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The PE Guy - Johnny Hilbrant Partridge on grief, bouncing back, & an overnight success 11 years in the making
Jun 17, 2026
Unknown duration
Dr. Stephen Seiler - You're not Pogacar, don't train like him. Breathing, Polarized Training, Joy, & High Performance
May 13, 2026
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Veteran & Maine US Senate Candidate Graham Platner: Combat Fitness, True Strength, & The Defense Insecurity Complex of Hegseth, RFK Jr., and Elon Musk
Apr 21, 2026
42m 39s
Tour of Flanders & Why Our Kids Love Riding the Wahoo Kickr Core w Spencer Martin x Andrew Vontz of Beyond the Peloton
Apr 6, 2026
34m 17s
Art O'Connor / Wukar Fit - Iditabike, Ultra-endurance, & Strength Training for World Champions like Keegan Swenson & You
Mar 10, 2026
1h 17m 41s
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| 6/17/26 | ![]() The PE Guy - Johnny Hilbrant Partridge on grief, bouncing back, & an overnight success 11 years in the making | Choose the Hard Way is the show about how hard things build stronger humans who have more fun. — One of my favorite comedians is Johnny Hilbrant Partridge, aka The PE Guy. His comedy operates at the intersection of private equity, hyper-conspicuous consumption, and radical insecurity. He is hilarious, and if you don't know his work, you soon will. — If you want to laugh go to @johnnyhilbrant, if you want to know who Johnny is, you're in the right place. This conversation is about the decade-plus Johnny spent working to become a comedy pro that preceded him blowing up as The PE Guy. We talk about the way life events and the sudden death of his twin sister shaped who he is, what he makes, where he is headed, and more. — A quick personal update. After three rounds of chemo, my cancer treatment took an unexpected turn last week. A PET scan showed we were successfully killing cancer. But my doctors told me it wasn't killing cancer fast enough to cure me. I'm going back to the Dana Farber Cancer Institute for another biopsy later this week and when we get those results back, they'll figure out what my new course of treatment will be. — I'm confident we will cure it, and being in this limbo is scary, for me, and for my family. Whatever the road ahead is, we will get to cured, and I thank you for all of your love and support. — Please hit five stars and subscribe to Choose the Hard Way everywhere you listen. — The media landscape has changed. Scripted is out. Real is in. Being a great podcast guest or host and being able to operate in dynamic unscripted contexts isn't optional. It's now a mandatory skill for senior leaders and doing it well isn't easy. — That's why Andrew Vontz started __https://www.onerealvoice.com/__ to help industry leaders thrive on podcasts, panels and the internal and external high-stakes open-ended conversations where reputations are built and business is won. — When you're ready to be great, DM __https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod__ or reach out to hello@onerealvoice.com. — To support this work, become a paid subscriber to the Choose the Hard Way Substack at __https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com__. — With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today no experience required. — Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at __https://www.laufcycles.com__. — Andrew Vontz's Choose the Hard Way newsletter: __https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/__ — One Real Voice: __https://www.onerealvoice.com/__ — Instagram: __https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod__ — LinkedIn: __https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz/__ — Follow Johnny Hilbrant Partridge: __https://www.instagram.com/johnnyhilbrant__ — Johnny Hilbrant Partridge on TikTok: __https://www.tiktok.com/@johnnyhilbrant__ — Due to My Role: __https://www.duetomyrole.com__ — | — | ||||||
| 5/13/26 | ![]() Dr. Stephen Seiler - You're not Pogacar, don't train like him. Breathing, Polarized Training, Joy, & High Performance | Dr. Stephen Seiler coined the term polarized training and systematized the 80/20 method used by Tadej Pogacar, Kristian Blummenfelt, and the world's top endurance athletes. — From the New York Times to the podcasts of Andrew Huberman, Peter Attia, and Rhonda Patrick, Dr. Seiler's polarized training method and zone 2 and vo2 max protocols have become an often misinterpreted cultural obsession. — I'm on the Fast Talk Labs advisory board with Stephen and I thought it would be fun to hear directly from Stephen how he thinks about polarized training, its application for masters athletes versus World Tour riders Pog, to hear more about Stephen's emergent research into the relationship between breathing, training zones, and its application in real life. — This episode was recorded before I learned I had cancer. I just completed round two of chemo for b-cell lymphoma. Thanks to everyone for your support and positivity as I move towards being cured. I'm sharing about my experience @hardwaypod and on the Choose the Hard Way substack, and