/9/26 | 043: Deep Dive with Sophie Hyde: Creating Intimacy on Set and on Screen | In this episode, Kirsty chats to Director, Writer & Producer Sophie Hyde, whose work includes 52 Tuesdays, Animals, Good Luck to You Leo Grande and Jimpa. Sophie shares insights into her process of collaborating with cast and crew, including internationally renowned performers like Emma Thompson, Alia Shawkat, Olivia Colman and John Lithgow. ---Listen to hear Sophie discuss:How she started as a director, and why it felt like the right role for herThe way she balances writing, directing and producing across her projectsThemes of freedom and intimacy across her projectsThe process of casting A list actorsSome of the ways she builds trust with cast and crewHow the body can serve as a way to access greater intimacy in storytellingCreating a supportive and collaborative culture on setHer big idea to shape the future of the industryFollow Sophie and her work:Sophie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sophhydeCloser Productions: https://closerproductions.com.auJimpa (in Australian cinemas from February 19th):https://www.instagram.com/jimpa_filmTrailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LucqCU5y_-8This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark and edited by Brandon Boyer and Kirsty Stark.This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Head to aftrs.edu.au to find the right course for you.Join the conversation about Episode 43 on Instagram and LinkedIn, or submit your own Big Idea to shape the industry at http://weinterruptthisbroadcast.com.au.Have industry news, upcoming events or productions to share? Want to sponsor the podcast? Let us know at weinterruptpod@gmail.comIf you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Don’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox. | — | ||||||
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| 2/2/26 | 042: Deep Dive with Dan Fahy: Make Your TV Series More Favourable to Buyers | In this episode, Kirsty chats to Screen industry consultant Dan Fahy about the evolving global marketplace for television, focusing on revenue trends, the importance of community, and the impact of data analysis on content creation.Dan outlines the opportunities for producers in a changing market with an emphasis on adaptability and innovation.Plus, the five realities buyers are facing that you should check your content against if you’re involved in the creation of stories.Listen to hear Dan discuss:His work for Paramount, BBC Studios and Nine, and why data analysis is crucial for understanding market trends.The slowing in revenue, leakage of revenue and concentration of revenue that are affecting content buyers globally.How children’s content presents great opportunities that we aren’t capitalising on in Australia.The five ways producers can adapt to make their content more favourable to buyers.Why the future of the industry relies on innovation and adaptability.Follow Dan on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danfahy100 This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark and edited by Brandon Boyer and Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInThis episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Head to aftrs.edu.au to find your course and enrol. | — | ||||||
| 12/8/25 | 040: Deep Dive Q&A with Daren Smith: Managing Uncertainty as an Indie Film Producer | In this episode, Producer Daren Smith returns to share more about his production fund for independent features. Daren was previously a guest on Episode 34 and is back to answer all of the questions you submitted after listening to the episode.He shares insights on marketing, building relationships with investors and understanding market needs, how each film's finance structure works, and how to manage the uncertainty of the industry.---This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.---Listen to hear Daren discuss:Brotherhood: A Cinematic Musical, the first film being greenlit under Producer Fund 1why you need to start marketing on Day 1finance plans for independent films, and why they shouldn't be 100% equitywhy he's chosen to release his films theatricallyhow to reach out to investors and the importance of continued outreach over timetracking progress and analysing your numbersFollow Daren and his work:Daren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darentsmithDaren on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2743912Craftsman Films: https://www.craftsmanfilms.coGet your free copy of Daren's book, Blockbuster: https://www.craftsmanfilms.co/blockbuster Follow Brotherhood - Producer Fund One's first film:https://newsletter.craftsmanfilms.co/posts/brotherhood-update-composer-sessions-social-media-now-liveInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/brotherhoodmusical/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@brotherhoodmusicalYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BrotherhoodMusicalSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/2qxWEdMELDtPnr5qvq7Rsq This Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 12/1/25 | 039: Deep Dive with Enzo Tedeschi: