Ask the A&Ps

From maintaining aircraft records to dealing with bad advice and sub-standard parts, Mike, Paul, and Colleen say being an aircraft owner is one of the hardest jobs in aviation. Email your questions to podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show. Join the world's largest aviation community at aopa.org/join Full notes below: Randy wants to know if circuit breakers have a life limit. He has a Mooney with about 3,000 hours. He had one that was acting up, and was wondering if he should intentionally exercise or change them on some interval. Paul said he recommends to all his clients that they exercise their breakers every few years, since they do tend to corrode. Just tripping it breaks oxidation off the contacts, he said. If you check the resistance before and after the resistance often goes down. Colleen said she replaces a few breakers during each annual. Gary owns a Lake Amphibian with a IO-360 and he runs with fine wire plugs. At the last annual he found four of his Champion plugs had infinite resistance. They otherwise seemed to function normally. He’s wondering what the implications are? Paul said he has boxes old boxes of new Champion plugs that he can’t force himself to throw away, but he refuses to give them away either because he doesn’t trust them. The hosts said they’ve seen many problems with Champion fire wire plugs and the insulators. So they’ve stopped using them and suggest others do as well. They all endorse the massive electrode Champions are just fine, however. Chris helps clients establish aircraft logbooks after they buy their first airplane. Paul said: You should keep as much of the maintenance records as possible for value. Old invoices he puts in a bag and sets them aside. He keeps weight and balance history and it’s nice to have a 337 record. Only the current equipment list is necessary. He’ll recommend customers organize their own logbooks and not pay him to do it. Colleen also keeps a separate spreadsheet for time in service of all the airplane’s components. That makes it easy for inspection, replacement, and for ADs. Mike’s records include a big Word doc that includes all his maintenance records and a spreadsheet with the weight and balance, equipment list, and so on. Paul suggests only giving your maintenance provider a thumb drive so they can’t hold your logbooks hostage, nor do anything else you don’t approve of. Then when you’re ready to leave, you get the thumb drive and the sticker to go in the logbook when you get home. Paul read an article that advised against leaning too quickly and leading to washboarding of cylinders. Mike thinks that came from an old service bulletin. He said it needs to be taken in context. They were talking about heating the cylinder too fast. They weren’t talking about the transition from rich of peak to lean of peak, but rather a very rich mixture to a slightly less rich mixture. The piston heats faster than the cylinder barrel, and it expands faster than the cylinder. The piston could potentially cause metal to metal contact.

In this episode, Mike, Paul, and Colleen discuss unnecessary maintenance, lean of peak, and flaming exhausts! Email podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show. Join the world's largest aviation community at aopa.org/join Full episode notes below: Mitchell has a Cessna 185 and he's wondering if it's smart to change out the rotocoils on his engine at some pre-determined point in order to avoid uneven heat patterns on his exhaust valves. Paul, despite having done this, advises him to borescope, and only change when he sees an uneven heat pattern. Since Mitchell already borescopes often, Paul thinks he'll catch a faulty rotocoil quickly. Mike suggests that Mitchell could hit the coil with a mallet and if it doesn't turn to change it. Regardless of the test or monitoring method Mitchell chooses, they agree it's unnecessary to change the springs pre-emptively. Doug has some questions about lean of peak. Specifically, he's wondering why his EGT spread is so large when his GAMI spread is only .2 gallons an hour. The hosts remind him that EGT only matters as a way to identify peak. Otherwise the relative and absolute numbers are meaningless. The big gap in EGT and CHT numbers often comes down to cooling inefficiencies, according to Mike. If the numbers indicated that the cylinders were making differential power, Doug would feel the engine roughness. So the hosts think he's doing just fine. Adam wants to know if he can use an automotive alternator in his Cessna 172 under the new VARMA policy. The policy allows for part substitutions when no aviation parts are commercially available. Since 172 alternators are available, he must use one of those. The hosts then discuss what makes an aviation alternator different from an automotive version since Cessna and Piper use GM and Ford alternators. Paul and Colleen focus on the brushes, which are different, and ours turn the opposite direction, which would require a different pully. Although they agree an owner could bring an aviation alternator to an automotive rebuild shop with aviation parts, they recommend against a straight automotive version. Mark has a Cherokee 235 and he likes to take videos of his flights in order to critique his skills. One one night flight he saw flames coming out of his exhaust, which he obviously found alarming. The hosts put his mind at ease, telling him it's a natural by-product of the combustion process, and simply represents the power his engine is making. But they dig further to find out two important points. First, Mark doesn't have a flame cone on his exhaust. If he did, the flames probably wouldn't be visible. And two, this only happens when he's lean of peak. This intrigues Mike because it's evidence of a slower combustion process that's known to happen during lean of peak. He surmises that because the process is longer, but the rpm consistent, combustion isn't complete when the valve opens, which is why Mark only sees the flame.