I'll be doing an episode about it soon as well. — A heads up, part 2 of this interview coming soon. I often have people who haven't been racing bikes and running their entire life reach out to me who have heard something Huberman said or read Attia's book Outlive asking for advice about how to do zone 2 and vo2 max workouts, aka polarized training. — For part 2, I invite Seiler and one of these athletes on the show to do a live case study and analysis. — Please hit five stars and subscribe to Choose the Hard Way everywhere you listen. — To support this work, become a paid subscriber to the Choose the Hard Way substack, link @hardwaypod on Instagram, in the show notes, and you can go direct at __https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com__. — That's where I share my thoughts about these episodes, my cancer journey, family, bike racing, zen, and life. — With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today no experience required. — Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at __https://www.laufcycles.com__. — The media landscape has changed and senior leaders must excel in unscripted forums like podcasts, fireside chats, and town halls. I started my consultancy One Real Voice at __https://www.onerealvoice.com__ to help industry leaders thrive in these open-ended and dynamic formats where reputations are built and business is won. When you're ready to be great, DM __https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod__ or reach out to hello@onerealvoice.com. — Stay tuned for part 2 coming soon. — Andrew Vontz on Instagram: __https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod__ — Andrew Vontz on Substack: __https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com__ — Andrew Vontz on LinkedIn: __https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz/__ — One Real Voice: __https://www.onerealvoice.com__ — Dr. Stephen Seiler on X: __https://x.com/StephenSeiler__ — Dr. Stephen Seiler on LinkedIn: __https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-seiler-668202a/__ | — | ||||||
| 4/21/26 | ![]() Veteran & Maine US Senate Candidate Graham Platner: Combat Fitness, True Strength, & The Defense Insecurity Complex of Hegseth, RFK Jr., and Elon Musk✨ | combat fitnesstrue strength+3 | Graham Platner | CrossFitRob Shaul's Mountain Tactical programming+16 | IraqAfghanistan+3 | Marine CorpsArmy+5 | — | 42m 39s | |
| 4/6/26 | ![]() Tour of Flanders & Why Our Kids Love Riding the Wahoo Kickr Core w Spencer Martin x Andrew Vontz of Beyond the Peloton✨ | Tour of FlandersWahoo Kickr Core+3 | Spencer Martin | the Wahoo Kickr CoreClick & Cog+9 | — | cyclingfitness+2 | Blockchain.com | 34m 17s | |
| 3/10/26 | ![]() Art O'Connor / Wukar Fit - Iditabike, Ultra-endurance, & Strength Training for World Champions like Keegan Swenson & You✨ | ultra-endurancestrength training+2 | Art O'Connor | train heroicWukar Fit training programs+9 | Maine | IditabikeKeegan Swenson+2 | — | 1h 17m 41s | |
| 2/18/26 | ![]() Sharice Davids - MMA fighter, Congresswoman, White House Fellow✨ | MMApolitics+2 | Sharice Davids | White HouseChoose the Hard Way+8 | KansasWashington | CongresswomanWhite House Fellow+2 | — | 47m 11s | |
| 2/12/26 | ![]() Jeff Troesch - Mental Performance Coach to NFL, MLB, NBA World Champions & Olympians✨ | mental performanceelite sports+2 | Jeff Troesch | One Day BetterNFL+13 | — | NFLMLB+4 | Blockchain.com | 53m 06s | |
| 2/2/26 | ![]() Friends, Sweat, & Tears: the Shocking AYF Finale LIVE from Pace Ranch in Tucson✨ | JK Normatec addiction interventionMt. Lemmon records+5 | Spencer MartinJonathan Kaplan | JK NormatecSciCon bike bags+12 | TucsonMt. Lemmon+1 | Pace RanchTucson+2 | — | 1h 02m 14s | |
| 1/21/26 | ![]() Abandon Your Family 30,000 Roundtable - Spencer Martin, Andrew Vontz, Jonathan Kaplan, Paul Redmayne✨ | gravel racingcycling+2 | Spencer MartinJonathan Kaplan+1 | EveresterBrooks saddle+11 | UAE | chamois creamcarb slurry+2 | — | 52m 12s | |
| 1/15/26 | ![]() Jens Voigt on East Germany, Parenting Six Kids, Crashing at 70 km/h and Life after 17 Tours de France✨ | East Germanyparenting+3 | Jens Voigt | ScriptedLauf+1 | East Germany | Tour de FranceHour Record+3 | — | 1h 08m 43s | |
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| 1/7/26 | ![]() Patrick J. Murphy - 1st Iraq War Veteran Elected to Congress - Former Under Secretary of the Army✨ | serviceleadership+3 | Patrick J. Murphy | CongressArmy+3 | United States | Iraq WarCongress+3 | — | 57m 33s | |
| 12/24/25 | ![]() The 10 Pack is Next - AYF500 Day 8 - Andrew Vontz, Jonathan Kaplan, Spencer Martin✨ | indoor trainingfriendship+2 | Jonathan KaplanSpencer Martin | ZwiftChoose the Hard Way+9 | — | Abandon Your Family 50010 Pack+2 | — | 40m 37s | |
