Wilder Podcast

In this episode of the Wilder Podcast, we sit down with Ben Goldsmith, financier, conservationist, and passionate rewilding advocate, to explore the deeply personal and global dimensions of nature restoration.Ben shares how the tragic loss of his daughter, Iris, became the catalyst for rewilding his Somerset farm, transforming grief into a living love letter to her wild spirit. We also explore his belief in the healing power of nature, both for individuals and for landscapes, and why reconnecting young people with the natural world is one of the greatest challenges of our time.From there, we broaden the lens to global rewilding projects and the emerging role of nature credits, from carbon and biodiversity credits to water quality markets, in funding large-scale ecological recovery. Ben explains the opportunities, risks, and integrity challenges of these markets, and why, despite their imperfections, they may be one of the most powerful tools available to scale restoration at speed.Key TakeawaysHow the loss of Ben’s daughter Iris inspired his family’s rewilding journey.The healing role of nature in times of deep grief.Why rewilding can happen on any scale, from a window box to thousands of acres.The promise and pitfalls of nature credits, from carbon markets to biodiversity net gain.Why reconnecting young people with nature is essential for our collective future.How hope, optimism, and pragmatic financing can fuel a wilder world.Timestamps00:00 – Weather, drought, and the Grange Project’s changing landscape09:30 – Introducing Ben Goldsmith and his lifelong passion for nature16:00 – Rewilding in memory of Iris: grief, love, and transformation27:00 – Nature connection, childhood, and ecological identity33:00 – The return of beavers and winning hearts for rewilding36:00 – Nature credits explained: carbon, water, biodiversity46:00 – Risks, integrity, and scepticism in new nature markets52:00 – The future of Welsh farming and policy courage01:00:00 – Reflections on accountability, funding gaps, and next stepsGuest Bio – Ben GoldsmithBen Goldsmith is an environmentalist, investor, and writer. He chairs the Conservative Environment Network and is the founder of Rewilding the World, a podcast sharing stories of global restoration. His memoir, God is an Octopus, documents his journey through grief and the solace he found in rewilding his Somerset farm after the tragic loss of his daughter Iris. Ben has also worked extensively in green investment, particularly in natural capital and renewable energy, seeking ways to channel finance into large-scale ecological recovery.HostsTom & Chloe Constable are the founders of the Grange Project, an 80-acre rewilding initiative in Monmouthshire, Wales. Through the Wilder Podcast, they document their journey in restoring nature, raising a young family, and exploring the wider rewilding movement with leading voices from around the world.The Wilder PodcastThe Wilder Podcast explores the people, ideas, and projects driving the rewilding movement. From family farms to global landscapes, we share honest conversations about restoring nature, finding hope, and building a wilder future.Connect with Us🌱 Visit the Grange Project: www.grangeproject.co.uk🌿 Follow on Instagram: @grangeprojectwales🎧 Subscribe to the Wilder Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts

SummaryIn this episode of The Wilder Podcast, hosts Chloe and Tom explore the concept of nature connection, discussing its importance for mental health and wellbeing, the barriers that prevent it, and the pathways to rekindling our relationship with the natural world. They explore the significance of understanding nature connection, particularly among adolescents, and stress the need for systemic change to encourage deeper engagement with nature. The conversation underscores the reciprocal relationship between people and the environment, calling for a shift in language and policy to strengthen nature connection across society.Prof Miles Richardson's booksWebsiteThe Blackbird's SongReconnectionNature Connection Research GroupTakeawaysNature connection is vital for mental health and wellbeing.The UK ranks low in both nature connectedness and biodiversity.Urbanisation and technology are major contributors to disconnection from nature.Emotional engagement and education can foster stronger nature connection.Adolescents often experience a notable dip in nature connection during their teenage years.Research shows a strong correlation between nature connection and pro-environmental behaviour.Engaging the senses is a powerful way to deepen nature connection.Community involvement plays a key role in successful nature restoration projects.Nature connection should be seen as a reciprocal relationship.Systemic changes are essential to improving access to nature for everyone.Chapters00:00 – Introduction10:49 – Understanding Nature Connection16:01 – Defining Nature Connection21:25 – Nature Connection and Wellbeing32:55 – Barriers to Nature Connection45:43 – Pathways to Nature Connection50:48 – Engaging Adolescents in Nature Connection55:54 – Reflections and Future Directions

