E249ď˝œTokençťćľŽč˝Źç‚šďźšOpenClawă€Hermesĺˆ°ćœŹĺœ°č‡Şç ”çš„Agentčż›ĺŒ–äš‹čˇŻ

August 20, 2026 · 1h 27m · Episode 8

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The episode discusses the evolution of token usage in AI and the shift towards more cost-effective local models.

ĺŽťĺš´ĺš´ĺş•ďźŒçĄ…č°ˇćŽ€čľˇäş†ä¸€č‚ĄéŁŽć˝Žâ€”â€”â€œToken Maxingâ€ďźˆćœ€ĺ¤§ĺŒ–tokenä˝żç”¨é‡ďź‰ďźŒç§‘ćŠ€ĺ…Źĺ¸ĺˆ›ĺ§‹äşşĺ’ŒĺˇĽç¨‹ĺ¸ˆäťŹäş‰ç›¸ć™’ĺ‡şč´Śĺ•ďźŒćŻ”č°ĺŽśTokenćśˆč€—ć›´ĺ“äşşďźŒäťĽć¤ĺ˝°ć˜žĺŻšAIçš„ĺ…¨ĺŠ›ćŠźćł¨ă€‚ä˝†ĺˆ°äş†äťŠĺš´ĺš´ä¸ďźŒćˆćœŹĺ¤ąćŽ§ĺ’Œč™šĺ‡ç”Ÿäş§ĺŠ›čŽŠčż™ĺœşçƒ§é’ąçŤžčľ›ĺˆ°čžžäş†č˝ŹćŠ˜ç‚šă€‚Uberĺœ¨ĺ››ä¸Şćœˆé‡Œçƒ§çŠżäş†ĺ…¨ĺš´çš„AIé˘„çŽ—ďźŒMetač˘ŤčżŤçť™ĺ‘˜ĺˇĽčŽžĺŽštokenä˝żç”¨ä¸Šé™ďźŒä¸€äş›ĺ…Źĺ¸äźšćé†’ĺ‘˜ĺˇĽä˝żç”¨AIçš„ć—śĺ€™ćł¨ć„ćˆćœŹă€‚ĺ¤§ĺŽśĺź€ĺ§‹čŽ¤çœŸć€č€ƒďźšĺŚ‚ä˝•ć›´çťćľŽĺœ°ä˝żç”¨TokenďźŸ čż™ćœŸčŠ‚ç›Žçš„ĺ˜‰ĺŽžéť„ä¸œć—ďźŒĺ°ąć˜ŻToken Maxingçƒć˝Žçš„äş˛ĺŽ†č€…ă€‚äť–ć›žçťćŻĺ¤Šçƒ§ćŽ‰ä¸‰ĺ››ç™žçžŽĺ…ƒďźŒĺŞç”¨ćœ€ĺ‰ć˛żçš„ć¨Ąĺž‹ă€‚čŽŠäť–é€ć¸č˝Źĺ˜çš„ďźŒć˜Żä¸ĺ›˝ĺź€ćşć¨Ąĺž‹äťŹçš„ĺ´›čľˇďźŒĺ¤§é‡çš„ć—Ľĺ¸¸äťťĺŠĄéƒ˝ĺŻäťĽĺšĺˆ°â€œĺŞçƒ§ç”ľč´šďźŒä¸çƒ§Tokenâ€ă€‚äť–çš„çť“čŽşć˜Żďźšä¸ć˜Żĺ‰ć˛żć¨Ąĺž‹ç”¨ä¸čľˇďźŒč€Œć˜ŻćœŹĺœ°ĺź€ćşć¨Ąĺž‹ĺş•ĺş§+ĺ‰ć˛żć¨Ąĺž‹çš„ćé…ďźŒćˆćœŹĺŻćŽ§ďźŒć›´ĺ…ˇć€§äťˇćŻ”ă€‚ ćˆ‘äťŹčŠäş†čż™ĺŠĺš´Agentäş§ĺ“çš„čż›ĺŒ–ĺ˛â€”â€”äťŽOpenClawďźŒĺˆ°HermesďźŒĺˆ°Agentčœ‚çž¤çš„ć™şčƒ˝ćśŒçŽ°ć˝œĺŠ›ďźŒAgentćśˆč€—Tokençš„čś‹ĺŠżä¸äźšĺœć˘ďźŒćœŞćĽčż˜äźšćœ‰ć›´ĺ¤ć‚çš„A2Aç˝‘çťœă€‚äş˛ĺŽ†äş†äş’č”ç˝‘ă€ç§ťĺŠ¨äş’č”ç˝‘ă€AIä¸‰ćł˘ćľŞć˝Žçš„ĺź…

People in this episode

Host: 泓君Jane

Guests: 张宏江, 黄东旭

Topics covered

Token economy
AI cost management
Agent evolution
Open source models
Entrepreneurship in AI

Keywords

Token Maxing
AI budget
OpenClaw
Hermes
Agent products
local models
cost efficiency
AGI

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Llama Ventures, 北京智源人工智能研究院（BAAI）, 微软, PingCAP, 华夏基金

Places: 成都

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