Brews & Business

We are just two episodes away from the big 100! Before we get to the celebration, we take a deep dive into two very different types of numbers in this gripping and eye-opening episode.First, the host kicks things off with his precise, "numbers-driven" method for brewing the perfect espresso to create a perfect cortado. Our guest, Jamie Miller, also shares her unique relationship with numbers—hating math, but loving measurement—tracing how this appreciation evolved through cosmetology school and into her current professional life.Then, the tone shifts as Jamie Miller, of The Demand Project, shares her incredible personal journey and her mission to fight child trafficking. Jamie reveals her background, the chilling moment she first discovered child trafficking, how she overcame a spiritual encounter that tried to stop her exploration, and how a remarkably successful fundraiser in July 2020 led her to The Demand Project just weeks before they opened the nation’s largest safe house for child trafficking survivors.We discuss the pillars of The Demand Project—Prevention, Education, and Restoration—and the staggering financial reality of caring for these survivors. Finally, this episode confront shocking statistics surrounding trafficking, the age of pornography exposure, the alarming intersection between traffickers and the DHS foster care system, and the devastating lack of resources for survivors nationwide.This is a must-listen episode about business mindset, the power of grassroots funding, and the urgent reality of child trafficking in America.KEY TAKEAWAYS Knowing measurements provides satisfaction and a way to make adjustments.The Demand Project safe house is the largest in the nation with 25 beds. Most only have eightThere are only 661 beds total in the entire country for child trafficking survivors. 26 states have zero beds.70% of trafficked children are in the DHS foster care system.The annual cost to care for one child at the safe house is $75,000.One child can generate $375,000 per year for a trafficker.The average age for a female trafficking victim is 12 years old.The average age of pornography exposure has dropped two years in the last five years, sitting at seven years old in 2025.76% of professing Christian men view pornography at least once a week.Some resources you might get interested:The Demand Project: https://thedemandproject.org/ThE Bark Phone for Kids: https://www.bark.us/learn/the-bark-phone-for-kids-ps/?utm_source=aw&utm_medium=paid-search&utm_campaign=kids-phone-branded-google&utm_content=147666934708&utm_term=kwd-918710695802&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17664435801&gclid=Cj0KCQiAy6vMBhDCARIsAK8rOgnsy8ptNIheyjEIm5iR5SVa4Y4UA6Gte_OOn5AVi4w1RIJqxESOjCEaAoUeEALw_wcBEnjoyed this episode? Leave us a rating and review!Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

What does it take to keep Broken Arrow one of the safest and most vibrant cities in Oklahoma? In this episode, we sit down with City Manager Michael Spurgeon and Mayor Wimpey to pull back the curtain on the upcoming April 2026 General Obligation (GO) Bond. We dive deep into the eight critical propositions on the April 7th ballot—ranging from essential infrastructure like roads and storm water management to exciting quality-of-life upgrades like a new Senior Center and indoor pickleball courts. You’ll also learn about the unique "Proposition 8," a temporary sales tax designed to turn Broken Arrow into a premier sports tournament destination, ensuring that visitors help foot the bill for our local field upgrades. If you care about how your city grows, how your tax dollars are spent, and what the future of public safety looks like in your neighborhood, this is a must-watch conversation.Show Notes[00:00] City Government 101: Understanding the City Manager vs. Strong-Mayor structure.[03:45] The April 2026 GO Bond: Why April 7th is a critical date for BA residents.[07:20] Strengthening Public Safety: Plans for two new fire stations and enhanced early warning sirens.[12:15] Quality of Life & Parks: Moving the Senior Center and the expansion of the Rose District Plaza.[18:30] Proposition 8 Deep Dive: The temporary 5-year sales tax for sports facilities.Why turfing our fields is an economic game-changer.How 40-45% of the funding will come from visitors, not just residents.[25:10] The Two-Year Planning Process: How citizen surveys and town halls shaped these propositions.[29:45] How to Get Involved: Details on the four public forums coming in March.[32:00] Closing Thoughts: Where to find the full package at BrokenArrowOK.govBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