How do you fix a fix? Mike, Paul, and Colleen explore STC challenges, including parts, wrong installations, and ADS-B that isn't working. Email podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show. Join the world's largest aviation community at aopa.org Full notes below: Barat has a Cirrus SR22 with an STC air conditioner. The driveshaft recently broke and he’s wondering how to fix it. Some mechanics he’s spoken to won’t use alternative parts, but others will. Mike said it’s not unlike altering the original type certificate. The question is whether your alternative to the supplemental type certificate is major or minor. Mike and Paul agree that it sounds like a minor alteration because the parts are now available from Cirrus, based on the STC that Barat had it installed previously. Kevin has an LX7 with advanced avionics. A month or so after a trip through the Southwest, he got a letter from the FAA saying his ADS-B wasn’t functioning properly. He’s wondering how to know whether or not it’s working. Mike said he thinks this problem is similar to the transponder question. Even though there’s a reg that requires that an installed transponder be on and functioning, there’s no way to know if that’s the case, other than an ATC report or during a 24-month check. The hosts suggest you could do the same with ADS-B, requesting a report from the FAA on a periodic basis. Byron has a Cessna 170 that he purchased three years ago. The airplane came with vortex generators that were installed incorrectly. Byron is wondering what he should do next in terms of holding the original installer accountable. The hosts caution him on going to the FAA because they can’t investigate halfway. Mike wonders whether the FAA would actually go after the mechanic, since it’s not a safety of flight issue. Paul thinks making an honest mistake is usually let off from the FAA with minor infractions.

How to tell the difference between greases? Mike, Paul, and Collen break it down, plus high lean of peak temps, breaking in an engine on an experimental, and composite airframe cracks. Email podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to be on the show. Join the world's largest aviation community at aopa.org/join Full episode notes below: Mark wants to make sure he’s clear on which grease to use for which application. The manuals call for specific greases, but there are allowances for those with equivalent specs. But Mark wonders how to determine whether another grease is equivalent. Paul said you need to find the spec sheet for the grease the manufacturer recommends, and the spec sheet for the grease you’re thinking of using to make sure they more or less match. He also mentions Hartzell’s guidance that you can move up in grease numbers, but not down. Paul also cautions Cessna owners not to grease their flap tracks. They’re not meant to be greased, although the rollers are supposed to be lubricated. Grease Options March 24 2022, David Prizio, Kitplanes: https://www.kitplanes.com/grease-options/#:~:text=If%20your%20plane%20lives%20on,05%20and%20GN%2015%2C%20respectively For a full grease cross reference chart: EMTC https://emtc.aero/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Mappe2.GREASE-XREF-1.pdf From the LPS product application guide: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://pdf.directindustry.com/pdf/lps-laboratories/application-guide/11942-89226.html&ved=2ahUKEwjYgbmQiIiOAxVHHTQIHS21OzQQFnoECB4QAQ&usg=AOvVaw0KD4UOmbKMMo-0_4cGPymS Todd has a 2008 Cessna 400 that he just took delivery of. The airframe around the windscreen has a few little cracks that look like spider cracks. He’s read that there’s been an issue with this area and he’s wondering how much it matters. Paul said Todd is seeing cracks in the filler, and the expansion and contraction rate of it is different than the structure, which causes the cracks. Cessna apparently said back when it was built that they were working on a warranty repair for this area, but never did so. David is wondering how to break in a new engine on a new experimental airplane he’s building. He has the engine now pickled, waiting for the airplane to be finished. Colleen did some research and on the Van’s forum someone posted a poll asking how people balanced engine break in. Some mentioned not doing the stalls on the initial flight, and they decided to prioritize the engine break in. Mike said high power ground runs are fine during break in. Low power or long idling can glaze the cylinders. Jason is worried about his lean of peak temps on his B55 Baron. With the cowl flaps closed and a relatively warm day outside, he can’t keep one of his cylinders below 400 degrees. He’s done the Savvy flight test profile, and Savvy told him that the GAMI spread is acceptable and suggested checking the baffling. The first thing the hosts tell Jason to do is not compare the two engines. It’s irrelevant data. They focus on the baffling, even though Jason’s mechanic said it looks good. Paul said he’s seen cases where the baffling is wavy, which requires a slit be cut so that it lays flat and incoming air flow pushes it against the surface next to it (usually the cowling). After taking a deeper look, the hosts also suggest swapping probes to see what happens.

