Building Doors with Lauren Karan

In this episode of Building Doors, host Lauren Karan sits down with Ben Cryan, founder of Praxis Engineering, Axesse, and Carbon Trace, for a powerful conversation about resilience, engineering, data, AI, and the future of project delivery in construction and infrastructure.At 31, Ben’s life changed in an instant after a surfing accident left him facing 18 months in hospital, more than 55 operations, three months unconscious in intensive care, two strokes, and a kidney transplant donated by his mother. Doctors told him he may never walk again. But Ben refused to let that moment define him. One step at a time, he fought his way back to walking, back to engineering, and eventually into building businesses that are helping reshape how the industry understands cost, carbon, risk, and better design decisions.Ben shares how his recovery taught him the importance of community, asking for help, and never giving up. He also explains why data has always been central to the way he thinks as an engineer, and how structured project data can help teams reduce rework, improve decision-making, understand cost and carbon earlier, and create better outcomes across major infrastructure projects.Tune in for a deeply human, practical, and forward-looking conversation about what happens when resilience meets innovation — and why the future of construction will depend not just on AI, but on better data, better frameworks, and the courage to think differently.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Resilience, Recovery, and Rebuilding:- How Ben’s surfing accident changed his life and career- What 18 months in hospital taught him about people, family, and community- Why Ben never wanted sympathy, and what it took to return to engineeringNever Giving Up:- How Ben rebuilt his life and career after being told he may never walk again- Why his businesses are shaped by the same mindset that carried him through recovery- The role determination, patience, and courage play in both life and entrepreneurshipMental Health, Speaking Up, and Asking for Help:- Why putting a problem out into the world is the first step to solving it- How asking for help shaped Ben’s career in engineering and business- The importance of openness, honesty, and support in high-pressure industriesBuilding Businesses After Setbacks:- The reality of building an engineering consultancy and two technology platforms- Why rejection, resilience, and persistence are part of entrepreneurship- How Ben turned personal adversity into a drive to solve industry problemsData, Design, and Better Engineering Decisions:- Why “the data tells a story”- How structured data can help engineers understand cost and carbon in real time- Why early visibility of project data can reduce rework and improve design outcomesAI, Construction, and the Right Framework:- Why companies should not build AI for the sake of AI- The importance of getting the data framework right before adopting AI- How AI can support engineers by helping them filter complex information and make better decisionsReducing Cost, Carbon, and Project Risk:- How better data can help teams understand cost risk earlier in the design phase- Why embodied carbon needs to be considered alongside cost- The opportunity to deliver better infrastructure with more certainty and controlThe Human Cost of Poor Project Tools:- How rework affects design teams, project timelines, and people’s wellbeing- Why better systems can help reduce unnecessary pressure on engineers- How technology can free up time for deeper thinking, creativity, and better solutionsThe Future of Engineering and Construction:- Why AI will not change construction overnight- How engineers can lean into change without losing the fundamentals- Why the industry needs to think differently if it wants to deliver better projectsKey Quotes from Ben Cryan:- “Once we put a problem out into the world, we can actually solve it.”- “I’ve never wanted sympathy for my accident. I’ve never wanted to be treated differently. I just wanna be normal.”- “The data tells a story.”- “Never giving up is so powerful.”- “Building a small engineering consultancy is hard. Building two tech startups is even harder.”- “Don’t build AI for the sake of AI.”- “Things don’t change overnight, and our industry’s not gonna change overnight.”- “I made a career out of asking for help.”About Our Guest:Ben Cryan is a civil engineer, founder, and entrepreneur with more than 25 years of experience in linear infrastructure design. He is the founder of Praxis Engineering, Axesse, and Carbon Trace. Through his work, Ben is helping the construction and infrastructure sectors use structured data to better understand cost risk, embodied carbon, design decisions, and project outcomes. His personal journey of recovery, resilience, and rebuilding has shaped his belief in never giving up, asking for help, and using data to make better decisions.About Your Host:Lauren Karan, founder of Karan & Co. and host of Building Doors, is dedicated to helping professionals unlock their potential. Through insightful interviews and real-life stories, Lauren empowers listeners to create opportunities and thrive in their careers.How You Can Support the Podcast:- Subscribe and leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.- Share this episode with anyone interested in engineering, construction innovation, resilience, AI, data, project delivery, and the future of infrastructure.- Connect with Ben Cryan to learn more about Praxis Engineering, Axesse, and Carbon Trace.Stay Connected:- Follow Lauren and the Building Doors podcast on LinkedIn.- Subscribe to the Building Doors newsletter for exclusive content.Let’s Connect:- Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email us at reachout@buildingdoors.com.au.Thank you for listening! It’s time to stop waiting and start building.