In this episode of Brews & Business, Braedon sits down with Paul Ross (Vice President) and Sarah Abbot (Marketing Director) of American Waste Control, one of Tulsa’s most iconic and community-driven companies.They dive into the heart of AWC’s mission — transforming waste into energy, educating communities through Mr. Murph, and building a people-first culture rooted in Integrity, Passion, Accountability, and People-Focus.Paul shares insights into leading a 235-truck operation, fostering innovation in recycling, and balancing leadership with family life as a father of five. Sarah highlights how creativity drives engagement — from viral music videos to the OklaHOME for Christmas parade.Together, they reveal how waste management goes far beyond trash — it’s about sustainability, education, and community pride.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

Summary:In this episode of Brews & Business, host Braedon Kruse sits down with Chief Lance Arnold, Chief of Police for Broken Arrow, Oklahoma. Together, they explore the parallels between running a business and leading a police department, the importance of wellness and training for officers, and lessons in leadership that apply across industries. Chief Arnold shares stories from his decades in law enforcement, his commitment to community engagement, and his vision for building a strong culture of accountability and trust. The conversation highlights adaptability, transparency, and servant leadership as key elements in both policing and business.Chapters:00:00 – IntroductionBraedon welcomes Chief Arnold and sets the stage for a conversation about leadership, law enforcement, and community.03:00 – Building a Culture of WellnessLance shares how Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu was introduced to his department as part of officer wellness and safety initiatives.10:15 – Lessons from Leadership SurprisesLance describes how he reacts to unexpected initiatives and how leaders should embrace ideas from their team.18:40 – Parallels Between Business & PolicingDiscussion on how running a police department mirrors running a business: managing budgets, people, and long-term vision.27:05 – Community EngagementThe role of transparency, public trust, and connecting with citizens.35:20 – Overcoming Challenges in LeadershipHandling criticism, accountability, and fostering resilience in an organization.45:10 – Mentorship & Core ValuesChief Arnold shares lessons from his mentors and the principles that guide his decision-making.55:00 – Future of LeadershipA reflection on what makes a great leader in both policing and business, and advice for the next generation.01:00:00 – Closing ThoughtsBraedon and Lance wrap up with key takeaways on leadership, adaptability, and building trust in any organization. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

Summary:James Bell, President & CEO of the Broken Arrow Chamber & EDC, details the strategy behind Broken Arrow's rapid growth on the Brews & Business podcast with host Braedon Kruse.Bell, who joined in September 2024, discusses his unique career path from medical devices to startups and, finally, economic development, explaining why he sees Broken Arrow as a "Goldilocks City." He shares his vision for the community, which focuses on balancing the attraction of primary jobs (manufacturers and tech) with nurturing small businesses and local entrepreneurs. Bell emphasizes that community development is the foundation for economic development, highlighting the Chamber's work in advocacy and workforce development, including the successful push for Senate Bill 701 (SB 701). He concludes by offering advice for entrepreneurs and discussing the personal legacy he aims to build in Broken Arrow. Key Takeaways The Journey to BA was Personal and Providential: James Bell openly shares his non-linear career path, noting several instances where he resisted a push toward economic development and entrepreneurship before realizing his true calling and moving his family to Broken Arrow for its community, schools, and growth opportunities.Community Development is the Foundation: James stresses that economic success hinges on community development—ensuring the city is a high-quality place to live, which then attracts the businesses that create "primary jobs" that bring new money into the economy. Retail and small businesses, often overlooked in economic development discussions, are essential for this quality of life.The Chamber’s True Value is Beyond Networking: While the Chamber hosts many networking events, its core value lies in advocacy (like fighting for SB 701), business retention and expansion (where most new jobs are created), and providing research and resources that help small businesses and entrepreneurs succeed.It’s Never Too Late to Start or Pivot: Drawing from his own experience of returning to school in his late 30s for a two-year pre-med program and MBA, and jumping into a new career later in life, James encourages entrepreneurs to embrace change and new beginnings, reminding them that the average successful entrepreneur starts in their 40s.Advice for Entrepreneurs: Get Out of the Building: James advises that the answers to business problems are "not inside the building you're sitting in." Entrepreneurs must go out and talk to 60-100 people about the problem and their proposed solution to truly understand the market and adapt before investing heavily.Episode Chapters 00:00 – 03:00Intro: Welcome, Gregoron Coffee Roasters Sponsor & Promo Code 03:00 – 05:30What’re We Drinking? (Coffee of the Day Discussion) 05:30 – 11:30The Winding Road to Broken Arrow: From Medical Sales to Economic Development 11:30 – 16:30Why Broken Arrow? Finding the "Goldilocks City" and its Growth Position 16:30 – 21:00The City vs. The Chamber: Understanding the Role of the Broken Arrow Chamber & EDC 21:00 – 28:00The Power of Advocacy: How the Chamber Fought for SB 701 (4-Year Degrees) 28:00 – 35:00The Three-Legged Stool: Attraction, Retention/Expansion, and Entrepreneurship 35:00 – 43:00Defining Success & The True Value of a Chamber Membership 43:00 – 49:30Broken Arrow's Unique Growth: Retail, Manufacturing, and Quality of Life Rankings 49:30 – 58:45The Personal Journey: From Corporate Climbing to Entrepreneurial Scars 58:45 – 1:04:00Entrepreneurial Advice: Better to Be Prepared or Just Start? 1:04:00 – 1:07:30Core Questions: Lucky or Smart? & The Legacy of a Leader 1:07:30Wrap-Up, Call to Action, & Sponsor ReminderBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