In this episode we speak with the inspirational Jane Davidson, the former government minister who proposed the groundbreaking Wellbeing of Future Generations Act. We discuss how the Act came to be, the influence the legislation has had and why Wales is now being watched by countries around the world looking to follow its lead.Your Hosts:Tom Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Chloe Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-constable-24155821b/Website: https://www.grangeproject.co.ukPodcast Journey Page: https://www.grangeproject.co.uk/wilder-podcast**Community Day Sign-up** https://www.grangeproject.co.uk/volunteers-dayThrivalism Episode: https://www.grangeproject.co.uk/wilder-podcast/ep-038-thrivalism-with-tony-juniper-cbeGrange Project Contact & Social Media:Email: hello@grangeproject.co.ukInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/grange.project/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grangeprojectYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GrangeProjectLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Our Guest: Jane Davidson is an environmentalist, author and international speaker. From 2000 - 2011, Jane was Minister for Education, then Minister for Environment and Sustainability in the Welsh Government, where she proposed legislation to make sustainability the central organising principle; the Wellbeing of Future Generations Act came into law in 2015. She introduced the first plastic bag charge in the UK, and her recycling regulations took Wales to third best in the world.  She created a Climate Change Commission for Wales, the post of Sustainable Futures Commissioner, and the Wales Coast Path.  Website: https://janedavidson.wales/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jane-davidson-24070337/Listen out for:[00:00:00] Tom and Chloe update on the project, including an exciting update about the opening of the Grange Hub.[00:04:17] Jane introduces herself and the rich influences from her background.[00:13:23] We hear about the development of the Wellbeing of Future Generations Act, what it contains and what it means.[00:21:02] Chloe asks about how the act was received at a government level.[00:26:18] Tom questions Jane about examples of policy shifts associated with the act and she shares various examples, for example: universal basic income for care leavers, cessation of major road build projects in Wales and the 20mph speed limit in urban areas.[00:33:30] Jane tells us about how the act gives the government permission to think differently.[00:35:27] Tom asks Jane about the role of communication to all stakeholders around the act and we talk about the role of reframing and humour in this.[00:44:09] We discuss the international response to the wellbeing act.[00:47:54] Tom and Chloe reflect on the interview.Mentioned in this episode:Visit & Stay at the Grange ProjectWould you like to escape the trappings of the modern world and wake-up in the morning to one of the best views in South Wales, where only the birds are noisy? We have two beautiful and sustainably built ‘tiny homes’, carefully located in secluded locations across our 80 acre rewilding project.Visit Grange Project

In this joyful episode to celebrate World Rewilding Day, we take a big picture view as Alister addresses key questions such as ‘what does a rewilded world look like’, ‘how do we get there’ and ‘what are the benefits?’ Amongst a range of topics, we discuss climate stabilisation, eco distress and environmental education, as well as the power of success stories in bringing the necessary energy to ‘take rewilding mainstream’.Your Hosts:Tom Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Chloe Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-constable-24155821b/Website: https://www.grangeproject.co.ukPodcast Journey Page: https://www.grangeproject.co.uk/wilder-podcastGrange Project Contact & Social Media:Email: hello@grangeproject.co.ukInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/grange.project/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grangeprojectYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GrangeProjectLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Our Guests: Alister has been a lifelong environmentalist since the eradication by silage making of the Corncrake where he grew up in the north west of Ireland. The thread of Alister’s career has been to learn how to make big, positive change happen. With a doctorate from the Science Policy Research Unit, University of Sussex, Alister spent 15 years at the interface between science and policy. He has helped to build multiple movements and has supported many catalytic leaders as a trained coach and facilitator. A father of two and widower, Alister loves to get out in nature and the great outdoors. Alister is an Honorary Professor at University College London.Website: https://globalrewilding.earth/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dralisterscott/?originalSubdomain=ukListen out for:[00:00:00] Chloe and Tom provide a brief overview of the Grange Project and introduce the episode.[00:03:20] Alister introduces himself and the global rewilding alliance.[00:11:32] We talk about the stages of the rewilding movement: invention, experimentation, preparing for global scaling, scaling and mainstreaming. [00:19:54] Alister describes what a rewilded world at scale would look like, including changes at an urban scale and to people’s everyday lives.[00:28:36] We question Alister about the connections between rewilding, climate stabilisation and eco distress.[00:35:01] We talk about the power of the concept of rewilding and Tom asks Alister about the steps required to achieve the vision of mainstream rewilding.[00:41:26] Tom questions Alister about one of the oft cited challenges facing rewilding at scale, that of food security.[00:47:19] Chloe asks Alister how we create effective stories outside of the environmental movement.[00:50:55] We discuss the role of education in the rewilding movement.[00:58:40] Tom and Chloe reflect on the interview.Mentioned in this episode:Visit & Stay at the Grange ProjectWould you like to escape the trappings of the modern world and wake-up in the morning to one of the best views in South Wales, where only the birds are noisy? We have two beautiful and sustainably built ‘tiny homes’, carefully located in secluded locations across our 80 acre rewilding project.Visit Grange Project