In this episode of Building Doors, host Lauren Karan sits down with Stuart Cook, a multi-award-winning engineering leader who stepped into major leadership roles early, including managing a 400 million infrastructure program in his late 30s. Stuart opens up about career-defining opportunities, overcoming imposter syndrome, mentoring future engineers, and why the human element matters just as much as technical excellence.Stuart also shares his personal journey from following his grandfather on construction sites to raising three boys and rediscovering fishing. His honesty about insecurity, leadership missteps, and the pressure to be everything to everyone offers rare insight into what real growth looks like in the engineering and construction sectors.Whether you are an emerging engineer, an experienced leader, or someone fascinated by the future of infrastructure, this conversation will encourage you to rethink how you lead, collaborate, adapt, and build a meaningful career.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Leadership and Career Growth:How Stuart landed a design manager role decades ahead of the norm.Why building core technical skills is essential before chasing leadership titles.The truth about imposter syndrome and why even top leaders still feel it.Why the best leaders stop doing everything and start empowering others.Mentoring the Next Generation:Why mentoring only works when the mentee wants it.How organic, intentional mentorship shaped Stuart’s entire career.Why knowledge transfer matters now more than ever as senior engineers retire.Sustainability and Industry Challenges:Why red tape, not people, is strangling productivity in infrastructure.Stuart’s frustration with sustainability points that waste resources.The gap between practical sustainability and bureaucratic sustainability.How industry expectations must evolve to truly support net zero goals.Collaboration and Team CultureWhy collaborative outcomes depend on people, not contract structures.How simple rituals like weekly coffees and birthday celebrations build trust.The surprising importance of emotional intelligence for engineers.What it takes to unify SMEs, contractors, clients, and stakeholders.Personal Growth and LegacyWhy becoming a father shifted Stuart’s definition of legacy.How family, surfing, and fishing keep him grounded.Why being a good dad matters more than being a well-known engineer.Key Quotes from Stuart Cook:“I still feel deeply inadequate and insecure in my position, but you have just got to work to your strengths.”“You cannot mentor someone into success unless they want to be mentored.”“Some of the most collaborative projects I have seen were not collaborative contracts. They were collaborative people.”“We spend so much time chasing sustainability points instead of investing in real sustainable outcomes.”“Legacy does not matter to me as much now. Being a good dad and a good mate matters more.”About Our Guest:Stuart Cook is an award-winning engineering leader known for delivering major infrastructure programs, mentoring emerging engineers, and championing emotionally intelligent leadership in a traditionally technical field. From the Ipswich Motorway upgrade to the Coomera Connector South project, Stuart has built a career grounded in curiosity, humility, and passion for developing people.About Your Host:Lauren Karan, founder of Karan & Co. and host of Building Doors, is dedicated to helping professionals unlock their potential. Through insightful interviews and real-life stories, Lauren empowers listeners to create opportunities and thrive in their careers.How You Can Support the Podcast:Subscribe and leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Share this episode with anyone interested in sustainability and leadership.Connect with Stuart on LinkedIn to follow his work and insights.Stay Connected:Follow Lauren and the Building Doors podcast on LinkedIn.Subscribe to the Building Doors newsletter for exclusive content.Let’s Connect:Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email us at reachout@buildingdoors.com.au.Thank you for listening! It’s time to stop waiting and start building.

