Cave To The Cross Apologetics

In the final part of the book, we cover Bahnsen's push to encourage all Christians to use the presuppositional apologetic approach. Bahnsen, true to form, pushes the antithesis between the supernatural Christian worldview and everything else. He starts with showing that all other worldviews have issues with change, unity, & diversity - a place where the Christian worldview can swoop in and provide the answer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vH_RnYfXx9g Atheist Admits He’s Trapped! Stein has been stymied and this atheist admits he’s trapped when it comes to his inability to justify his use of the laws of logic within the confines of his atheistic materialism worldview. Next week, we’ll look at his attempt to heap that same outcome on Bahnsen and Christianity. TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 01:37 – Atheist Can’t Understand Why Christian Wants To Talk About Logic 05:50 – Here’s The Deal 09:05 – The Issue With Falsification – For Atheists 15:30 – The Atheist Doesn’t Want An Explanation For Logic – They Just Want To Be Mad 17:00 – Atheist Admits He’s Trapped By Not Being Able To Explain Logic 18:02 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows Debate Transcript Video The Bahnsen Institute       All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DANORxTwme4 What’s The Atheist’s Metaphysical Basis For Anything? While this is supposed to be Stein’s 2nd cross-examination of Bahnsen, we see Bahnsen causes the atheist to stumble by trying to get him to provide the atheist’s metaphysical basis for anything – here specifically for math and the laws of logic. The Christian has a basis, one that the atheist doesn’t like, but that’s better than nothing or a lack of the ability to provide anything. TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 02:09 – Is Math Theistic Or Atheistic 04:30 – Math Is Christian Because It Couldn’t Be Anything Else 06:12 – Delving Further Into This 08:11 – Is No Other Explanation Needed? 09:27 – The Christian’s External Answer That Is Required 11:29 – Unreasonable Demand On The Atheist? 12:31 – How Does An Atheist Justify Non-Material Laws? 14:10 – How Does A Christian Know Logic Reflects The Mind Of God? 19:06 – Atheist Doesn’t Buy, Or Understand 20:34 – Atheists Don’t Desire Metaphysical Proof Of Other Concepts They Agree With BOOK LINKS: The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows Debate Transcript Video The Bahnsen Institute       All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeaWCLz68MY The Failure Of Atheistic Logic Where Stein has claimed that the laws of logic are only agreed upon but useful, Bahnsen is having a hard time accepting that – because it’s wrong. It’s up to Bahnsen to try and make the case for the atheist metaphysical use of the laws of logic. But it’s also up to Bahnsen to shoot those down too and show the failure of atheistic logic. TIMELINE: 00:00 – Introduction 01:57 – A Battle Of Worldviews 05:46 – The Atheist Doesn’t Have Reason To Use Reason 07:10 – The Christian’s Reason For Reason 08:08 – The Laws Of Logic Need A Mind 08:28 – Helpful Remind Of The Laws Of Logic 10:06 – Justifying Truth Of Logic Without Needing To Test It 11:42 – Not Proven Because They’re Used 13:40 – Logic Is More Conceptual Than Empirical 14:31 – Why Logic Can Always Be Used Consistently If They’re Only Agreed Upon 17:12 – If Logic Relies On People Only Why Don’t We Have Different Scholarships 18:49 – To The Library! 21:06 – Conclusion BOOK LINKS: The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows Debate Transcript Video The Bahnsen Institute       All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErkAm-0M8c0 A Little Greek, A Little Sci-Fi 2025 kicked off my goal of reading the great books of Western Civilization. So in typical fashion I read a little Greek, a little sci-fi, and a smattering of everything else. Indiepub still factored into the list with some hits and misses, just like the tradpubs. As always, the goal we should all have isn’t quantity it’s quality. But quality doesn’t just mean classic great books, it means books you enjoy and changes you and allows you to experience escapism and learn more about God’s world as He is the ultimate storyteller. TIMELINE: 00:00:00 – Introduction 00:04:14 – The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis 00:07:06 – The God Frequency by Douglas Hemme 00:10:40 – Amorphous – Breaking the Mold by Steven Burgess 00:12:06 – Spectrum Multiview Christian Ethics Four Views edited by Steve Wilkens 00:18:18 – The Peace War by Vernor Vinge 00:22:37 – Greek for the Rest of Us by William D. Mounce 00:26:05 – The Iliad by Homer 00:32:09 – Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie 00:34:31 – Flight of the Eagles by Gilbert L. Morris 00:37:21 – Sundered by Ernie Laurence Jr. 00:38:55 – Horus Rising by Dan Abnett 00:41:37 – The Odyssey by Homer 00:43:17 – D’Aulaires’ Book of Greek Myths by Ingri d’Aulaire 00:44:46 – The Secret Door by Jenny Phillips 00:46:59 – Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir 00:49:34 – Passing the Torch – An Apology for Classical Christian Education by Louis Markos 00:53:21 – The Core by Leigh A. Bortins 00:56:06 – Agamemnon by Aeschylus 00:59:10 – The Libation Bearers by Aeschylus 01:00:39 – The Eumenides by Aeschylus 01:02:29 – The Air We Breathe – How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener 01:05:11 – Adam of the Road by Elizabeth Janet Gray 01:07:00 – Maisie Dobbs by Jacqueline Winspear 01:09:45 – The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry 01:12:15 – Mr. Popper’s Penguins by Richard Atwater 01:13:37 – Oedipus Rex by Sophocles 01:16:36 – Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles 01:18:39 – Antigone by Sophocles 01:21:12 – To Be Continued Next Week Books mentioned in this episode: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis Kindle Paperback Audible         The God Frequency by Douglas Hemme Kindle Paperback Audible         Amorphous – Breaking the Mold by Steven Burgess Kindle Paperback           Spectrum Multiview Christian Ethics Four Views edited by Steve Wilkens Kindle Paperback CaveToTheCross Episodes – wwww.CaveToTheCross.com/ChristianEthics         The Peace War by Vernor Vinge Kindle Paperback           Greek for the Rest of Us by William D. Mounce Kindle Paperback         The Iliad by Homer Kindle Paperback Audible         Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie Kindle Paperback Audible         Flight of the Eagles by Gilbert L. Morris Kindle Paperback Audible         Sundered by Ernie Laurence Jr. Kindle           Horus Rising by Dan Abnett Kindle Paperback Audible           The Odyssey by Homer Kindle Paperback           D’Aulaires’ Book of Greek Myths by Ingri d’Aulaire Kindle Paperback Audible         The Secret Door by Jenny Phillips Paperback             Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir Kindle Paperback Audible           Passing the Torch An Apology for Classical Christian Education by Louis Markos Kindle Paperback Audible         The Core by Leigh A. Bortins Kindle Paperback Audible         Agamemnon by Aeschylus Kindle Paperback           The Libation Bearers by Aeschylus Kindle Paperback           The Eumenides by Aeschylus Kindle Paperback               The Air We Breathe How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener Kindle Paperback Audible           Adam of the Road by Elizabeth Janet Gray Paperback Audible           Maisie Dobbs by Jacqueline Winspear Kindle Paperback Audible           The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry Kindle Paperback           Mr. Popper’s Penguins by Richard Atwater Kindle Paperback Audible             Oedipus Rex by Sophocles Kindle Paperback               Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles Kindle Paperback             Antigone by Sophocles Kindle Paperback All episodes, short clips, & blog – https://www.cavetothecross.com