SummaryIn this conversation, Braedon Kruse discusses his journey in launching a new personal training platform that emphasizes holistic health and nutrition. He shares insights on the importance of sleep, recovery, and building a supportive fitness community. The discussion also delves into his experiences in the construction industry, the value of education and continuous learning, and the challenges of parenting while maintaining a work-life balance. Throughout the conversation, Braedon emphasizes the significance of routines, learning from mistakes, and the pursuit of happiness through making others happy.TakeawaysBuilding a fitness community is essential for success.Nutrition plays a crucial role in overall health and fitness.Sleep and recovery are often underrated in fitness journeys.Personal growth is a continuous process that requires effort.The construction industry demands attention to detail and quality.Mistakes are valuable learning opportunities in business.Creating a stable routine can help manage chaos in life.Parenting requires balancing personal and professional responsibilities.Happiness can be found in making others happy.Continuous learning is vital for personal and professional development. Chapters00:00 Launching New Ventures02:02 Holistic Health and Nutrition05:06 The Importance of Sleep and Recovery08:06 Building a Fitness Community11:08 Personal Growth and Fitness Journey13:23 Navigating the Construction Industry16:33 Lessons from Various Trades19:09 The Role of Education in Business22:13 Parenting and Family Dynamics25:10 Finding Balance in Life28:16 The Power of Routine31:14 Learning from Mistakes33:57 Defining Happiness36:34 Closing Thoughts and Future PlansBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

SummaryIn this conversation, Braedon and Ray discuss various themes surrounding leadership, accountability, and personal growth. Emphasizing the importance of transitioning from effort-based to production-based performance in leadership roles, sharing personal experiences from Ray's journey as an employee to a business owner.The discussion also touches on parenting, the significance of teamwork, and the lessons learned from youth sports, all while highlighting the need for cultural sensitivity in business practices. Ray reflects on his diverse work experiences and how they shaped his approach to leadership and business ownership, ultimately leading to his current role in a faith-based franchise.Ray shares insights on fatherhood, personal growth, and the challenges of balancing family life with professional ambitions. He discusses the importance of intentional family time, emotional capacity, and the significance of wise counsel for local businesses.Emphasizing the need for action over preparation in various life aspects, including parenting and entrepreneurship, while also addressing the impact of technology on family dynamics. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Brewing Conversations05:59 The Journey from Employee to Owner12:07 Cultural Sensitivity in Business18:01 The Importance of Teamwork24:05 Lessons from Youth Sports30:01 Future Plans and Exit Strategies48:47 The Power of Conversation Cards56:03 Intentional Family Time: The Powwow Tradition01:02:54 Screen-Free Sundays and Digital Detox01:08:10 Supporting Local Businesses: Challenges and Solutions01:18:12 The Importance of Wise Counsel in Business01:24:49 Luck vs. Smart Decisions in SuccessBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