In this episode of Building Doors, host Lauren Karan sits down with Ashley Stewart, Project Director at Turner & Townsend, whose global experience across major events, construction, and program delivery gives her an extraordinary 360-degree perspective on Queensland’s future. From starting on construction sites in Scotland at 18 to shaping the Glasgow Commonwealth Games and delivering Canada’s Pan Am Games, Ashley brings a rare blend of lived experience and strategic insight.Together, Lauren and Ashley explore the state’s biggest challenges, from housing shortages to capability gaps to the cultural shifts reshaping the workforce. As the 2032 Olympics fast approaches, what will it truly take for Queensland to build a workforce ready for the world stage?Grounded, honest, and deeply human, this episode offers practical wisdom for anyone navigating growth, leadership, or the emotional weight of relocating a family across continents.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:The Realities of Migration and Major Events:Why relocating a family is far more complex and emotionally taxing than people assumeThe hidden financial layers of international migration (shipping, customs, housing, credit history, vehicles, schools)How Ashley’s experience across Glasgow 2014 and Toronto Pan Am Games informs her predictions for Brisbane 2032Why Brisbane is a different test case compared to London or LA due to city size, growth rate, and resource constraintsQueensland’s Housing and Infrastructure Challenge:Why housing shortages could become one of the biggest barriers to workforce growthHow policy, zoning, approvals, and red tape shape development timelinesWhy large-scale master planned communities may be essentialThe ripple effects: schools, healthcare, roads, and the infrastructure needed to support incoming workers and familiesHow the cost of living and interstate migration are reshaping South East QueenslandWorkforce Capability, Skills, and Diversity:Why Queensland faces unique skill shortages heading into the Olympic decadeHow long procurement cycles awarding work years ahead affect workforce planningThe alarming 12% decline in women in construction over the past yearThe role flexibility, culture, and workplace systems play in retaining women“You can’t be what you can’t see”: why visible role models matterHow technology, hybrid work, and outcome-based management can close capability gapsLeadership, Flexibility, and the Future of Work:Why flexibility is not one size fits all, and why organisations must redefine itThe dangers of “flexibility but” policiesHow trust, autonomy, and outcome-focused leadership strengthen cultureThe double-edged sword of remote work: freedom vs. the pressure of being “always on”Why leaders must build sustainable systems, not rely on individuals to “push through” burnoutThe Mental Load, Comparison Trap, and Redefining SuccessWhy so many professionals, especially women, feel overwhelmed post-COVIDHow social media distorts expectations around careers, parenting, homes, and successWhy intentionally protecting your inner circle changes everythingThe importance of letting go of comparison and building connections aligned with your valuesHow community groups like NAWIC and industry bodies build confidence, belonging, and supportCommunity, Networking, and BelongingWhy meaningful networking is about depth, not quantityHow newcomers to Queensland can build a professional community from scratchThe power of reaching out to new arrivals, women returning from maternity leave, and early-career professionalsWhy smaller events often spark richer, more authentic connectionsThe role of committees, advocacy groups, and industry organisations in shaping the future of constructionKey Quotes from Ashley Stewart:“I want to be able to push open doors that people thought were closed and hold them open for others to walk through behind me.”“If I had known how hard relocating with a family would be, I’m not sure I would’ve done it.”“Queensland is such an attractive place to live, but that makes housing one of our biggest challenges.”“Flexibility can’t be ‘flexibility but’, it has to be tailored to the individual.”“You can’t be what you can’t see. Visible role models matter.”“Sometimes you walk into your home and your kids run to you, and that’s the moment that makes everything feel worth it.”About Our Guest:Ashley Stewart is a Project Director at Turner & Townsend, with a career spanning major global events including the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games and Toronto’s Pan Am Games, alongside significant roles in construction, program delivery, and infrastructure. With deep experience across Scotland, Canada, and now Queensland, Ashley brings a unique lens to workforce capability, housing challenges, and the human realities behind major development cycles. Passionate about women in construction, flexibility, and leadership, Ashley is committed to opening doors and building pathways for future generations.About Your Host:Lauren Karan, founder of Karan & Co. and host of Building Doors, is dedicated to helping professionals unlock their potential. Through insightful interviews and real-life stories, Lauren empowers listeners to create opportunities and thrive in their careers.How You Can Support the Podcast:Subscribe and leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Share this episode with anyone interested in sustainability and leadership.Connect with Ashley on LinkedIn and follow Turner & Townsend’s workStay Connected:Follow Lauren and the Building Doors podcast on LinkedIn.Subscribe to the Building Doors newsletter for exclusive content.Let’s Connect:Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email us at reachout@buildingdoors.com.au.Thank you for listening! It’s time to stop waiting and start building.