Sustaining an Indie Film Business Through Innovation | In this episode, Kirsty chats to Enzo Tedeschi, a director, producer, and writer at Deadhouse Films, and how he’s sustained a thriving indie production company through significant industry changes.Enzo has often been at the forefront of experimental production models made possible through changes in technology, from his early crowdfunded feature film The Tunnel, which now has an audience of over 25 million, to work across genre projects and documentary. He discusses audience building, the differences in audience building between documentary and narrative projects, evolving business models and the role of technology in shaping the future of indie filmmaking.Listen to hear Enzo discuss:How the traditional industry prevented Enzo and his team from their planned distribution rollout for The TunnelWhy crowdfunding isn’t the right move for 90% of projectsHow to cast a project in a way that increases its likely pathway to audienceThe importance of recognising - and leveraging - the story behind your projectHow Enzo is using AI on his latest project And much more!Follow Enzo and his work:Enzo Tedeschi on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/enzo-tedeschiEnzo Tedeschi on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/enzotedeschiDeadhouse TV on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/deadhousetvEnzo’s website: https://www.enzotedeschi.com.auDeadhouse Films: https://www.deadhousefilms.comThe Tunnel: https://www.thetunnelmovie.netThis Deep Dive interview is hosted and edited by Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInThis episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol.Don’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox. | — | ||||||
| 11/24/25 | 038: Deep Dive with Keith Quinn: Using Data to Power Your Creator Business | In this episode, Julie Eckersley dives into the fast-evolving world of the creator economy with Keith Quinn, founder of Engine Room - a new kind of studio helping independent creators turn their data into strategy, growth, and sustainable income.Keith’s career has spanned 25 years at the intersection of entertainment, digital innovation, and entrepreneurship. From Project Greenlight with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, to running Paramount’s original digital content division, he’s watched the media landscape expand, contract, and re-invent itself multiple times.Now, with Engine Room, Keith is giving creators the kind of analytical and financial support once reserved for Hollywood studios. He explains how data can empower creative growth, why YouTube has quietly become the biggest player on TV screens, and what the next five years hold for creators, streamers, and the screen industry at large.Listen to hear Keith discuss:The evolution of entertainment: From the streaming boom to the rise of independent, open-platform creators.The creator economy as small business: Why data and audience insight are the new creative superpowers.Inside Engine Room: How the company helps creators understand and act on their analytics - with real examples of how simple insights doubled reach and revenue.The new model for creator growth: Subscription tools, sponsorship data, and how Engine Room connects like-minded creators to help build ‘creative clusters’ to leverage their successPlus: Keith’s big idea to change the future of our industryFollow Keith and his work:Keith Quinn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/quinnkeith/Engine Room: https://www.engineroom.com.auThis Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley and edited by Brandon Boyer.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInThis episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code SUMMER2026 for a 15% discount on all summer short courses. Head to aftrs.edu.au/shortcourses to find your course and enrol. | — | ||||||
| 11/10/25 | 036: Deep Dive with Amelia Darmawan: Go Direct to Audience & Maximise Your Existing IP | * Could you be our next We Interrupt This Broadcast co-host? *Read more and fill out an EOI here: https://forms.gle/oQgAoJXgnQpejfej9In this episode, Julie Eckersley chats to Amelia Darmawan, Co-Founder and Executive Producer at Totem, a company that’s quietly reimagining what a digital-first entertainment business can be.The company designs next-gen content businesses for media companies, brands, and creators, helping great IP reach millions more online.As Director of Strategy & Content, Amelia helps drive innovation across original content, revenue expansion, brand partnerships, and AI-powered workflows.She shares some of what she’s learnt while shaping the next generation of entertainment brands. Listen to hear Amelia discuss:The shift she’s seen across the screen and creative industries over the last 10 yearsHow the benefits can go both ways as we move into true collaborations between traditional media creators and the creatorsphereHow to maximise your IP and reach new audiences onlineHow to understand and work with the algorithmsThe importance of staying nimble as things continue to change and evolveFollow Amelia and her work:Amelia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amelia-darmawan-8a5b2541 Totem: www.totem.globalBondi Rescue on YouTube: www.youtube.com/bondirescueTwisted Lunchbox on YouTube: www.youtube.com/twistedlunchboxPeking Duck on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pekingduk Try Guys on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tryguys This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley and edited by Brandon Boyer.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInThis episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year. | — | ||||||