SummaryIn this episode of the Brews and Business podcast, host Braedon Kruse welcomes his wife, Leslie Kruse, to discuss her extensive experience in marketing, the evolution of marketing strategies, and their journey as business partners.They explore the challenges of balancing work and home life, the importance of communication in their partnership, and the need to appreciate family moments amidst their busy lives. Leslie shares insights on audience engagement and content creation, while Braedon emphasizes the significance of marketing in building client relationships. Together, they reflect on their personal growth and the fast pace of life, encouraging listeners to be present and cherish their experiences. In this conversation, the participants discuss the importance of unplugging from technology to foster deeper connections, the significance of creating intentional time for each other through mini dates, and the role of therapy in emotional healing.They explore the dynamics of direct communication versus fluff, the lessons learned from ignoring red flags in business, and the necessity of maintaining relationships while working together as a couple. In this engaging conversation, the participants delve into various themes surrounding sales strategies, client engagement, and the importance of building quality relationships in business. They explore the concept of authenticity and the fears that often hold individuals back from being their true selves.The discussion also touches on the darker aspects of personal experiences and how they shape one's approach to life and business. Ultimately, the conversation emphasizes the significance of connection and collaboration in both personal and professional realms.Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest03:01 Leslie's Marketing Journey and Expertise05:58 The Evolution of Marketing Strategies09:00 Transitioning from Corporate to Business Partners11:54 Navigating Responsibilities in a Business Partnership14:51 Creative Content Creation and Audience Understanding17:47 Strengths and Dynamics in Business Partnership21:00 The Importance of Marketing and Client Relationships23:48 Balancing Work and Home Life26:48 Communication and Alignment in Partnership29:51 Setting Boundaries Between Work and Home32:48 Appreciating Family Moments and Future Reflections34:43 Unplugging for Connection39:06 Creating Mini Dates44:19 Emotional Healing and Therapy50:37 Direct Communication vs. Fluff56:04 Learning from Red Flags01:00:36 Maintaining Relationships in Business01:07:00 Sales Strategies and Client Engagement01:09:52 Building Quality Relationships in Business01:12:12 Exploring Authenticity and Fear01:21:05 Understanding Our Dark Sides01:25:03 The Importance of Connection and CollaborationBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

SummaryIn this engaging conversation, the hosts explore a variety of topics ranging from coffee preferences and morning routines to career transitions in the corporate world and the intricacies of drone technology. The discussion highlights the importance of free-flowing dialogue, personal anecdotes, and the value of routines in enhancing productivity. The conversation also delves into the challenges and regulations surrounding drone operations, emphasizing safety and responsibility in the field. In this engaging conversation, Braedon Kruse shares insights on embracing ADHD, the importance of human connection, and navigating personal and professional changes. He discusses creating a positive home environment, the joys of cooking, and balancing health and lifestyle choices. The dialogue shifts to political awareness, the need for transparency in government, and the speed of decision-making in politics versus business. Braedon emphasizes personal responsibility, civic engagement, and the power of storytelling through art, while also breaking societal norms and embracing individuality. TakeawaysA free-flowing conversation style can be more relatable and impactful.Coffee preferences can vary greatly depending on the time of day and mood.Morning routines can help set a positive tone for the day.Having a structured routine can provide mental clarity and accomplishment.Transitioning from a corporate job to entrepreneurship can be challenging yet rewarding.Project management in IT requires careful planning and execution.Drone technology offers exciting opportunities for creativity and storytelling.Understanding FAA regulations is crucial for safe drone operation.Calculated risks are essential in both business and drone flying.Continuous learning and certification can enhance safety and operational knowledge. ADHD can be a unique strength.Human connection is vital for personal growth.Life changes can lead to new opportunities.A positive home environment enhances well-being.Cooking can be a joyful family activity.Health and lifestyle choices require balance.Emotional expression is important for everyone.Political awareness is crucial for community engagement.Transparency in politics fosters trust.Artistic expression allows for storytelling and connection.Chapters00:00 Setting the Stage for a Free-Flowing Conversation02:50 Exploring Coffee Preferences and Rituals06:12 The Importance of Morning Routines08:59 Navigating Corporate Life and Career Transitions12:08 Project Management in IT and Telecom15:10 Diving into Drone Technology and Filmmaking30:01 Understanding Drone Regulations and Safety37:45 Embracing ADHD and Personal Growth38:29 The Power of Human Connection39:53 Navigating Life Changes and Community Involvement40:51 Creating a Positive Home Environment42:28 The Art of Cooking and Family Routines43:56 Balancing Health and Lifestyle Choices45:49 The Importance of Emotional Expression49:44 Political Awareness and Community Engagement53:21 The Need for Transparency in Politics57:15 The Speed of Government vs. Business01:01:12 Personal Responsibility and Civic Engagement01:05:31 Artistic Expression and Storytelling01:10:46 Breaking Societal Norms and Embracing IndividualityBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