In this episode of Building Doors, host Lauren Karan sits down with Ryza Garbacz, the second-generation Managing Director of NEACH, a leading Australian steel fabrication and manufacturing company. From humble beginnings in a small Noosa workshop, NEACH has evolved into a powerhouse supplier for some of the nation’s most complex infrastructure projects, championing regional capability and sovereign manufacturing.Ryza shares his journey from sweeping floors in his family’s factory to managing major tier-one projects across Australia, before returning to transform his family’s 50-year-old business. He reflects on lessons in leadership, authenticity, and the power of building loyalty through developing homegrown talent.The conversation explores data-driven decision-making, transparent communication, and creating a culture that thrives through change. Ryza also unpacks the resurgence of trades, the transition ahead for Australian manufacturing, and the importance of sustainable growth. He leaves listeners with an inspiring message about legacy, purpose, and building a business that endures beyond yourself.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Leadership and Legacy:How Ryza transformed his family’s business into a sustainable, future-focused manufacturer.Why true legacy means building something that thrives without you.Lessons from 50 years of continuous operation and what it takes to survive in a changing economy.Career Growth and Authentic Leadership:How working on large infrastructure projects built the foundations for authentic, people-first leadership.The power of humility, likeability, and transparency in advancing your career.Why trusting your gut and having hard conversations are essential leadership skills.Building and Retaining Talent:How to create loyalty and long-term retention through homegrown apprenticeship programs.Why investing in people early builds a stronger culture and business resilience.Insights into tackling the trade shortage and inspiring the next generation of skilled workers.Data, Decisions, and Sustainable Growth:How to use data to make smart, strategic decisions that keep your business alive and thriving.The importance of measuring everything and knowing your numbers “to the cent.”Why not all growth is good growth. Understanding sustainable scaling in construction and manufacturing.Resilience, Balance, and HappinessRyza’s personal journey from a high-paying corporate career to rebuilding a family business for purpose and lifestyle.Why choosing happiness, family, and nature over constant hustle leads to real success.The value of staying human in an increasingly automated, AI-driven world.Key Quotes from Ryza Garbacz “Authenticity in how you deal with people is everything; it creates loyalty and trust.”“True legacy is building something that can survive without you.”“Data doesn’t lie. If you don’t know your numbers, you can’t run your business.”“Don’t chase growth for the sake of it. Growth has to be meaningful.”“I chose happiness, and that was the best business decision I ever made.”About Our Guest:Ryza Garbacz is the Managing Director of NEACH, a second-generation Australian manufacturing company based on the Sunshine Coast. With a background in civil engineering and a decade working on major infrastructure projects across the country, Ryza brings a unique blend of hands-on experience, commercial acumen, and deep commitment to regional manufacturing. Under his leadership, NEACH has become a trusted partner in sovereign supply and sustainable growth across Australia’s construction sector.About Your Host:Lauren Karan, founder of Karan & Co. and host of Building Doors, is dedicated to helping professionals unlock their potential. Through insightful interviews and real-life stories, Lauren empowers listeners to create opportunities and thrive in their careers.How You Can Support the Podcast:Subscribe and leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Share this episode with anyone interested in sustainability and leadership.Connect with Ryza Garbacz on LinkedIn to learn more about his work and insights on the future of Australian manufacturing.Stay Connected:Follow Lauren and the Building Doors podcast on LinkedIn.Subscribe to the Building Doors newsletter for exclusive content.Let’s Connect:Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email us at reachout@buildingdoors.com.au.Thank you for listening! It’s time to stop waiting and start building.

