
Built to Sell Radio
by John Warrillow
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Ep 561 The $40M Earnout That Never Got Paid, and the One That Did - Rob Walling and Garren Hilow
Aug 28, 2026
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Ep 560 Dane Pan Gave Up 4x to Get 100% Cash: Selling a $1.3M Amazon Brand
Aug 21, 2026
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Ep 559 The Good, Bad and Ugly of a $2.1M Searcher Deal | Built to Sell Radio
Aug 14, 2026
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Ep 558 $6M Wedding Marketplace Courted The Knot for 4 Years with Janessa White
Aug 7, 2026
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Ep 557 4 Types of Buyers Circling Your Business, and the One Now Doing 28% of Deals
Jul 31, 2026
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| 8/28/26 | Ep 561 The $40M Earnout That Never Got Paid, and the One That Did - Rob Walling and Garren Hilow | Garren Hilow bootstrapped Abveris, an antibody discovery business doing $12 million in revenue, and sold it in 2021 for $150 million up front with another $40 million available in an earnout. His team came within one percent of the revenue target. The acquirer said they had missed it, refused to share the accounting behind that conclusion, and dared him to sue. Rob Walling sold Drip with 40 percent of his purchase price tied to an earnout and collected all but a fraction of it. In this episode of Built to Sell Radio, John Warrillow puts the two founders side by side to work out what actually separated the two outcomes, and you discover how to negotiate an earnout you have a chance of collecting. You'll learn: Why a revenue-based earnout hands the acquirer the calculator, including the right to change how your revenue is recognized partway through the year Walling's ranking of earnout milestones from worst to best, and the one type he tells founders to refuse outright Why taking more cash at close makes an acquirer less likely to fight you over the back end What a private equity buyer admitted over dinner about how often his firm plans to replace the founder The reporting clause Hilow left out of his agreement, and what its absence cost him How old Slack messages and a verbal instruction to work from home became grounds for a termination with cause Why an acquirer who intends to fold your company into theirs should not be offering an earnout at all | — | ||||||
| 8/21/26 | Ep 560 Dane Pan Gave Up 4x to Get 100% Cash: Selling a $1.3M Amazon Brand | Dane Pan and his wife built Monet Brands to $1.3 million in revenue with two employees, selling a $24.99 skincare tool that cost them $6.10. When they took the company to market in 2025, nine buyers cleared the proof-of-funds screen and four of them wrote an LOI. The best offer came in close to four times SDE with a holdback attached. Dane countered for all cash at close, watched two of his four offers disappear, and signed at 3.6 | — | ||||||
| 8/14/26 | Ep 559 The Good, Bad and Ugly of a $2.1M Searcher Deal | Built to Sell Radio | One of the fastest growing groups of acquirers is the self funded searcher. A searcher is not a competitor nor a private equity group. A searcher is usually one person, often recently out of an MBA program, who puts ten to twenty percent down from personal savings, borrows the rest from a bank, often asks the owner to finance part of the purchase price, and signs a personal guarantee for the debt. Owners find searchers appealing for good reasons. They may pay your asking price, and they promise to look after your employees rather than fold them into someone else's operation. | — | ||||||
| 8/7/26 | Ep 558 $6M Wedding Marketplace Courted The Knot for 4 Years with Janessa White | In 2016, Janessa White and her business partner started Simply Eloped, a marketplace that planned elopements and small weddings for couples in 35 cities across the United States. They also decided, before they had a single customer, which company they wanted to sell it to. The Knot Worldwide, the largest wedding platform in the world. Over the next seven years, White told The Knot exactly that, met with their corporate development team every quarter for four years, and shared her revenue and margins with them along the way. When she finally emailed to say she was ready, the letter of intent arrived within a week. | — | ||||||