SummaryIn this episode, Braedon Kruse welcomes back Dr. John Meisner to discuss various themes surrounding business growth, marketing in healthcare, and the importance of delegation and team dynamics. They explore the necessity of change and adaptation in business, the emotional aspects of marketing, and the role of attorneys in patient advocacy. The conversation also touches on the significance of setting quarterly goals and the subjective nature of quality in service delivery. In this conversation, Braedon Kruse discusses the essential components of building a successful business, emphasizing the importance of quality in products and services, effective marketing, and the need for a strong team. He shares insights on the significance of taking time off for creativity and reflection, the challenges of branding, and the potential for innovative therapies in chiropractic care. The discussion also touches on the importance of maintaining quality of life and the role of chiropractic in achieving that, as well as strategies for scaling a business and finding the right team members.Watch the YouTube Video HereTakeawaysInspiration is key for personal and professional growth.Change is necessary when something isn't working.Marketing should evoke emotions to engage audiences.Teaching in healthcare can be challenging but essential.Delegation is crucial for efficiency in business operations.Quality in service is subjective and varies by location.Setting quarterly goals can help maintain focus and drive.Emotional barriers are important in managing client relationships.Scaling requires a productive approach to avoid chaos.Maintaining revenue is essential for supporting team members. You need a quality product and service to succeed.Marketing is essential for getting attention on your offerings.Taking time off can enhance creativity and productivity.Branding should focus on the business identity, not just the personal brand.Innovative therapies can expand service offerings in chiropractic care.Quality of life is a key focus in chiropractic practice.Building a strong team is crucial for business scaling.Training clients on expectations is important for service delivery.Consistency in branding is vital for recognition.The patient experience should be prioritized over the provider's ego.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Welcome Back05:53 Marketing and Education in Healthcare11:46 Scaling and Efficiency in Business17:55 Quarterly Goals and Mindset Shifts24:24 The Importance of Taking Time Off33:28 Quality of Life: The Role of ChiropracticBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