What does it take to turn a family passion into a powerful force for nature? In this episode of two halves, we start with an update about The Grange Project, including the last 6 months of physical interventions, our evolving business structure, and the latest developments at The Grange Distillery and Studio. We then move into conversation with Helen Neave, co-founder of Make it Wild, where we discuss their purpose of protecting nature across 500 acres in North Yorkshire, using carbon-offsetting and corporate partnerships to create a sustainable financial model.Your Hosts:Tom Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Chloe Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-constable-24155821b/Helpful Links:Website: https://www.grangeproject.co.ukPodcast Journey Page: https://www.grangeproject.co.uk/wilder-podcastGrange Distillery: https://grangedistillery.com/Grange Project Contact & Social Media:Email: hello@grangeproject.co.ukInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/grange.project/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grangeprojectYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GrangeProjectLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Our Guest: Helen Neave, Make it Wild:Helen is a retired surgeon on a mission to change the planet. Alongside her husband, Christopher Neave, they turned their family passion for nature into Make it Wild. With nature reserves across North Yorkshire, they have planted over 80,000 trees, dug ponds, restored wildflower hay meadows, protected ancient woodland and created many different habitats across over 500 acres. Working in partnerships with businesses, whether through carbon-offsetting, team conservation days or natural mindfulness walks, their purpose is to protect nature.Website: https://www.makeitwild.co.uk/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/helen-neave-42200938/Listen out for: [00:00:00] Chloe and Tom describe the structure of the episode, including a brief introduction to our guest, Helen from Make it Wild, and a brief summary of the landscape of the Grange Project.[00:04:06] Chloe leads an update in numbers about the physical interventions that have occurred across the project since September 2024; including trees, brash piles, yellow rattle, the tiny forest and our market garden.  [00:10:35] Tom moves into a conversation about the structure of the Grange Project and the decision to move from a Community Interest Company into a Limited Company and Charity.[00:12:51] Finally, we update on the other commercial updates across the project: The Grange Distillery and the Grange Studio.[00:15:47] Helen introduces herself and the mission and landscape of Make it Wild.[00:22:57] Tom asks about the team at Make it Wild, including the conservation grazing team.[00:28:37] We hear about the business model that enables Make it Wild to carry on helping nature.[00:34:24] Chloe asks about carbon offsetting and Helen shares the basics of how this operates. [00:37:25] We discuss some of the ethical dilemmas of carbon offsetting, including the risk of not reducing emissions at source, focusing on carbon without considering the impact on nature or not maintaining trees for the long term.[00:48:00] Helen tells us about their land owner partners and the opportunities of a franchise model.[00:50:52] Tom and Chloe reflect on the interview, including their decision not to pursue carbon credits.Mentioned in this episode:Visit & Stay at the Grange ProjectWould you like to escape the trappings of the modern world and wake-up in the morning to one of the best views in South Wales, where only the birds are noisy? We have two beautiful and sustainably built ‘tiny homes’, carefully located in secluded locations across our 80 acre rewilding project.Visit Grange Project