| 7/31/26 | Ep 557 4 Types of Buyers Circling Your Business, and the One Now Doing 28% of Deals | There are four types of financial buyers who might make an offer on your business, and more often than any other type, the one approaching you is an independent sponsor. It is an unhelpful label for a group that raises the money for a deal only after the seller has signed an LOI, which is also when the seller's leverage is at its lowest. Travis Jamison runs Capital Pad, where investors fund independent sponsor deals. He sees dozens of them for every one he approves. Independent sponsors are now behind roughly 28% of lower middle market acquisitions, which is more than traditional private equity does. | — | ||||||
| 7/24/26 | Ep 556 How Decamillionaires Think About Money. The 3 Digit Rule, Mistakes That Cause Founders to Walk Away From Life-Changing Offers, and Why the Best Thing About Selling Has Nothing to Do With What You Can Buy. | One day, you're going to sell your business, and when you do, you'll experience a step function increase in your net worth. Navigating that moment is something Adam Katz has spent his career helping owners do. He spent twenty years at Merrill Lynch as a Private Wealth Advisor to ultra high net worth families before he and his team left in 2018 to build KORE Private Wealth, an independent firm that grew to five billion dollars in assets. Just four years later, they sold. His new book, Making the Zeros Count: A Field Guide for Decamillionaires, Centimillionaires, and Billionaires, distills what he's learned into a playbook for owners who come into sudden wealth. Katz says the greatest benefit of wealth isn't what it buys. It's the freedom of never needing anyone again. Not your clients, not a boss, not a buyer. He argues that kind of independence is impossible to understand until you're on the other side of the deal, which is why, even after decades of coaching founders through liquidity events, he admits he is still adjusting to it himself. | — | ||||||
| 7/17/26 | sales trainingemployee performance+4 | April Dunford | B2B technology startupsObviously Awesome+1 | — | salespositioning+5 | — | 56m 31s | ||
| 7/17/26 | Ep 555 How to Avoid an Earn Out and Get Your Employees to Sell Like You, Featuring the World's Leading Positioning Expert, April Dunford | If you own a company, chances are you're its best salesperson. Put you in a room with a prospect and you rarely lose. But listen to your employees try to tell the same story and something gets lost. You've tried hiring salespeople. You've tried training them. The selling keeps landing back on your shoulders, and when it comes time to sell, an acquirer will see it too. Expect an earn-out or an equity rollover, golden handcuffs designed to keep the rainmaker locked in. Here's what most owners miss: you have a built-in advantage no salesperson can replicate. Your founder story defines the enemy, the problem, and why you built something better, and you tell it instinctively because you lived it. A new rep who tries to recite your story will sound like a fraud. The fix isn't better sales training. It's giving your team professional positioning, and nobody on the planet knows more about positioning than April Dunford. She spent 25 years as an executive at seven B2B technology startups, companies that were acquired for a combined total of more than two billion dollars, and her books, Obviously Awesome and Sales Pitch, are the standard playbooks for explaining why customers should pick you over the competition. | — | ||||||
| 7/10/26 | business exitentrepreneurship+4 | Jeff Church | Coca-ColaGoldman Sachs+1 | — | Suja JuiceCoca-Cola+5 | — | 1h 11m 58s | ||
| 7/3/26 | burnoutbusiness valuation+3 | Lee McCabeJason Swenk | PREScore | — | burnoutbusiness owners+5 | — | 41m 39s | ||
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| 6/26/26 | selling a businessETA buyers+3 | Will Smith | Acquiring Minds | — | ETA buyerentrepreneurship+3 | — | 54m 51s | ||
| 6/19/26 | business acquisitionwealth management+3 | Cameron Passmore | OneDigital | Canada | Cameron PassmoreOneDigital+3 | — | 47m 09s | ||
| 6/12/26 | business saleentrepreneurship+3 | Jo Swann | — | — | business salehappiness+5 | — | 26m 34s | ||