| 12/21/25 | ![]() Frosted Flakes & Point Break - Chase Wark x WUKAR Fit x Andrew Vontz x Jonathan Kaplan - #AYF500 Day 6 | Chase Wark pounds Frosted Flakes & puts in 4.5 hours on a single bottle of water in his in-laws' 15-degree garage to pass the 760 km mark -- and Kip Taylor -- on the Abandon Your Family 500 leaderboard on day 6. — Art O'Connor, aka WUKAR Fit, strength coach to pro cycling's biggest names including Chase, World Champion Keegan Swenson and many more, reveals why Patrick Swayze is the secret to high performance on the trainer. — Jonathan Kaplan of Riding With reveals the indoor / outdoor hybrid approach that is taking D.C. and the Abandon Your Family 500 community by storm. — Spence logs off to continue to horde secret miles for a big reveal on day 10. — Andrew Vontz completes the Abandon Your Family 500, kisses Tempus Fugit goodbye, and just when you thought challenge season was over, drops details on the AYF Triple Crown series. — Heads up, we've got a full-length interview with Jens Voigt as you've never heard him before coming soon, stay tuned. — Follow along here for dailyish episodes here and to support this work, please become a paid subscriber of https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/. — DM Andrew on Instagram and let him know how your #AFY500 is going and anything you'd like us to cover in our daily updates. — -----The media landscape has changed. Scripted is out. Real is in. Being a great podcast guest or host + being able to rock in dynamic, unscripted contexts isn't optional. It's now a mandatory skill for senior leaders, and doing it right isn't easy. — That's why Andrew Vontz started https://www.onerealvoice.com/, to help industry leaders thrive on podcasts, panels and in the internal & external high-stakes, open-ended conversations where reputations are built and business is won. — When you're ready to be great, DM https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod or reach out to hello@onerealvoice.com. ----- — With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. ----- — Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at www.laufcycles.com. ----- —JOIN US: — Andrew Vontz's Choose the Hard Way newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ — One Real Voice - narrative, strategy and coaching for podcasts & high-stakes conversations: http://www.onerealvoice.com — Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod — Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz/ — Chase Wark: https://www.instagram.com/chasethebiker/ — WUKAR Fit / Art O'Connor: https://www.instagram.com/wukarfit/ — Jonathan Kaplan's Riding With newsletter: https://ridingwithkaplan.substack.com/p/riding-with-friends?utm_source=publication-search — Spencer Martin's Beyond the Peloton newsletter: https://beyondthepeloton.substack.com/ | — | ||||||
| 12/19/25 | ![]() #AYF500 Day 4 - Mad Watts: Carb Fury - Andrew Vontz x Jonathan Kaplan Reflect on the Event of the Year | Abandon Your Family 500 2025 Day 4 with Jonathan Kaplan and Andrew Vontz. Reflections on bad sleep, big carbs, and the skirmish between Front Range legends Andy Leach and Kip Taylor to top out first and complete #AYF500 in an FKT of under four days. — Day 4 sees the Kingpin, Big Spence, continue his secret training during the Boulder blackout. When will he switch his rides from "private" to "everyone" and deliver the big surprise sure to put him in the headlines? — Heads up. We have a full-length interview with Jens Voigt coming soon, and you will hear him in a way you never have before. — Follow along here for daily-ish episodes. To support this work, please become a paid subscriber: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ — DM Andrew on Instagram and let him know how your #AYF500 is going and what you would like us to cover in the daily updates. — The media landscape has changed. Scripted is out. Real is in. Being a great podcast guest or host, and being able to operate in dynamic, unscripted contexts, isn't optional. It is now a mandatory skill for senior leaders, and doing it well is hard. That's why Andrew Vontz started One Real Voice, to help industry leaders thrive on podcasts, panels, and in high-stakes, open-ended internal and external conversations where reputations are built and business is won. https://www.onerealvoice.com/ When you're ready to be great, DM: https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod or reach out to: hello@onerealvoice.com — With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Get started today, no experience required. https://www.blockchain.com — Lauf is the Apple of bike design. They make elegant products that just work better than everything else. https://www.laufcycles.com — JOIN US Andrew Vontz's Choose the Hard Way newsletter https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ One Real Voice. Narrative, strategy, and coaching for podcasts and high-stakes conversations https://www.onerealvoice.com Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz/ Jonathan Kaplan's Riding With newsletter https://ridingwithkaplan.substack.com/p/riding-with-friends Spencer Martin's Beyond the Peloton newsletter https://beyondthepeloton.substack.com/ | — | ||||||