| 11/3/25 | 035: Deep Dive with Farhad Meher-Homji: Your Content Strategy Should Drive Your Creator Business | Could you be our next We Interrupt This Broadcast co-host? Read more and fill out an EOI here: https://forms.gle/oQgAoJXgnQpejfej9---What does it take to build a thriving, sustainable creative business in the new media landscape?In this episode, Julie Eckersley dives into the fast-evolving world of digital creators with Farhad Meher-Homji, Co-Founder and Head of Strategy at Changer Studios - an organisation that’s helped tens of thousands of creators in over 40 countries turn passion into profession.Farhad breaks down how the creator economy has matured from the fringes of entertainment into a powerful mainstream force and why the smartest creators now think like entrepreneurs. He unpacks how to build a content strategy that actually works, how to read audience data beyond the vanity of subscriber counts, and why psychographics - understanding why your audience connects - is the secret weapon of modern storytelling.---This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year. https://www.aftrs.edu.au/---Listen to hear Farhad discuss:The shift from attention as a metric to attention as a business modelHow creators are turning audiences into communities, and communities into media businessesWhy “audience ownership” is a key step for long-term sustainabilityWhat burnout looks like in the creator economy, and how to build for longevityHow authenticity, not production value, is now the ultimate marker of qualityThe rise of “human-led, AI-assisted” creativity, and the value of real human connectionFollow Farhad and his work:Farhad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/farhadmh/Changer Studios: https://www.changerstudios.comChanger on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/changerstudios-----This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley and edited by Brandon Boyer and Kirsty Stark.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn---This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year. https://www.aftrs.edu.au/ | — | ||||||
| 10/27/25 | 034: Deep Dive with Daren Smith: Inventing a New Financing Model for Indie Features | In this episode, Kirsty talks to Daren Smith of Craftsman Films, a Utah-based independent producer with four features and multiple seasons of TV under his belt. Daren shares how he set up Craftsman Films, as an independent studio, and the new $10 million dollar film fund he’s raising, with the goal of producing ten profitable “blockbuster indies.”He also discusses the challenges of independent filmmaking, including financing, development and distribution, and how he’s addressing these issues through a new model inspired by venture capital structures.---This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year.---Listen to hear Daren discuss:The five key challenges of independent filmmakingCraftsman Films’ new model for indie film financingHow to approach a pitch so that private investors will listenThe importance of building your personal brandHow reaching out on LinkedIn beats cold emailingWhy it’s important for a film fund to have a clear thesisThe difference between asking ‘what’ questions and ‘why’ questionsFollow Daren and his work:Daren on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/darentsmithDaren on IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2743912Craftsman Films: https://www.craftsmanfilms.coGet your free copy of Blockbuster: https://www.craftsmanfilms.co/blockbuster ---This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark and edited by Brandon Boyer.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn---This episode is sponsored by AFTRS, the Australian Film, Television and Radio School. Use the code INTENSIVE2025 for a 20% discount on all “intensive” courses until the end of the year. | — | ||||||