| 6/5/26 | business saleletter of intent+3 | Tim Hellebrand | Don's AppliancesBuilt to Sell Radio+1 | — | business saleworking capital+3 | — | 39m 03s | ||
| 5/29/26 | AIbusiness acquisition+3 | Jaryd Krause | — | — | AIbusiness acquisition+5 | — | 42m 05s | ||
| 5/22/26 | buyoutpartnership+3 | Sean Kernan | financial advisor support business | Dallas | buyoutpartners+3 | — | 47m 05s | ||
| 5/15/26 | M&Aentrepreneurship+3 | Dori Yona | EarnyCPG | Santa Monica | M&Aprice protection+3 | — | 47m 47s | ||
| 5/8/26 | Ep 545 $15M for 15 Employees — How Aaron Leibtag Structured His Pentavere Sale to HealWell | Aaron Leibtag was one of the most popular guests in Built to Sell Radio history. He sold his 15-employee bootstrapped healthcare AI company, Pentavere, for $15 million. Pentavere built AI to unlock patient data trapped inside PDFs and clinical notes years before large language models existed. The headline number was $15 million. What it did not reveal was the structure underneath. Part of the consideration was paid in the volatile stock of the acquirer. Aaron and his partners also rolled 49% of their equity into the new entity. Now Aaron returns, and you might be surprised to learn how it all played out. When it comes time to sell, most business owners want 100% cash at closing. Almost no one gets it. Most deals come with structure, and structure usually comes down to three levers: what currency the buyer pays you in (cash versus stock), how they keep you tied to the future after giving up control (earn-out versus equity roll), and what rights either side has to unwind the relationship later. | — | ||||||
| 5/1/26 | Ep 544 Why He Regrets Selling for 3.5X EBITDA | Boris Berenberg bootstrapped Atlas Authority, an Atlassian partner that resold Jira and Confluence to mid-market companies and built apps on top of the platform, to high seven figures in revenue with 18% net margins, then sold to private equity in May 2022. A year later he wrote a blog post titled "I regret selling my startup" that went viral inside the exited founder community. | — | ||||||
| 4/24/26 | Ep 543 From $32M Valuation to Fire Sale — How Ret Taylor Sold Ned After an Apple Update Crushed His Margins and Re-Invented Himself as a Spiritual Guide | Ret Taylor spent his entire adult life chasing a number. First it was $30 million. Then $10 million. Then $6 million. Then he sat in a tent at 18,000 feet on Denali with two Arctic storms closing in and realized the number was never the point. He came down the mountain, sold Ned, his natural remedies company, and now guides people through life transitions on multi-day vision quests in the mountains of Colorado. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter: https://builttosell.com/subscribe/ Curious what your business is worth? Find out now | — | ||||||
| 4/17/26 | Ep 542 The 15X Multiple That Let Him Walk Away in 12 Months | At some point every founder needs to ask a simple question: is it better to own a big slice of a small pie, or a smaller slice of a bigger pie? In this week's episode, we hear from someone who chose a smaller slice of a bigger pie. Simon Lorenz co-founded Klara, a patient communication platform for medical practices, and raised roughly $32 million across six rounds of outside capital before selling to ModMed at 15 times forward revenue. The path there was not a clean one. Every funding round was painful. Most of them came down to a single term sheet, take it or leave it, because an early valuation had set an equity story Simon spent years chasing. He hired salespeople he later had to fire. He took on an apparatus he could not easily shut off. And when ModMed's CEO first reached out, Simon almost ignored the email because the company had finally started humming and he was preparing another round. What turned a distraction into a deal was Simon's willingness to act genuinely uninterested, which pulled ModMed up to a price that made his eyeballs pop out. What let him walk away twelve months after closing was a single clause his lawyer negotiated into the contract. Subscribe to our weekly newsletter: https://builttosell.com/subscribe/ Curious what your business is worth? Find out now | — | ||||||