Matt Swarbrick, a farmer in North West Wales, shares with us the journey of Henbant. Using the principles of holistic decision making and agriwilding, they’ve created a thriving ecosystem that enables them to produce delicious nutrient dense food and magical spaces for both people and nature. Enjoy Matt’s warmth and passion as he paints a picture of the beautiful world they are creating. Your Hosts:Tom Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Chloe Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-constable-24155821b/Website: https://www.grangeproject.co.ukPodcast Journey Page: https://www.grangeproject.co.uk/wilder-podcastGrange Project Contact & Social Media:Email: hello@grangeproject.co.ukInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/grange.project/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grangeprojectYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GrangeProjectLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Our Guest: Matt Swarbrick, HenbantMatt Swarbrick is a permaculture inspired farmer at Henbant in North Wales. An ecologist and filmmaker by background he and his family and the Henbant team are on a mission to prove that with a small farm you can produce good food, financial profit, build soil and biodiversity, build a community and enjoy it all at the same time. Henbant has an 80 share CSA scheme and produces enough eggs, beef and veg for 80 local families from amongst a diversity of silvopasture systems. They are now working with the Wildlife trust to explore the space between ecologically intensive farming and maximum biodiversity enhancement; agri-wilding Henbant’s watershed. Henbant runs a range of courses in and is one of Europe’s leading models of small scale regenerative agroecology.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-swarbrick-322503289/?originalSubdomain=ukWebsite: https://www.henbant.org/Listen out for:[00:00:00] Tom and Chloe update on the project, focused on food production focused developments.[00:06:48] Matt introduces himself and his background.[00:12:30] Matt describes their journey to Henbant and the layout of the farm. [00:17:25] We discuss their approach; holistic decision making and the concept of agriwilding.[00:24:33] Tom and Chloe question Matt about the food Henbant is producing including the importance of agroforestry.[00:30:11] We discuss risk, entrepreneurship and the value of diversification.[00:35:58] Chloe asks about how people are invited to join the system at Henbant.[00:39:16] Matt tells us about the courses that are run from Henbant.[00:43:42] We question Matt about the future vision for Henbant.[00:47:40] Chloe and Tom reflect on the interview and what resonated most for them.Mentioned in this episode:Visit & Stay at the Grange ProjectWould you like to escape the trappings of the modern world and wake-up in the morning to one of the best views in South Wales, where only the birds are noisy? We have two beautiful and sustainably built ‘tiny homes’, carefully located in secluded locations across our 80 acre rewilding project.Visit Grange Project

We journey across Europe with James Shooter, host of the rewild podcast. From inspirational community led rewilding projects, to the trial and tribulations of road tripping, sit back and enjoy his story-telling skills. On that theme, we end the episode with a discussion about the role of communications and collaboration in the rewilding movement.Your Hosts:Tom Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Chloe Constable: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chloe-constable-24155821b/Website: https://www.grangeproject.co.ukGrange Project Contact & Social Media:Email: hello@grangeproject.co.ukInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/grange.project/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/grangeprojectYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@GrangeProjectLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-constable/Grange Project Partnership Document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HNUjLB-bWDTgv4AJoYG7uUoAWEBE9q28/view?usp=drive_linkOur Guest:James Shooter is a nature photographer, filmmaker and podcaster currently based in the Cairngorms National Park, Scotland. He’s fully immersed in the world of rewilding, the large-scale restoration of nature, and finding ways to communicate positive environmental stories through a variety of different media.For the last 10 years he has worked at Scottish rewilding charity, SCOTLAND: The Big Picture as a visual content creator and guide. Throughout 2023 & 2024 he was travelling across the continent, teaming up with Rewilding Europe, to produce The Rewild Podcast - immersive discussions with an army of passionate people fighting back for nature.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-shooter-b1920256/?originalSubdomain=ukWebsite: https://www.jamesshooter.com/Podcast: https://rewildingeurope.com/the-rewild-podcast/Resources:3D Artist Karen: https://therubycube.com/Grange Project Partnership Document: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HNUjLB-bWDTgv4AJoYG7uUoAWEBE9q28/view?usp=drive_linkListen out for:[00:00:00] Tom and Chloe update on the project, focusing on our newly launched Corporate Brochure.[00:05:30] We meet James who introduces himself, his family and the origin story of the Rewild Podcast[00:13:05] James summarises the aims of the Rewild Podcast[00:16:05] We hear about two of the projects he featured on the podcast that James found particularly inspirational, Seawilding on the west coast of Scotland and Greater Coa Valley in Portugal.[00:20:18] We discuss the differences in the scale of nature between Europe and the UK, and the power of nature recovery, even alongside modern day conflict in Ukraine. [00:26:58] James shares the unexpected challenges on route, which were mostly van related![00:32:44] Chloe asks James about the impact of the podcast, on listeners and him alike.[00:36:36] We then go on to discuss what’s next for James and the power of communication and conversation. [00:41:36] James tells a story about lynx reintroduction to illustrate the need for common ground in the UK. [00:44:32] Chloe and Tom reflect on the interview and what resonated most for them.Mentioned in this episode:Visit & Stay at the Grange ProjectWould you like to escape the trappings of the modern world and wake-up in the morning to one of the best views in South Wales, where only the birds are noisy? We have two beautiful and sustainably built ‘tiny homes’, carefully located in secluded locations across our 80 acre rewilding project.Visit Grange Project