Oil is everywhere this time, with consumption and temperatures problems for three of our owners. Email podcasts@aopa.org for a chance to get on the show. Join the world's largest aviation community at aopa.org/join Full notes below: Mark has a Twin Comanche and is loving his new electronic ignition. He has an issue where oil temperature and CHTs are slightly different on one engine than the other. His oil temperature also spiked on one climbout on a hot day, and he’s wondering what’s wrong. He’s using the variable timing. Nothing like this happened prior to the ignition install. Paul suggested that maybe some baffling changed during the install. The hosts narrow in on either airflow or oil flow as the culprit. Colleen said to think of baffling not as trying to direct airflow across the engine, but a system that creates a high pressure, pushing air through the cylinder cooling fins. Chris is wondering what’s wrong with his new engine. He has a Cessna 206 and he put in a new Continental IO-550. After some initial runs, but found that it was burning about a quart of oil per four hours. On one flight is running a bit rough. It had turned out to be a failed magneto. They added an air/oil separator, which obviously didn’t help. He did some low level, high power runs that didn’t seem to help. At 100 hours he did a ring flush on Savvy’s recommendation. The ring flush seemed beneficial. Then after 10 hours he had only burned a quart. They are now at 150 hours and they are at a quart every 4 or 5 hours, and they’ve done another ring flush and it’s burning less oil again. He’s wondering why the rings are clogging up. Mike immediately zeros in on the problem by asking how long Chris has been running straight weight oil. He admits it was 150 hours on the advice of his mechanic. AD oil helps to prevent sludge build-up. Willie is wondering if you need an A&P to do an AMOC, or alternative method of compliance with an AD. The hosts describe the process, which can be completed by any “operator” meaning owner. So, one need not hold an A&P to request an AMOC. Most AMOCs apply only to the operator, although Mike said a manufacturer can develop a global AMOC that would apply to everyone. Steve was flying his Cessna 182RG with a Lycoming O-540 that he recently top overhauled with all new cylinders. He flew low and at high power to break them in, and oil consumption stabilized. He flew another 15 hours on regular oil and Camgard with virtually no oil burn. Then on a flight he was asked to slow rapidly on approach, and on that one flight he lost oil at a rate of three-quarters of a quart per hour. The consumption eventually settled at around a quart every 2.3 hours. He’s wondering if ring flutter is real and whether it caused the increased oil consumption. He didn’t notice excessive oil on the airplane. A ring wash didn’t fix it. He eventually decided to just overhaul the cylinders again. On inspection they didn’t find anything. Mike would have suspected a broken ring or expander spring. Paul wonders if the piston rings were wrong for the nickel cylinders Steve had installed. Unfortunately, he found a broken stud at 20 hours on his new cylinders. They hadn’t properly torqued 4 of the bolts on his cylinders, reinforcing Mike’s point that sometimes it’s better to leave cylinders in order to avoid maintenance induced failures.