| 12/18/25 | ![]() #AYF500 Day 3 - Boulder Storm - Andrew Vontz x Jonathan Kaplan - Abandon Your Family 500 2025 | Abandon Your Family 500 2025 Day 3 brings big drama when 100 mile-per-hour winds mean the power grid goes offline in Boulder and Big Spence has to skip the daily recording to keep banking secret miles to upload later at an undisclosed location. Meanwhile, Andy Leach powers over the top and dominates the leaderboard while Meg Volz enters the chat and shows her family what commitment looks like. Jonathan Kaplan of Riding With logs another signature indoor / outdoor Norwegian method dual threshold workout day and continues his love letter to High Fidelity with hopes of getting Nick Hornby into the challenge. Andrew Vontz shares the secrets that gets him through the moment that arrives every day when his brain says why are you doing this and his wife asks him if there's a better week than this to ride a trainer for 20 hours. Choose the Hard Way is the podcast about how hard things build stronger people who have more fun. The Abandon Your Family 500 is one of thousands of ways the Choose the Hard Way community around the world embodies this philosophy every day. Follow along here for dailyish episodes here and to support this work, please become a paid subscriber of https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/. DM Andrew on Instagram and let him know how your #AFY500 is going and anything you'd like us to cover in our daily updates. ----- The media landscape has changed. Scripted is out. Real is in. Being a great podcast guest or host + being able to rock in dynamic, unscripted contexts isn't optional. It's now a mandatory skill for senior leaders, and doing it right isn't easy. That's why Andrew Vontz started https://www.onerealvoice.com/, to help industry leaders thrive on podcasts, panels and in the internal & external high-stakes, open-ended conversations where reputations are built and business is won. When you're ready to be great, DM https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod or reach out to hello@onerealvoice.com. ----- With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. ----- Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at www.laufcycles.com. ----- JOIN US: Andrew Vontz's Choose the Hard Way newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ One Real Voice - narrative, strategy and coaching for podcasts & high-stakes conversations: http://www.onerealvoice.com Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz/ Jonathan Kaplan's Riding With newsletter: https://ridingwithkaplan.substack.com/p/riding-with-friends?utm_source=publication-search Spencer Martin's Beyond the Peloton newsletter: https://beyondthepeloton.substack.com/ | — | ||||||
| 12/17/25 | ![]() #AYF500 Update 2 - Kip's Stealth Century Knock Out - Andrew Vontz, Spencer Martin, Jonathan Kaplan, & Special Guest Kip Taylor - Abandon Your Family 500 2025 | A deep dive on the big action and family fallout from day one of the Abandon Your Family 500 in a groundbreaking conversation with Andrew Vontz / Choose the Hard Way, Spencer Martin / Beyond the Peloton, Jonathan Kaplan / Riding With, and the front range legend Kip Taylor (of Kip's Corner fame) making his highly anticipated Choose the Hard way debut. Andrew, Jonathan, & Spencer press Kip on his 11th-hour upload of a 105-mile ride on day one. Get a look inside the high-stakes world of #AYF500 strategy from one of the masters of the game in this discussion of the obstacles challenge participants are overcoming to get the challenge done. Country breakfasts, family feuds, entertainment recommendations, this episode has it all. Choose the Hard Way is the podcast about how hard things build stronger people who have more fun. The Abandon Your Family 500 is one of thousands of ways the Choose the Hard Way community around the world embodies this philosophy every day. Follow along here for dailyish episodes here and to support this work, please become a paid subscriber of https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/. DM Andrew on Instagram and let him know how your #AFY500 is going and anything you'd like us to cover in our daily updates. ----- The media landscape has changed. Scripted is out. Real is in. Being a great podcast guest or host + being able to rock in dynamic, unscripted contexts isn't optional. It's now a mandatory skill for senior leaders, and doing it right isn't easy. That's why Andrew Vontz started https://www.onerealvoice.com/, to help industry leaders thrive on podcasts, panels and in the internal & external high-stakes, open-ended conversations where reputations are built and business is won. When you're ready to be great, DM https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod or reach out to hello@onerealvoice.com. ----- With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. ----- Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at www.laufcycles.com. ----- JOIN US: Andrew Vontz's Choose the Hard Way newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ One Real Voice - narrative, strategy and coaching for podcasts & high-stakes conversations: http://www.onerealvoice.com Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz/ Jonathan Kaplan's Riding With newsletter: https://ridingwithkaplan.substack.com/p/riding-with-friends?utm_source=publication-search Spencer Martin's Beyond the Peloton newsletter: https://beyondthepeloton.substack.com/ | — | ||||||