In this episode of Building Doors, host Lauren Karan sits down with Scott Clements, Managing Director of Inertia Engineering, whose story is one of resilience, innovation, and leadership in an ever-evolving construction industry. Scott shares how he built his company from the ground up, navigated economic downturns, and even doubled in size during COVID, proving that adaptability is the ultimate advantage. He and Lauren dig into how AI and design automation are transforming civil engineering, cutting project timelines in half while freeing teams to focus on creativity and problem-solving.They also explore the realities of leadership, how to protect culture as you grow, hire the right people, and stay ahead in a rapidly evolving industry. From tackling labor shortages to reimagining the government’s role in driving productivity, this episode is packed with fresh insights and inspiration for leaders ready to embrace change and keep building, no matter what challenges lie ahead.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Resilience and Leadership:How Scott’s business grew through global crises like the GFC and COVIDWhy resilience and adaptability are key traits in engineering leadershipThe mindset needed to lead through uncertainty and growthAI and the Future of Engineering:How AI and automation are transforming design and project deliveryWhy communication and creativity will be the most valuable future skillsThe importance of learning to “interrogate” AI rather than fear itHow new technology partnerships are revolutionizing civil engineeringCulture and People:The secrets to maintaining company culture through rapid growthWhy hiring great people (not “mini-mes”) accelerates business successBuilding leadership teams that value diversity, autonomy, and trustIndustry Insights and Government’s Role:How Australia’s construction industry can boost productivity and innovationWhy government and industry collaboration is vital for addressing skills shortagesThe role of immigration and training in solving the labor crisisPersonal Lessons and Balance:Scott’s belief that energy, fitness, and family are key to sustainable leadershipThe legacy he hopes to leave for his team and the engineering industryKey Quotes from Scott Clements“In the new age of AI, the things that will matter most are communication and creativity.”“Culture doesn’t have to fade as you grow; it just has to evolve.”“If we don’t become more productive, we’ll all keep paying more for everything we build.”“AI won’t replace engineers, but engineers who use AI will replace those who don’t.”About Our GuestScott Clements is the Managing Director of Inertia Engineering, a leading civil engineering consultancy known for embracing innovation and sustainability. With over 20 years of experience, Scott has built a reputation as a forward-thinking leader who integrates technology, creativity, and culture to deliver impactful engineering solutions. From pioneering AI partnerships to mentoring future leaders, Scott is shaping the next generation of engineering excellence.About Your Host:Lauren Karan, founder of Karan & Co. and host of Building Doors, is dedicated to helping professionals unlock their potential. Through insightful interviews and real-life stories, Lauren empowers listeners to create opportunities and thrive in their careers.How You Can Support the Podcast:Subscribe and leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Share this episode with anyone interested in sustainability and leadership.Connect with Scott on LinkedIn to learn more about his journey.Stay Connected:Follow Lauren and the Building Doors podcast on LinkedIn.Subscribe to the Building Doors newsletter for exclusive content.Let’s Connect:Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email us at reachout@buildingdoors.com.au.Thank you for listening! It’s time to stop waiting and start building.

In this episode of Building Doors, host Lauren Karan chats with Erik Vandenberg, a seasoned leader with a fascinating journey from technical expert to executive in the energy sector. Erik’s career spans diverse roles in aircraft maintenance, oil and gas, and now, executive leadership in energy transitions. Erik reveals his insights into leadership evolution, the power of emotional intelligence, and the rapid changes in the energy industry.From navigating mergers and organizational change to making high-stakes decisions in critical environments, Erik’s journey offers valuable lessons on how to lead through uncertainty and drive meaningful progress. Whether you’re a seasoned leader or just starting in your career, this episode provides actionable insights for anyone looking to thrive in complex industries.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Emotional Intelligence & LeadershipHow emotional intelligence and curiosity shaped Erik’s leadership success and enabled him to manage teams through mergers and cultural shifts.Navigating Energy TransitionsErik shares how the energy sector is evolving and how businesses need to adapt to sustainability and technology shifts, including AI and decarbonization.Leadership ChallengesFrom technical expert to strategic leader: the skills and mindset Erik adopted to lead across diverse disciplines and industries.Lessons from the FieldReal-world insights into managing high-stakes projects in oil and gas, including a terrifying near-miss in commissioning gas turbines.The Role of AI in Leadership & BusinessHow AI is changing industries, but also the concerns it raises about workforce development and cognitive abilities for the next generation.Key Quotes from Erik