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This week, Kate chats with PEN15 co-creator Anna Konkle for a conversation that's equal parts silly and heavy, like the last two people awake at a sleepover asking about the meaning of life and swapping stories of their first thong. They discuss Anna's new memoir, The Sane One, and how it explores a different kind of nostalgia than her previous work, touching on topics like the grief, estrangement, and reconciliation that anchor the book, hand-slapping games like Miss Mary Mack, the kind of love for your child that's so pure it almost scares you, and what it was like to be chosen as a Filene's Basement model. Along the way, they dive into the surprising relationship between the academia of clowning and playing a 13-year-old in PEN15, reminisce about AIM, Disney Channel free previews, sleepover paranormal rituals, and spiral about gentle parenting and the importance of boredom. It's a conversation about memories, motherhood, creativity, and all the tiny emotional truths that never quite leave us, with detours more random than Kate Bosworth showing up at your local Relay for Life. Enjoy! Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! Head to cozyearth.com and use my code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. That's code BETHEREINFIVE for an exclusive 20% off. And if you see a post-purchase survey, mention that you heard about Cozy Earth right here! Say YES to unforgettable moments with Liquid I.V.'s NEW Hydration Multiplier Sugar-Free Ring Pop. Tear. Pour. Live More. Go to LIQUID-IV.COM and get 20% off your first purchase with code BETHEREINFIVE at checkout. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for their Fourth of July Sale for 20% off Sitewide. Make sure you enter our show name after checkout, so they know we sent you! Right now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs buying the products individually. If you spend over $495 you will receive a Butcherbox for FREE. Plus if you spend over $795 you can also get a FREE cast iron grill pan! Visit Carawayhome.com/BTIF10 to take an additional 10% off your next purchase.

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This week, Kate welcomes back Sarah Chapelle (Taylor Swift Style) to discuss the first two episodes of Disney+'s The End of an Era docuseries. They dissect the emotional weight of episodes 1 and 2; from the devastating Vienna terror plot and Southport attack to Taylor's leadership style, bonus day generosity, and the physical toll of performing and beyond. Kate and Sarah analyze what the docuseries reveals about Taylor's collaborative process with her team, they predict future episodes (Miami costumes? Travis spotlight?), debate burning questions (Why no debut representation? Justice for YOYOK! What's the deal with the high-low ombre dress?), and explore whether the docuseries does a better job showing "the life of a showgirl" than the album itself. Overall, a thoughtful, detailed, and fun conversation about what makes this tour and this documentary still so compelling three years later. Enjoy! SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS Order Kate's NYT Bestselling book, One in a Millennial here! Text or leave a voicemail for Kate at 775-HEY-BETH! For a limited time, save on the perfect gift by visiting AuraFrames.com to get $35 off Aura's best selling Carver Mat frames at AURAFrames.com promo code BETHEREINFIVE. Right now, Betterwild is offering our listeners up to 40% off your order at Betterwild.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's Betterwild.com/BETHEREINFIVE for up to 40% off your order. Don't miss this opportunity—visit DraperJames.com and use code BTIF10 for 10% off. These pieces sell out fast, especially the new arrivals, so head over today. Go to helixsleep.com/bethereinfive for their current offer. If you're listening Dec 12 - 14, get 25% off sitewise. If you're listenting Dec 15 - 22, you'll get 20% off sitewide. Outside of those dates there are always discounts at helixsleep.com/bethereinfive. Make sure you enter our show name into the post-purchase survey so they know we sent you! Get 10% off your purchase with my new code BETHEREINFIVE10 at marcfisherfootwear.com. That's marcfisherfootwear.com for 10% off with code BETHEREINFIVE10. Don't settle for less than evidence-based support. My listeners get 25% off your first month at Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE. That's Ritual.com/BETHEREINFIVE for 25% off your first month.

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