| 10/13/25 | 032: Deep Dive with Nicholas Colla: Planning a Smarter Production Workflow in Pre | In this episode, Kirsty talks to Creative Producer Nicholas Colla from LateNite Films in Melbourne about how he and his business partner Chris Hocking have built a slate of work that balances great storytelling with highly accomplished VFX and animation.Nick shares their approach to production, including integrating post production workflows and using technology in their planning and development process, plus the lessons they've brought into live action from their animation work.Listen to hear Nick discuss:Why planning in pre-production is crucial when making ambitious projects on lower budgetsHow LateNite approached Wizards of Oz and its 1200 VFX shotsThe technology that can assist with planning your shoot with a small team in development and preThe lessons LateNite has taken from animation into their live action workWhy the Australian screen industry needs to rethink development.Follow Nick and his work:LateNite Films: https://latenitefilms.com/Nick on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-colla-07865790Nick on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nickcollaLateNite on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@latenitefilmsRebooted: https://youtu.be/1Rkn6rnsgc4?si=MI_iKFy2-KjREu1FThe Wizards of Aus: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJSMFXYSojXotCa_NrjYM54ICmSmmCygg&si=Za3YlDg327mjyycRThe Future of Everything: https://youtu.be/cD2jXqBFaIQ?si=oLo32b-jNjm-yjevDeadbeat Ends Meet: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJaZsLppUqpzk4tjJxcnBJunVHITREyTz&si=2xp5r9TkDpH1M69hVideo reference in the episode: I Am Mother VR Storyboarding: https://youtu.be/M4Xy9vvpLvE?si=L6ovF7pmv99c0273This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark, and proudly brought to you by CrewHQ & Expanding Media.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInDon’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox. | — | ||||||
| 10/6/25 | 031: Deep Dive with Steve Jaggi: Audience Demand is Shaping New Production Models | In this episode, Julie talks to prolific producer Steve Jaggi, founder of Jaggi Entertainment, about how he has built one of Australia’s busiest independent studios. Steve unpacks his cradle-to-grave business model - spanning development, financing, production, post, VFX and distribution - and why being relentlessly audience-focused has been key to his global success.He shares candid insights into why legacy systems are struggling, how micro dramas and influencer-led casting are reshaping the industry, and why Australian producers must urgently rethink cost structures and audience engagement. Steve also reflects on AI, direct-to-consumer models, and what kind of leadership is needed to stop the industry’s “slow-moving train” from derailing.Listen to hear Steve discuss:The rise of vertical drama and mobile-first storytelling.Why influencer-driven casting is transforming audience definitions of quality.Rethinking cost, scale and sustainability in production.Preparing for disruption from AI, D2C models, and shifting global power.What kind of leadership the Australian industry needs right now.Follow Jaggi Entertainment:Jaggi Entertainment: https://www.jaggientertainment.com IMDb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1863720You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/@jaggi_entertainmentInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaggi_entertainmentFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/jaggientertainmentLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/jaggientertainment/This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley, and proudly brought to you by CrewHQ & Expanding Media.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInDon’t forget to subscribe & get weekly episodes in your inbox. | — | ||||||
| 9/29/25 | 030: Deep Dive with Clayton Jacobson: Reimagining Filmmaking with AI Workflows | In this episode, Julie talks to award-winning filmmaker Clayton Jacobson, best known for Kenny, about his pioneering work with AI in film. Clayton shares how AI is helping him bypass traditional gatekeepers, transform creative workflows, and unlock decades of unrealised ideas. He speaks candidly about the opportunities and challenges of this rapidly evolving technology, how it can democratise creativity, and why he believes it will change the way we make and experience stories.Listen to hear Clayton discuss:How AI is transforming filmmaking and creative workflows.The future of storytelling beyond traditional gatekeepers.Iterative creative processes using AI tools.Rethinking collaboration, production, and budgets in screen content.The broader cultural impact of AI on creativity and human connection.Follow Clayton and his work:LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/clayton-jacobson-13453841Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/clayton.jacobson.79Youtube (portfolio): https://www.www.youtube.com/@GUNSHYCOWBOYS-285Escape AI: https://escape.ai/profile/gunshycowboys285 Dreamscreen Australia: https://www.dreamscreenaustralia.com/This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley, and proudly brought to you by CrewHQ & Expanding Media.