| 12/16/25 | ![]() #AYF500 Special Update 1 - w Spencer Martin, Jonathan Kaplan, & Andrew Vontz - Abandon Your Family 500 2025 | Nothing says I love you like abandoning your family to get in shape for your endurance sport. The Abandon Your Family 500 is a challenge to ride 500 km on planet earth or on a virtual cycling platform over the course of 10 days brought to you by Choose the Hard Way / Andrew Vontz, Beyond the Peloton / Spencer Martin, and Riding With / Jonathan Kaplan. During the #AYF500, Andrew, Jonathan, & Spencer will be doing minisodes to share their experience participating in one of life's most rewarding experiences: having fun doing something hard with your friends. Follow along here and at https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ DM Andrew on Instagram and let him know how your #AFY500 is going and anything you'd like us to cover in our daily updates. ----- The media landscape has changed. Scripted is out. Real is in. Being a great podcast guest or host isn't optional. It's now a mission-critical skill for senior leaders. That's why Andrew Vontz started https://www.onerealvoice.com/, to help industry leaders thrive on podcasts, panels and in the high-stakes, open-ended conversations where reputations are built and business is won. When you're ready to be great, DM https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod or reach out to hello@onerealvoice.com. ----- With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. ----- Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at www.laufcycles.com. ----- JOIN US: Andrew Vontz's Choose the Hard Way newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ One Real Voice - narrative, strategy and coaching for podcasts & high-stakes conversations: http://www.onerealvoice.com Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz/ Jonathan Kaplan's Riding With newsletter: https://ridingwithkaplan.substack.com/p/riding-with-friends?utm_source=publication-search Spencer Martin's Beyond the Peloton newsletter: https://beyondthepeloton.substack.com/ | — | ||||||
| 12/13/25 | ![]() The Abandon Your Family 500 Challenge w/ Spencer Martin, Jonathan Kaplan, Andrew Vontz - p/b Kip's Corner | Choose the Hard Way is the show about how hard things build stronger humans who have more fun. This episode is about living that philosophy and how you can, too. Choose the Hard Way & One Real Voice founder Andrew Vontz, Spencer Martin of WeDu / Peacock / Beyond the Peloton, and Jonathan Kaplan of the Riding With newsletter / pod discuss the history and lore of the Abandon Your Family 500. The #AYF500 is a challenge to do what endurance athletes do best--focus on themselves, ignore their families and real life obligations and ride 500km between December 15 and 25. The second annual Abandon Your Family 500 kicks off soon. If you want to secure your mid-place finish at a Lifetime Grand Prix event or other gravel major in 2026, the time to get started is right now. DM Andrew on Instagram to join the challenge. ----- The media landscape has changed. Scripted is out. Real is in. Being a great podcast guest or host isn't optional. It's now a mission-critical skill for senior leaders. That's why I started my consultancy, https://www.onerealvoice.com/, to help industry leaders thrive on podcasts, panels and in the high-stakes, open-ended conversations where reputations are built and business is won. When you're ready to be great, DM https://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod or reach out to hello@onerealvoice.com. ----- With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. ----- Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at www.laufcycles.com. ----- JOIN US: Andrew Vontz's Choose the Hard Way newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ One Real Voice - narrative, strategy and coaching for podcasts & high-stakes conversations: http://www.onerealvoice.com Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/hardwaypod Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz/ Jonathan Kaplan's Riding With newsletter: https://ridingwithkaplan.substack.com/p/riding-with-friends?utm_source=publication-search Spencer Martin's Beyond the Peloton newsletter: https://beyondthepeloton.substack.com/ | — | ||||||