SummaryIn this episode of the Bruising Business Podcast, host Braedon Kruse discusses the evolution of the Tulsa Irish Fest with returning guest Don Burdick. They explore the festival's origins, its growth, and the challenges faced, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic. The conversation highlights the importance of community support, the festival's family-friendly atmosphere, and the business aspects of organizing such events. Burdick shares personal anecdotes about the festival's impact on attendees and the connections formed through music, emphasizing the goal of creating lasting memories for families and fostering a sense of community. In this conversation, Braedon Kruse discusses the upcoming festival, highlighting the introduction of live rugby matches and the collaborative effort behind organizing the event. He emphasizes the importance of teamwork, shared vision, and empowering individuals within an organization. Braedon also shares insights from his experience as a CEO, navigating challenges, and finding innovative solutions during crises. In this conversation, Braedon Kruse shares his journey through financial partnerships, emphasizing the importance of trust and quality in business. He discusses the balance between passion and profit in entrepreneurship, highlighting the need for intentional living and personal growth. Braedon reflects on his experiences in the oil and gas industry and his transition to new ventures, advocating for embracing change and pursuing what truly matters in life.Click here to watch the YouTube videoTakeawaysThe Tulsa Irish Fest was born out of a desire for cultural celebration.Social media played a crucial role in promoting the festival.The festival aims to provide an authentic Irish experience, not just a party.Community support is essential for the festival's sustainability.The festival has adapted to challenges, including the COVID-19 pandemic.Creating a family-friendly atmosphere is a top priority for the festival.The festival fosters connections between attendees and musicians.Quality vendors enhance the festival experience.Financial management is key to the festival's longevity.The festival aims to be a beloved annual event for the community. The festival will feature live rugby matches, enhancing the experience.Teamwork is essential for the success of large events.A shared vision among team members fosters commitment and ownership.Empowering individuals leads to better execution and creativity.Leadership involves allowing others to take ownership of their roles.Navigating challenges requires innovative thinking and adaptability.A CEO's role is multifaceted, often involving problem-solving at all levels.Passion and authenticity are contagious in leadership.Building a strong team is crucial for long-term success.Creating memorable experiences is a key goal of the festival. I need $4 million back in about two months.I thought it could happen, but it wasn't expected.I wrote them a check for about $62 million.Quality is what your customer demands.Sales drives revenue without sales, got no business.If you don't like what you're doing, who are you?You should be in love with your business.If I can prove that I can be out periodically, then I've built something.Chase the scary things and see if you grow.Help us build this thing together.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview05:35 The Journey of the Festival13:47 The Business Side of Festivals22:28 Building Community Through Music33:52 Exciting New Features at the Festival39:02 The Power of Teamwork and Vision45:10 Leadership and Empowerment in Organizations51:48 Navigating Challenges as a CEO01:06:54 Innovative Solutions in Crisis01:12:09 The Importance of Quality in Business01:16:56 Passion vs. Profit in Entrepreneurship01:25:08 Embracing Change and New Ventures01:30:50 Intentional Living and Personal GrowthBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.

SummaryIn this engaging conversation, we delve into the journey of podcasting, the intersection of psychology and business, and the importance of self-awareness in leadership. They explore how personal experiences shape professional growth, the significance of understanding one's core values, and the role of luck and opportunity in achieving success. The discussion emphasizes the need for authenticity in business relationships and the value of recognizing individual strengths within a team. This conversation delves into the intricate relationship between leadership, company culture, and employee motivation. It emphasizes the importance of balancing performance expectations with a supportive workplace environment, understanding employee motivations, and the necessity of open communication. The discussion also covers the significance of quality in products and services, the role of branding in building customer trust, and the importance of setting and managing expectations effectively. Ultimately, the conversation advocates for a pursuit of excellence rather than perfection in business practices.Click here to watch the YouTube videoTakeawaysThe podcast has been running for about two years with a focus on meaningful conversations.Editing and production are crucial for maintaining quality content.Blending psychology with business can enhance leadership effectiveness.Self-awareness is key to recognizing opportunities and personal strengths.Leadership is not just about management; it's about understanding people.Core values should guide hiring and team dynamics.Luck is often a result of being prepared for opportunities.Understanding personality types can improve team collaboration.Authenticity in business relationships fosters trust and alignment.Continuous learning and adaptation are essential in consulting and leadership. Leadership directly impacts company culture and employee retention.Balancing performance expectations with a positive culture is crucial.Understanding employee motivations can enhance workplace satisfaction.Open communication is essential for addressing performance issues.Creating a cohesive team environment fosters trust and collaboration.Quality of service must align with customer expectations.Setting clear expectations can prevent misunderstandings and frustrations.Pursuing excellence is more valuable than striving for perfection.Branding plays a significant role in establishing customer trust.Communicating expectations is key to successful leadership.Chapters00:00 Podcast Journey and Production Insights21:54 Leadership Lessons from Experience35:45 Understanding Luck and Opportunity46:19 The Impact of Leadership on Company Culture52:35 Understanding Employee Motivation and Growth01:01:40 Creating a Cohesive Team Environment01:09:18 Setting and Managing Expectations01:19:00 The Role of Branding in Customer TrustBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/brews-business--5630487/support.