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 9/22/25 | 029: Deep Dive with Lee Naimo: Building Sustainable Online Models for Screen Businesses | In this episode, Julie Eckersley talks to Lee Naimo, Head of Creative for Grouse House at Haven’t You Done Well Productions, about the growth of online screen businesses in Australia and how to build a sustainable business model that works for you and your audience.Previously managing the Online and Games Unit at Screen Australia, Lee worked with Australian producers, writers, directors and gamemakers to elevate their projects and careers, and has great insight into how they’re succeeding in the marketplace.Even for those companies working in traditional media, online opportunities will need to make up at least one component of your future business strategy, so this is an episode not to miss!Listen to hear Lee discuss:The evolution of online content in AustraliaInnovative companies in the online spaceHow Grouse House is building opportunities for comedians to get their work in front of audiencesHow revenue stacking leads to sustainable business modelsWhy you should repurpose your existing content to find new audiencesWhat’s happening in the games space in AustraliaPlus, his big idea for the Australian industryFollow Lee, Grouse House and their work:Haven’t You Done Well’s website: https://www.haventyoudonewell.com Grouse House’s website: https://www.haventyoudonewell.com/grouse-houseGrouse House on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNuaFLcbAeycQAIAW5s7T0QLee Naimo on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lee-naimo-689084233This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark, and proudly brought to you by CrewHQ & Expanding Media.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 9/8/25 | 027: Deep Dive with Jonathon Dutton: Bullying and Burnout are Pushing People Out of the Industry | In this episode, Kirsty Stark talks to Jonathon Dutton, Managing Partner of Screen Well, about mental health and wellbeing in the Australian screen industry.Screen Well's mission is to improve the mental health and wellbeing outcomes of the Australian Screen industry - not an easy task when their recent survey in partnership with Griffith University found that 25% of our workforce is looking to leave the industry within the next 6 months!This is a must-listen episode for anyone wanting to better look after our people - on an individual, production / workplace and industry-wide level. Listen to hear Jonathon discuss:The structural challenges in our industry that make wellbeing so much harder to maintainWhat you can do to manage your own mental health and wellbeing, or 'put your own life jacket on first.'How Town Hall meetings on productions can help to shift the culture on set and make policies 'real.'Mental Health First Aid Training and the impact it makes when people are trained across a production.Why you should have the Support Act number on your callsheets.Psychosocial safety, and your responsibility as an employer under new legislation.Screen Well's Mental Health Summit, and upcoming Mental Health Action PlanFollow Screen Well and their work:Screen Well's website: https://www.screenwell.com.auPsychosocial Safety training: https://www.screenwell.com.au/creative-workplaces Mental Health First Aid training: https://www.screenwell.com.au/mhfa-training Screen Well on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/screenwell.com.auJonathon Dutton on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathon-duttonBonus:Support Act (put this info on your callsheet!): https://supportact.org.au/individual-support/wellbeing-helplineThis Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark, and proudly brought to you by CrewHQ & Expanding Media.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 9/1/25 | 026: Deep Dive with Sam Jockel: Why You Shouldn't Just Hand Your Film to a Distributor | In this episode, Kirsty Stark talks to Sam Jockel, Producer of Australian parenting documentary Seen, which has reached over 30,000 audience members and gone into profit within 4 months of release.Sam comes from outside the film industry, as a serial entrepreneur with expertise in community building across multiple businesses. Seen is her first feature film, and she used her business background to build a hybrid release model, working with distributor Bonsai Films.This is a must-listen episode for anyone interested in building audiences and community around a project. Sam openly shares her experience, including how difficult the process was, and whether it was worth it to challenge the norms of distribution.Listen to hear Sam discuss:Why someone needs to be working on audience building from the moment a film is conceivedHow much she raised at the film’s first fundraising event, and why it was so importantHer choice to build a distribution plan around community screenings, instead of targeting individual ticket salesHer initial reaction to the distribution models she was presented withThe difficulty of managing an impact campaign alone, and whether it was worth itHow Seen planned and managed their release, including the tools and platforms they used, how they ran events and the benefit of their websiteWhat she would pitch to the film industry as an outsider, to make it better for everyoneSam Jockel is an award-winning entrepreneur and content producer with over 15 years of experience, known for founding ParentTV, an innovative parenting platform, and building ALDI Mum and School Mum, online communities with over 650,000 members. Recognised by the World Summit Awards Globally winning the Learning and Education category for the Quality Education SDG, she has also taken on the role of producer tackling the tricky topic of parenting in modern times with the recently released documentary Seen.Follow Sam and her work:Seen’s official website: https://seenthefilm.comSeen Resources: https://seentheresources.comSeen on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seendocumentarySam Jockel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samjockelParentTV: https://parenttv.comYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ParentTVOfficial Trailer:This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark, and proudly brought to you by CrewHQ & Expanding Media.