| 11/12/25 | ![]() Colin Allred - NFL, Congress, the Senate Race - United States of Sweat - with Andrew Vontz & Jonathan Kaplan | Former NFL linebacker & Texas Congressman Colin Allred joins hosts Andrew Vontz & Jonathan Kaplan on United States of Sweat, presented by Choose the Hard Way. Allred played at Baylor and for the Tennessee Titans before a neck injury ended his NFL career. He went on to earn a law degree from Berkeley, work in the Obama administration, and win a U.S. House seat in 2018. After a close Senate race in 2024, he's back on the campaign trail, running again to represent Texas in the U.S. Senate. Allred talks about the mindset it takes to survive the NFL—where, as he says, there's a 100% injury rate—and how that toughness translates to politics, parenthood, and public service. Plus: his favorite way to train and the one piece of workout gear he can't live without. --------- Jonathan Kaplan is the founder of WRITE CADENCE STRATEGIES, helping individuals and organizations navigate Washington, shape policy and manage reputational risk. He also writes RIDING WITH, a newsletter and podcast exploring the intersection of pro cycling, media, business and politics. Find that at ridingwithkaplan.substack.com.--------- For senior execs, pro athletes, and political leaders, podcasts aren't optional anymore. They're mission-critical. At One Real Voice, Andrew Vontz coaches leaders 1:1 to help them thrive as podcast guests & hosts and stand out in the long-form, open-ended conversations where real influence is built. When you're ready to be great, DM him @hardwaypod or email hello@onerealvoice.com. --------- The number one way to support Choose the Hard Way is to become a paid subscriber to alwaysthehardway.substack.com. That's where Andrew Vontz shares his reflections on these interviews and writes about engaged mindfulness, bikes and life. --------- Wherever you're listening to this podcast, please subscribe and hit 5 stars. ------------- Crypto curious? With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, https://www.blockchain.com/ is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Create your free wallet and get up to 10% in annual rewards by putting your crypto to work. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. ------------- Choose the Hard Way Newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ ------------- One Real Voice podcast coaching & strategy: https://www.onerealvoice.com/ | — | ||||||
| 10/22/25 | ![]() Dylan Johnson - Always Finish the Race You Start - The Long Walk at Big Sugar | Pro cyclist Dylan Johnson & Choose the Hard Way creator Andrew Vontz on why you should always finish the races you start. Choose the Hard Way is the show about how hard things build stronger humans who have more fun. This conversation explores why Dylan Johnson walked two hours in road bike shoes on gravel to get to the finish line in the Big Sugar classic, the final race in the 2025 Life Time Grand Prix. Choose the Hard Way has big plans for 2026. We need your help to make it happen. Please help me double the Choose the Hard Way community in the next three months. Share this episode with a friend, subscribe and take a moment to hit five stars and like this wherever you listen or watch. I share my reflections on every episode on my Substack, and the number one thing you can do to help me bring you more of these conversations is to become a paid subscriber. Find my Substack at alwaysthehardway.substack.com and you can always find the link in my bio @hardwaypod on Instagram and in the show notes. The media landscape has changed. Scripted is out. Real is in. Being a great podcast guest or host isn't optional. It's now a mission-critical skill for senior leaders. That's why I started my consultancy, One Real Voice, to help you thrive on podcasts, panels and the high-stakes, open-ended conversations where reputations are built and business is won. When you're ready to be great, DM @hardwaypod or reach out to hello@onerealvoice.com. Crypto curious? With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at laufcycles.com. LINKS Substack: alwaysthehardway.substack.com One Real Voice – narrative, strategy and coaching for podcasts & high-stakes conversations: onerealvoice.com Instagram: instagram.com/hardwaypod LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/andrewvontz Follow Dylan: instagram.com/dylanjawnson | — | ||||||
| 10/17/25 | ![]() 15 Minutes Is Enough to Train – Spencer Martin (Beyond the Peloton / WEDU) x Andrew Vontz (Choose the Hard Way / One Real Voice)) | Spencer Martin of Beyond the Peloton / WEDU / Peacock's Tour de France team & Andrew Vontz, co-host of the Beyond the Peloton podcast & creator of the Choose the Hard Way podcast & newsletter talk about why 15 minute training sessions count and how we get it done on the road, at the playground with the kids or at home. We're both dads, bike racers and recovering perfectionists who have found 15 minutes is plenty of time to get in an impactful workout. Marketing might persuade you to think you need an hour, a $20,000 bike, and a $12 recovery shake to stay fit. You don't. We talk about how to train when you're traveling, at your kid's soccer practice or living out of a GoRuck bag. Andrew shares why he always has a TRX and a GoRuck bag in his truck wherever he goes and brings it with him on the road. Spencer shares his Drago-style hill sprint workout secret and why carrying your child might be the ultimate force multiplier to build strength. This episode is part of an experimental series of short episodes exploring real-world functional training for real people with busy lives who are committed to staying fit. Whether you're racing Unbound, BWR, Mid South, Overland, Gravel Worlds, or just a busy parent who enjoys running, riding, lifting, hybrid training, Hyrox, or being able to get off