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The Hidden Rules No One Tells You at Work (S8:E11)
Jun 23, 2026
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Building Critical Connection at Work with Tracy Brower (S8:E10)
May 26, 2026
37m 01s
In Praise of the Office with Peter Cappelli and Ranya Nehmeh (S8:E8)
Apr 27, 2026
31m 58s
The Preschool Skills Business Leaders Need (S8:E6)
Apr 10, 2026
26m 46s
Rewiring Learning for an AI-Enabled World (S8:E5)
Mar 27, 2026
26m 56s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 6/23/26 | The Hidden Rules No One Tells You at Work (S8:E11) | “If you know, you know” culture isn’t just a meme; it’s a hidden system that determines who gets access, opportunity and advancement. Dr. Ella Washington breaks down the unspoken rules shaping today’s workplaces and how leaders can make expectations clearer and more equitable. It’s a conversation that reframes what inclusion really requires. Dr. Ella Washington is an organizational psychologist, professor and author whose work focuses on workplace culture, inclusion and the hidden norms that shape careers. She’s the author of Unspoken and a leading voice helping organizations make expectations visible and create more equitable paths to advancement. The Work Better podcast is produced by Katie Pace, with assistance from Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison provides creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Sean McManaman and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano publishes digitally. | — | ||||||
| 5/26/26 | Building Critical Connection at Work with Tracy Brower (S8:E10)✨ | workplace connectionhybrid work+4 | Tracy Brower | SteelcaseSoundpost Studios+2 | — | friendshiploneliness+4 | — | 37m 01s | |
| 4/27/26 | In Praise of the Office with Peter Cappelli and Ranya Nehmeh (S8:E8)✨ | hybrid workorganizational culture+3 | Peter CappelliRanya Nehmeh | Wharton School of the University of PennsylvaniaSteelcase+1 | — | hybrid workorganizational culture+5 | — | 31m 58s | |
| 4/10/26 | The Preschool Skills Business Leaders Need (S8:E6)✨ | soft skillsleadership+4 | Dr. Laura Jana | SteelcaseSoundpost Studios | — | curiosityself-management+5 | — | 26m 46s | |
| 3/27/26 | Rewiring Learning for an AI-Enabled World (S8:E5)✨ | AI in educationlearning innovation+3 | Mario Chiasson | District scolaire francophone SudUniversité de Moncton+1 | — | AIeducation+3 | — | 26m 56s | |
| 3/16/26 | Rerun: Sparking Joy at Work with Ingrid Fetell Lee✨ | joy at workworkplace design+4 | Ingrid Fetell Lee | The Aesthetics of JoyJoyful | — | joyworkplace+6 | — | 26m 29s | |
| 2/24/26 | How to Control Your Emotions at Work (S8:E4)✨ | emotional regulationworkplace environment+3 | Ethan Kross | University of MichiganSoundpost Studios+2 | — | emotionsworkplace+3 | — | 34m 04s | |
| 2/10/26 | Creating High Performance Culture with Khalil Smith (S8:E3)✨ | high performance cultureinclusion+4 | Khalil Smith | Akamai TechnologiesSteelcase | — | high performanceculture+5 | — | 26m 51s | |
| 1/26/26 | Becoming the Leader People Don't Want to Leave (S8:E2)✨ | leadershipemployee engagement+3 | Clint Pulver | SteelcaseSoundpost Studios | — | leadershipemployee retention+3 | — | 29m 52s | |
| 1/13/26 | A Head and Heart Approach to Leadership (S8:E1)✨ | leadershipemotional intelligence+4 | Shannon Cohen | McKinseyRockstar Woman Movement+2 | — | leadershipemotional stamina+5 | — | 31m 01s | |
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| 12/9/25 | Boosting Creativity by Talking to Strangers with Jill Perry Smith (S7:E5)✨ | creativitysocial networks+3 | Jill Perry Smith | Emory UniversityGoizueta Business School+2 | — | creativityinnovation+5 | — | 33m 20s | |
| 11/24/25 | Creating A Curious Organization with Stefaan van Hooydonk (S7:E4) | Job postings that include the word “curiosity” have grown by 90% year over year. But curiosity isn’t just a personal trait -- it’s becoming a business imperative. As Stefaan van Hooydonk shared on the Steelcase Work Better podcast, organizations that embrace curiosity empower people to learn faster, foster psychological safety, and spark innovation. This episode explores how leaders can create space for curiosity and why it’s the key to building stronger cultures and better business results. Stefaan van Hooydonk is the founder of the Global Curiosity Institute and author of The Workplace Curiosity Manifesto. He is a seasoned former Chief Learning Officer for Fortune 200 companies, including Nokia, Philips, Cognizant, and Saudi Aramco. Today, he consults and speaks globally, helping leaders and organizations build cultures of curiosity to drive growth and innovation. The Work Better podcast is produced by Katie Pace, with assistance from Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, and Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison provides creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 11/10/25 | Why We Misunderstand Each Other at Work with Nick Epley (S7:E3) | We think we know what our coworkers want – but we’re often wrong. In this episode of Work Better, behavioral scientist Nick Epley reveals why we misread even those closest to us, and how asking deeper questions can unlock trust, connection, and better collaboration. Epley challenges us to rethink small talk, lean into hard conversations, and design spaces that make connection the default – not the exception. Nick Epley is a leading behavioral scientist known for his work on social cognition and human connection. He is the John Templeton Keller Distinguished Service Professor of Behavioral Science at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and Director of the Roman Family Center for Decision Research. His research explores how people perceive and misunderstand each other, with notable contributions to the understanding of egocentrism, miscommunication, and anthropomorphism. The Work Better podcast is produced by Katie Pace, with assistance from Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, and Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison provides creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 10/27/25 | Make Listening Your Superpower with Jeff Yip (S7:E2) | Listening is hardest when it matters most – and many of us are doing it wrong. In this Work Better episode, researcher Jeff Yip reveals the five mistakes that sabotage our ability to truly hear others. Find out what they are, and learn why listening is the key to connection, engagement, and leadership – and how to start doing it better. Jeffrey Yip, PhD, is an Associate Professor of Management at Simon Fraser University and the founder of ListeningWorks. His research focuses on leadership, mentoring, and career development, with a special emphasis on interpersonal dynamics and organizational psychology. A Fulbright scholar, Yip earned his PhD in Organizational Behavior from Boston University and a master’s degree in Human Development and Psychology from Harvard University. The Work Better podcast is produced by Katie Pace, with assistance from Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, and Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison provides creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 10/13/25 | Leading Humans in the Age of AI with Erica Keswin (S7:E1) | 94% of people say they’re more productive when they feel connected. In this episode of Work Better, Erica Keswin explains why great leaders act more like cruise directors -- curating connection, not just managing tasks. Tune in for insights on building human workplaces that boost engagement, retention, and the bottom line. Erica Keswin is a workplace strategist, speaker, and bestselling author dedicated to helping organizations build more human-centered cultures. Her books – “Bring Your Human to Work,” “Rituals Roadmap,” and “The Retention Revolution—explore the power of connection, intentional leadership, and meaningful rituals in driving engagement and performance.” She’s also a passionate advocate for finding the sweet spot between tech and connect – especially in the age of AI – and a proud dog mom to Cruiser, her very human pup. The Work Better podcast is produced by Katie Pace, with assistance from Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, and Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison provides creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 9/17/25 | Why Mattering Matters with Zach Mercurio - Part Two (S6:E11) | Most people want to feel like what they do matters -- but too often, they’re expected to care without being shown that they’re cared for. In this episode of Work Better, host Chris Congdon continues her conversation with researcher and author Zach Mercurio about the power of mattering. Discover how leaders can build cultures of significance by noticing, affirming, and showing people they’re needed. It’s not just about soft skills -- it’s about unlocking real performance and helping people thrive. Zach Mercurio, Ph.D., is a researcher and advisor on purposeful leadership and the science of mattering. He helps organizations build cultures of meaning and motivation, and teaches at Colorado State University’s Center for Meaning and Purpose. His clients include the U.S. Army, Marriott, and Simon Sinek’s Optimist community. The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, and Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 9/2/25 | Why Mattering Matters with Zach Mercurio - Part One (S6:E10) | Most people want to feel like what they do matters – but too often, they’re expected to care without being shown that they’re cared for. In this episode of Work Better, host Chris Congdon talks with Zach Mercurio, researcher and author of The Power of Mattering, about why feeling valued is essential to adding value. Learn how leaders can build cultures of significance that reduce loneliness, boost engagement, and help people thrive. Zach Mercurio, Ph.D., is a researcher and advisor on purposeful leadership and the science of mattering. He helps organizations build cultures of meaning and motivation, and teaches at Colorado State University’s Center for Meaning and Purpose. His clients include the U.S. Army, Marriott, and Simon Sinek’s Optimist community. The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, and Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 8/21/25 | Making Work Meaningful with Wes Adams (S6:E9) | Most people want more from their work than just a paycheck. They want to feel like what they do matters. And that shift isn’t just a trend — it’s a call to action for today’s leaders. This special episode of the Work Better podcast (Recorded live at the American Society of Interior Designers National Conference in Atlanta) features Wes Adams, a positive psychology researcher at the University of Pennsylvania and author of Meaningful Work: How to Ignite Passion and Performance in Every Employee. He shares practical insights and powerful research on what drives meaningful work and how leaders can help people feel more connected to their work, colleagues, and organization by creating community. The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, and Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 8/11/25 | What’s Really Causing Distraction with Nir Eyal (S6:E8) | Are you ‘indistractable?’ Probably not. Distractions constantly barrage us. How we choose to focus can profoundly impact our mental health, physical wellbeing and our closest relationships. As author Nir Eyal says, “Choosing your attention is truly how we choose our lives.” On this episode, Eyal sheds light on the root causes of distraction and shares actionable tips to make being ‘indistractable’ your superpower. Nir Eyal is a bestselling author and behavioral design expert known for Hooked and Indistractable, which explore habit formation and focus in the digital age. He’s taught at Stanford, founded and sold tech startups, and consults on creating products that positively shape user behavior. The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, and Brandon Lacic. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 7/21/25 | The Connection Between Culture and Sustainability with Joaquina Garrido and Susana Quintas (S6E7) | Sustainability isn’t relegated to just one team anymore. For many organizations, it's becoming intertwined with everything they do – and this elevated focus on sustainability is changing how many people work. In this episode of the Work Better podcast, workplace transformation and real estate experts Joaquina Garrido and Susana Quintas discuss the impact of workplace culture on sustainability and how creating sustainable office environments can boost productivity and employee wellbeing. Joaquina Garrido is a member of the Board of Directors at IFMA España and sponsor of its Workplace and People Commission. She is a leading advocate for sustainable, human-centered office design that supports collaboration and well-being in hybrid work environments. Susana Quintás is the Director of the Sustainability Commission at IFMA España. With a background in finance and corporate strategy, she champions ESG-driven workplace transformation and co-leads initiatives like the “Playbook de la Oficina Sostenible.” The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, Brandon Lacic, and Celeste Johnson. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 7/7/25 | Why Meetings Still Suck with Steven Rogelberg (S6E6) | Could this meeting have been an email? We ask it every week. Employees have long held a love-hate relationship with the traditional office meet-up. However, Dr. Steven Rogelberg, an expert in organizational psychology, believes meetings can go from mundane to magnificent. He joins host Chris Congdon on the Work Better podcast to share insights and practical tips on overcoming common challenges, the impact of virtual and hybrid meetings, and the importance of face-to-face interactions. Rogelberg is Chancellor’s Professor at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte, where he teaches Organizational Science, Management, and Psychology. Widely recognized for his groundbreaking research on workplace meetings, team effectiveness, and employee well-being, Rogelberg has authored over 100 publications and delivered more than 50 invited talks around the world. His work has been featured in major media outlets including NPR, The Wall Street Journal, and Scientific American Mind. The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, Brandon Lacic, and Celeste Johnson. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 6/24/25 | Productivity, AI and the Future of Work with Chad Syverson (S6E5) | AI is revolutionizing productivity in the workplace. Economist Chad Syverson joins the Work Better podcast to share fascinating insights on AI's transformative potential and explain how this technology can enhance efficiency and drive innovation across business functions. Tune in to the Work Better podcast to learn how embracing AI could unlock unprecedented productivity. Chad Syverson is the George C. Tiao Distinguished Service Professor of Economics at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business. His research focuses on productivity, firm structure, and market dynamics, and he has coauthored the textbook Microeconomics. Before academia, he worked as a mechanical engineer and holds degrees in both engineering and economics. The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, Brandon Lacic, and Celeste Johnson. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 6/9/25 | The Myth of Work-Life Balance with Danna Greenberg (S6 Ep04) | In today's fast-paced world, balancing work and life can seem daunting. But building a life outside of work — establishing hobbies, cultivating a positive family life and engaging in community activities — can help create full, meaningful lives that translate to the workplace. On this episode of the Work Better podcast, host Chris Congdon and guest Danna Greenberg, an organizational psychologist and professor at Babson College, explore how elements of personal wellbeing can help us thrive professionally. Danna Greenberg is a professor of organizational behavior at Babson College, a published author of several books including Maternal Optimism: Forging Positive Paths Through Work and Motherhood, is the Associate Editor for the Academy of Management Learning and Education, and has published in over 30 articles in leading journals. The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, Brandon Lacic, and Celeste Johnson. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
| 5/13/25 | Starting Your Relationship with AI with Mike Pell (S6E3) | Starting Your Relationship with AI with Mike Pell (S6E3) by Steelcase | — | ||||||
| 5/6/25 | How Languishing at Work Impacts Your Life with Corey Keyes (S6: Ep.2) | In today's demanding work environment, understanding the impact of languishing at work – and how to overcome it – is vital. On the Work Better podcast, host Chris Congdon and guest Corey Keyes, a renowned author and sociologist, delve into how languishing at work affects our lives and how fostering a sense of belonging, community, purpose and meaning can significantly enhance our mental health. Corey Keyes is a bestselling author, sociologist, professor at Emory University, and a member of an advisory board for the World Happiness Forum. He has written several books, including Languishing: How to Feel Alive Again in a World That Wears Us Down. Keyes is a member of the Positive Psychology Network and has worked for the Center of Disease Control and Prevention. The Work Better podcast is produced with assistance from Katie Pace, Rebecca Charbauski, Stav Kontis, Chiara Licari, Brandon Lacic, and Celeste Johnson. Erin Ellison and Emily Cowdrey provide creative art direction. Soundpost Studios edits and mixes the podcast. Mark Caswell and Jose Jimenez provide technical support. Areli Arellano and Jordan Marks publish digitally. | — | ||||||
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