Vandenberg"The skillset you need as a leader in technical industries is vastly different from being a problem-solving SME.""It’s a transition of emotional intelligence, not just retaining information. As leaders, you need to learn how to lead people, not just manage projects.""The energy transition isn’t a cliff. It’s a mix of solutions. Nuclear, gas, renewables, AI, all are part of the puzzle.""Leadership is about doing the right thing, having the right conversations, and making tough decisions, even when it’s uncomfortable."About Our GuestErik Vandenberg is a leadership expert with extensive experience in mechanical engineering, oil and gas, and the energy sector. Currently focused on leading growth during the energy transition, Erik’s career spans technical, operational, and strategic roles. Passionate about mentoring, he continues to navigate complex projects, always seeking the next challenge. Erik advocates for the importance of combining technical expertise with emotional intelligence in leadership.About Your HostLauren Karan, founder of Karan & Co. and host of Building Doors, is dedicated to helping professionals unlock their potential. Through insightful interviews and real-life stories, Lauren empowers listeners to create opportunities and thrive in their careers.How You Can Support the Podcast:Subscribe and leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Share this episode with engineers, contractors, and leaders in construction and infrastructure.Connect with Erik Vandenberg on LinkedIn to learn more about his journey.Stay Connected:Follow Lauren and the Building Doors podcast on LinkedIn.Subscribe to the Building Doors newsletter for exclusive content.Let’s Connect:Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email us at reachout@buildingdoors.com.au.Thank you for listening! It’s time to stop waiting and start building.

In this episode of Building Doors, host Lauren Karan talks with Matthew Mackey, a no-nonsense leader with 27 years in construction across the UK and Australia. Matt shares real-world insights on leadership, emotional intelligence, and navigating burnout in an industry that often overlooks people skills. He opens up about a six-week “disaster stint” in contracting, the power of simplifying complex ideas, and why kindness is essential, not optional, for long-term success.Matt challenges the myth of linear career paths and calls for leaders who admit mistakes and prioritize psychological safety. He also highlights how his networking group, Property Leaders Brisbane, supports professionals across Australia’s construction landscape.Whether you're early in your career or leading a team, this episode offers practical wisdom and a refreshing perspective. Real leadership isn’t about titles; it’s about creating environments where people can truly thrive.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Leadership That ConnectsWhy technical expertise doesn’t equal leadershipThe missing human skills: storytelling, empathy, and being "just a good human"Why EQ not just KPIs is the future-proof skillChanging a Stuck IndustryWhy innovation in construction starts with people, not just AI or procurement modelsHow legacy processes, rigid hierarchies, and ego block real progressThe myth of “the honest tradie” and the undervaluing of consultants in AustraliaCulture, Kindness, and the Cost of SilenceWhat “no-blame culture” really looks like and how it failsThe hidden damage caused by promoting toxic top performersCreating safe spaces for mistakes, feedback, and actual changeFrom Panic to PurposeMatt’s six-week contracting experiment and the lesson he’ll never forgetThe power of gut instinct and what happens when you ignore itWhy trusting your intuition is often smarter than following the titleBuilding Networks That LastThe origin of Property Leaders Brisbane and its grassroots missionWhy Matt stopped networking for work and started connecting peopleHow a side project became a platform for industry-wide impactKey Quotes from Matthew Mackey:“If it’s not a hell yes, it’s a hell no.”“Leadership would be easy if it weren’t for the people.”“We’ve built a whole industry of people talking about leadership. That tells you how big the gap really is.”“You don’t have to manage people to be valuable. We need other paths.”“I don’t want credit, I just want to grease the wheels for change.”About Our Guest:Matthew Mackey is a senior construction and infrastructure leader with over 27 years of experience across the UK and Australian markets. Known for his honest, often humorous take on leadership and systems, Matt is committed to transforming how we work, not just what we build. He’s the founder of Property Leaders Brisbane and co-host of The Shovel podcast.About Your Host:Lauren Karan, founder of Karan & Co. and host of Building Doors, is dedicated to helping professionals unlock their potential. Through insightful interviews and real-life stories, Lauren empowers listeners to create opportunities and thrive in their careers.How You Can Support the Podcast:Subscribe and leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Share this episode with anyone interested in sustainability and leadership.Connect with Matthew Mackay on LinkedIn to learn more about his journey, and check out his podcast, The Shovel Podcast.Stay Connected:Follow Lauren and the Building Doors podcast on LinkedIn.Subscribe to the Building Doors newsletter for exclusive content.Let’s Connect:Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email us at reachout@buildingdoors.com.au.Thank you for listening! It’s time to stop waiting and start building.