the floor after a Netflix binge without injuring yourself, your fascia and breathwork will thank you for listening to this stunning episode. Leave a comment or DM @hardwaypod and let us know what you think of this new format. The number one way to support Choose the Hard Way is to become a paid subscriber at alwaysthehardway.substack.com. That's where I write about mindfulness, bikes, and what it takes to stay human in an optimized world. At https://www.onerealvoice.com/, Andrew Vontz coaches leaders to thrive as storytellers and stand out in the long-form podcast conversations where real influence is built. If you have a podcast — or are starting one — I can help you win from episode one and keep winning. When you're ready to be great, DM me @hardwaypod. Wherever you're listening, subscribe and do humanity a favor when you hit five stars. Crypto curious? With over $1 trillion in transactions, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Create your free wallet and earn up to 10% in annual rewards. Choose the Hard Way Newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ One Real Voice Coaching & Strategy: https://www.onerealvoice.com/ Beyond the Peloton Newsletter: https://beyondthepeloton.substack.com/ | — | ||||||
| 10/3/25 | ![]() Josh Turek - 2x Paralympic Gold Medalist - U.S. Senate candidate from Iowa - ex Pro Wheelchair Basketball Player | Josh Turek knows how to win. A U.S. Senate candidate, current Iowa State Legislator, and two-time Paralympic gold medalist for Team USA, Josh joins Andrew Vontz & Jonathan Kaplan on United States of Sweat presented by Choose the Hard Way. This is the show where politicians and policymakers share stories about fitness, health and the sports they love playing. Josh has faced adversity his entire life. Born with Spina Bifida after his dad was exposed to Agent Orange in Vietnam, he overcame 21 surgeries by the age of 12. Later he was cut from the Team USA wheelchair basketball squad six times. Relentless in his training and as a top professional wheelchair basketball player, Josh kept coming back. He finally made the team and went on to represent the U.S. at four Para-Olympics where he won two gold medals. After his basketball career ended with a gold medal in Tokyo in 2021, Josh campaigned to represent his hometown of Council Bluffs in the state legislature. Competing in a district that Donald Trump won twice, Josh pushed his chair up hills and crawled up stairs to talk to Iowans of all political stripes, eventually winning his first race by six votes. He was re-elected by a five-point margin at the same time Trump was winning the seat by eight points, not only because of his work ethic but because he's developed a reputation as a common-sense, bipartisan legislator. --------- Jonathan Kaplan is the founder of WRITE CADENCE STRATEGIES, helping individuals and organizations navigate Washington, shape policy and manage reputational risk. He also writes RIDING WITH, a newsletter and podcast exploring the intersection of pro cycling, media, business and politics. Find that at ridingwithkaplan.substack.com. --------- The number one way to support Choose the Hard Way is to become a paid subscriber to alwaysthehardway.substack.com. That's where Andrew Vontz shares his reflections on these interviews and writes about engaged mindfulness, bikes and life. --------- For senior execs, pro athletes, and political leaders, podcasts aren't optional anymore. They're mission-critical. At One Real Voice, Andrew Vontz coaches leaders 1:1 to help them thrive as storytellers and stand out in the long-form podcast conversations where real influence is built. When you're ready to be great, DM him @hardwaypod or email hello@onerealvoice.com. --------- Wherever you're listening to this podcast, please subscribe and hit 5 stars. ------------- Crypto curious? With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, https://www.blockchain.com/ is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Create your free wallet and get up to 10% in annual rewards by putting your crypto to work. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. ------------- Choose the Hard Way Newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ ------------- One Real Voice podcast coaching & strategy: https://www.onerealvoice.com/ | — | ||||||
| 9/10/25 | ![]() Pro Cyclist Payson McElveen - The Hardest Ride Is the One You Don't See - on Creativity, Pressure & What Comes Next | Choose the Hard Way creator Andrew Vontz (@hardwaypod) in conversation with pro cyclist Payson McElveen (@paysonmcelveen), Red Bull athlete and creator of the With Pace podcast & Riding with Pace YouTube channel. In a sport filled with mustaches, Payson McElveen has the most famous mustache. Payson's palmares includes a pair of wins at The Mid South, two marathon mountain bike national championship titles (2017, 2018) and his films and podcast are among the biggest in offroad cycling. His With Pace podcast is a great listen and one of the biggest in endurance sports. His adventure films are hugely popular and cover his own go-fast exploits including a