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 8/25/25 | 025: Deep Dive with Sam Jennings: Developing the Next Generation of Feature Directors | In this episode, Kirsty Stark talks to Samantha Jennings, Producer at Causeway Films - whose credits include Talk to Me, Cargo, Buoyancy and Of An Age.Sam breaks down the commitment that she and fellow Causeway producer Kristina Ceyton have to nurturing new Australian talent, and supporting them to direct internationally successful feature films.From the importance of authenticity in storytelling to the common traits amongst the diverse group of feature directors that Causeway has worked with, Sam’s advice is invaluable for anyone looking to build a career as a director in the screen industry.Key Takeaways:The importance of building relationships over timeHow to approach casting and packaging for featuresThe ideal budgets for feature films that Causeway will look to take onThe detail to which the directors they work with understand the audiences for their projectsWhy proof of concept shorts aren’t always the best pathway to directing featuresWhy you should build your own community of collaboratorsWhy the Australian industry needs to invest in building our next generation of cinemagoersSamantha Jennings and Kristina Ceyton co-founded Causeway Films with globally acclaimed THE BABADOOK in 2014, and produced Jennifer Kent’s follow up THE NIGHTINGALE. Causeway has launched many debuts on the global stage over the last decade, including Netflix Original CARGO starring Martin Freeman, Berlinale prize winner BUOYANCY by Rodd Rathjen, and Goran Stolevski’s YOU WON’T BE ALONE, OF AN AGE and HOUSEKEEPING FOR BEGINNERS, all released by Focus Features. In 2023, Causeway premiered Danny and Michael Philippou’s TALK TO ME at Sundance, which went onto become A24’s highest grossing genre release to date and earn over $140 million international box office. This year saw the release of the Philippous’ sophomore feature BRING HER BACK starring Sally Hawkins, distributed worldwide by A24 and Sony Pictures. Causeway is currently completing Dario Russo’s THE FOX starring Jai Courtenay and Emily Browning, and Adrian Chiarella’s LEVITICUS starring Joe Bird, Stacy Clausen and Mia Wasikowska.Follow Sam and her work:Causeway Films: http://www.causewayfilms.com.auCauseway Films on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/causeway_films Samantha Jennings on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samantha-jennings-89674621/Samantha Jennings on IMDB: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1209992 This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Kirsty Stark, and proudly brought to you by CrewHQ & Expanding Media.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedIn | — | ||||||
| 8/11/25 | 023: Deep Dive with David Court: Mentoring Can Change the Shape of Our Industry | In this episode, Julie Eckersley talks to Dr. David Court - founder of Compton School, and one of the most influential champions of emerging screen talent in Australia.From the early days of his career in finance and policy to his work advising governments, structuring production deals, and founding Australia’s first business school for creatives, David has seen the screen industry from every angle.This is a conversation about the art of mentoring - why it matters, how it shapes the creative community, and the ripple effects it has long after the advice is given.Key Takeaways:Why mentoring is more than just giving advice.Why the wider screen industry not only benefits from but needs mentoring in order to thrive.Key advice for how to approach a mentor.How to make the most of the mentor/mentee relationship.Whether you’re a filmmaker, a creative entrepreneur, or a leader in any field, this conversation is about connection, guidance, and how the creative industries can thrive through structured knowledge transfer between generations.Follow David and his work:Compton School: https://compton.schoolRAINMAKERS: https://compton.school/rainmakers David on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-court-058965/This Deep Dive interview is hosted by Julie Eckersley, and proudly brought to you by CrewHQ & Expanding Media.If you’re enjoying the podcast, please leave a rating on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, and we’d love you to forward this episode to a friend!Follow us on: Instagram | YouTube | LinkedInSubscribe and get weekly episodes in your inbox: https://weinterruptthisbroadcast.substack.com | — | ||||||
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