In this episode ofBuilding Doors, host Lauren Karan sits down with Michael Furey, leadership coach, former sales leader, and founder of We Aspire, to unpack why construction leadership needs a radical reframe. From being demoted in his first management job to building programs that train Australia’s future leaders, Michael shares how lived experience, failure, and values-led development are transforming how we build capability across the industry.Drawing parallels between professional sport and construction, Michael reveals why project leaders aren’t just managing jobs, they’re living a lifestyle, often with unsustainable expectations. He breaks down why authoritarian leadership is crumbling, why skills shortages are pushing values misalignment to the brink, and how even small changes (like asking your boss’s boss what they need) can kickstart massive personal and cultural shifts.Whether you're an aspiring leader or shaping policy at the top, this conversation is packed with real talk, practical insight, and a refreshing reminder that leadership isn't about knowing it all, it's about caring enough to learn.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Career Transitions & Personal Growth:Why Michael’s leadership journey began with burnout and a demotion, and how that changed his approach forever.The story of a junior leader who paid $8K out of pocket for training, and what it reveals about ambition, ROI, and the hunger for change.Why “fake it till you make it” sometimes works, and when it absolutely doesn’t.Real Leadership Development:The lie school teaches us about failure, and how it cripples leadership growth later in life.Why “being too nice” might be your greatest leadership asset.The missing piece in most corporate training: identity, belief, and emotional foundations.Why asking “What’s your boss’ boss’ intent?” could be your secret weapon.Industry-Specific Challenges:How construction mimics professional sport, and why that’s burning out both junior and senior leaders.Why leading in construction is 80% emotional intelligence, 20% technical ability.The unsustainable reality of six-day project weeks and how Capital Group redesigned the model.How the industry’s lack of trust is undermining leadership and learning.Future Thinking & System Shifts:Why expecting engineers to suddenly become innovators is a flawed strategy.How firms like Capital Group are proving courage (not comfort) drives lasting change.What the rise of AI and tech outsiders means for traditional leadership pathways.Key Quotes from Michael Furey:“Being technically good doesn’t mean you’re people-good.”“If you’re too nice to be a leader, we probably need more of you in leadership.”“Failure isn’t the end. It’s where the real learning begins.”“The biggest lie? That ‘it’s the thought that counts.’ Action always matters more.”“We train project leaders like it’s a job, but it’s actually a lifestyle, more like a professional sport.”“Sometimes I spelled ‘strengths’ wrong while teaching strengths, and that became the lesson.”“Don’t wait for your company to develop you. The ROI on personal investment is exponential.”“The leaders who stand out are the ones who understand what their boss’ boss is trying to do.”About Our Guest:Michael Furey is the founder of We Aspire, a leadership development firm focused on the construction and infrastructure sectors. A former sales manager turned coach, Michael blends lived experience, deep vulnerability, and industry insight to help emerging and senior leaders navigate real-world leadership. His new book, Shifting Foundations, captures insights from over 20 leaders across the sector—and is available for free via We Aspire.About Your Host:Lauren Karan, founder of Karan & Co. and host of Building Doors, is dedicated to helping professionals unlock their potential. Through insightful interviews and real-life stories, Lauren empowers listeners to create opportunities and thrive in their careers.How You Can Support the Podcast:Subscribe and leave a 5-star rating on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Share this episode with anyone passionate about construction, leadership, or meaningful workConnect with Michael Furey on LinkedInDownload his free book Shifting Foundations via WeAspireStay Connected:Follow Lauren and the Building Doors podcast on LinkedIn.Subscribe to the Building Doors newsletter for exclusive content.Let’s Connect:Want to be a guest or share feedback? Email us at reachout@buildingdoors.com.au.Thank you for listening! Remember: The best leaders aren’t waiting for doors to open, they’re building them.