Podcasters Unite! Thinking about systemic change with Tim Logan, Nathalie Nahai, Amit Paul, and Manda Scott

About this episode

A discussion among four podcasters on the concept of systemic change and its implications.

How do we think about systemic change? Specifically, how do four podcasters who spend their entire lives thinking about this think about systemic change - what it is and how we get there? Tim Logan of Future Learning Design podcast convened a conversation with Nathalie Nahai of her eponymous In Conversation podcast, Amit Paul of the World of Wisdom podcast . So you can know them better, Amit Paul is a former popstar and CEO of green chemicals company Paxymer AB turned systems dancer. No, he's co-founder of Innrwrks and host of World of Wisdom podcast , exploring how business can create a future we want for our kids. Amit hosts explorative conversations, facilitates group work and advices and supports companies navigating the current ecological, social and technological paradigm shifts. Nathalie Nahai is an author, keynote speaker and host of the Nathalie Nahai in Conversation podcast enquires into our relationship with one another, with technology and with the living world. She’s author of the international best-sellers Webs Of Influence: The Psychology of Online Persuasion and, more recently, Business Unusual: Values, Uncertainty and the Psychology of Brand Resilience which has…

People in this episode

Host: Tim Logan

Guests: Nathalie Nahai, Amit Paul, Manda Scott

Topics covered

• systemic change
• podcasting
• business
• ecological shifts
• social change
• technology

Keywords

• systemic change
• podcasters
• ecological shifts
• social change
• business future

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Future Learning Design, World of Wisdom, Paxymer AB, Innrwrks, Flourishing Futures Salon

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