| 4/10/26 | Ep 541 Mastering the Deal: 7-Figure Negotiation Mistakes Founders Make When Selling Their Business with MIT's John Richardson, Author of Never Settle | Most founders think they're not great negotiators. John Richardson thinks they're wrong. Richardson has spent decades teaching negotiation at MIT's Sloan School of Management and before that at Harvard Law, where he was an associate at the Harvard Negotiation Project and co-authored foundational texts with Roger Fisher and Howard Raiffa. His new book is called Never Settle. In this episode, you discover how to Subscribe to our weekly newsletter: https://builttosell.com/subscribe/ Curious what your business is worth? Find out now | — | ||||||
| 4/3/26 | Ep 540 From $40K to 8 Figures -- How Murray Kent Sold His Electrical Conduit Business for 6.2x EBITDA | Murray Kent had no background in electrical conduit fittings when he paid $40,000 for a four-person business that, as he put it, looked like a bit of a crack den. What he did have was Value Builder's 8 drivers -- pinned to the wall next to his desk as a literal road map for every decision he made. In this episode of Built to Sell Radio, you discover how to negotiate a clean exit with no earn-out complications and no equity rollover. You'll learn: Subscribe to our weekly newsletter: https://builttosell.com/subscribe/ Curious what your business is worth? Find out now | — | ||||||
| 3/27/26 | Ep 539 Deal Collapsed at LOI, Sold for 6x EBITDA Anyway | Jay Richards spent five months deep in an acquisition process. He had a letter of intent. He had mentally checked out. He was planning what came next. Then issues surfaced in diligence and the deal collapsed. This week on Built to Sell Radio, Jay walks John Warrillow through the full story of selling Imagen Insights, a qualitative research platform with clients like Visa, Google, and Amazon, and how you discover how to navigate two very different acquisition conversations and come out the other side with a deal you are genuinely happy with. You'll learn why: an LOI means far less than you think, and how problems in your books can kill a deal founders who shop their company can signal desperation, and what Jay did instead the eventual buyer valued the business on EBITDA instead of revenue, and why that worked in Jay's favor Jay accepted an earn-out worth more than half the deal, and why he was comfortable with it handing out equity without vesting created a problem at the worst possible moment a long-standing accountant relationship does not guarantee clean books, and how this nearly killed the deal the moment the DocuSign came through did not bring relief, but a flood of new ideas | — | ||||||
| 3/20/26 | Ep 538 How 2 Brothers Bootstrapped AppArmor to a $40M Exit — The Answer That Almost Cost Them $20M | David Sinkinson and his brother Chris built AppArmor over eleven years without taking a single dollar from outside investors. They bootstrapped it by running side businesses, plowing the profits back in, and staying lean through long sales cycles and compliance-heavy buyers. By the time they were ready to sell, they had over 250 universities on the platform and roughly $6 million in annual recurring revenue — profitable, with no cap table to split with anyone. Then an acquirer asked them a simple question, and they answered it. That answer nearly cost them $20 million. Recorded live at the Value Builder Summit, this is David Sinkinson's second appearance on Built to Sell Radio. This time he goes beyond the mechanics of the deal — into the surprising struggles he faced after the sale, and a take on employee equity that is going to challenge what most founders believe. | — | ||||||
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Peaked at #28 in South Korea, currently #28 in South Korea.
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| South Korea | — | #28 | #28 | — |
| PE | — | #54 | #54 | — |
| Netherlands | — | #86 | #86 | — |
| BE | — | #114 | #114 | — |
| South Africa | — | #118 | #118 | — |
| Ireland | — | #121 | #121 | — |
| United Kingdom | — | #126 | #126 | — |
| New Zealand | — | #151 | #151 | — |
| PH | — | #156 | #156 | — |
| Australia | — | #178 | #178 | — |
| PT | — | #187 | #187 | — |
| Sweden | — | #189 | #189 | — |
| Canada | — | #194 | #194 | — |
| IL | — | #195 | #195 | — |
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14 placements across 14 markets.
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14 placements across 14 markets.