White Rim FKT and an FKT for crossing Iceland under human power, not the power of lightning-bolt throwing deities. But the hardest ride is the one you don't see. There are hundreds of hours of Payson McElveen content out there and for an adventurer like Payson it seemed appropriate and more fun to go into new territory in this conversation. It was a fun one and I'm excited to share it with you. You can find his podcast With Pace everywhere you listen and get more Payson at www.withpace.cc and @paysonmcelveen on Instagram and YouTube. -------- Whether you've been listening since 2018 or are new here, the number one thing you can do to support this project is to become a paid subscriber to the Choose the Hard Way substack, alwaysthehardway.substack.com or just search for Choose the Hard Way in the Substack app. -------- The media landscape has changed and long-form podcasts are a mission-critical channel for anyone who wants to connect with their target audience and build influence. Former Strava executive / journalist / startup founder / podcaster Andrew Vontz started One Real Voice to coach senior leaders to meet the moment and be great podcast guests or hosts. If you have a podcast or are starting one, I also provide strategic guidance to help you create a road map that works today and over time. Set yourself up to win from the beginning and keep on winning with every episode. -------- When you're ready to be great, DM me @hardwaypod or email hello@onerealvoice.com. Crypto curious? With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. -------- Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at www.laufcycles.com. -------- This podcast is also brought to you by my best-in-class partners at Palm Tree Pod Co. They're a full-service podcast studio with end-to-end services to help any brand, business or individual take a strategic approach and standout. Find them at www.palmtreepodco.com. | — | ||||||
| 8/20/25 | ![]() Stephen Starring Grant - Author of MAILMAN: My Wild Ride Delivering the Mail in Appalachia and Finally Finding Home | Choose the Hard Way creator Andrew Vontz in conversation with Steve Grant, author of the memoir MAILMAN: My Wild Ride Delivering the Mail in Appalachia and Finally Finding Home. With rave reviews in The New York Times, the Washington Post, The New Yorker and The Atlantic, the memoir MAILMAN: My Wild Ride Delivering the Mail in Appalachia and Finally Finding Home is one of the hottest literary debuts in recent memory. Steve is a graduate of the Iowa Writers' Workshop and has been a marketing consultant and behavioral economist for more than 25 years. He's also an Eagle Scout and led the rebranding effort to transform the Boy Scouts of America into Scouting America and is the only person I have personally met who has both been shot by a mass shooter and has also made a movie about a mass shooter. Find Steve at www.stevegrantworks.com and on Instagram at http://www.instagram.com/stevegrant_mailman. A message from Andrew: Choose the Hard Way is the podcast about how hard things build stronger humans who have more fun. I am grateful to have a big audience that's growing fast and I would really appreciate it if you would take a moment to hit five stars and subscribe wherever you listen or watch. Whether you've been listening since 2018 or are new here, the number one thing you can do to support this project is to become a paid subscriber to my substack. Find the link in bio, go to alwaysthehardway.substack.com or just search for Choose the Hard Way in the Substack app. At One Real Voice, I coach leaders 1:1 to help them thrive as storytellers and stand out in the long-form podcast conversations where real influence is built. If you have a podcast or are starting one, I also provide strategic guidance to help you create a road map that works today and over time. Set yourself up to win from the beginning and keep on winning with every episode. When you're ready to be great, DM me @hardwaypod or email hello@onerealvoice.com. Steve and I overlapped in the early 2000s in Los Angeles when I was a journalist and Steve was working at an ad agency with my friend Emily, and many other human beings. Like every story there's more to Steve's than what you'll read in MAILMAN. Crypto curious? With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, Blockchain.com is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. Lauf is the Apple of bike design and they make elegant products that just work better than everything else. Check them out at www.laufcycles.com. This podcast is also brought to you by my best-in-class partners at Palm Tree Pod Co. They're a full-service podcast studio with end-to-end services to help any brand, business or individual take a strategic approach and standout. Find them at www.palmtreepodco.com Grab your envelopes and stamps and buckle into your right-hand drive vehicle, it's time to Mailman. | — | ||||||
| 8/7/25 | ![]() Rahm Emanuel - United States of Sweat | Rahm Emanuel was the U.S. Ambassador to Japan from 2022 to 2025. Prior to that, he served as the White House Chief of Staff from 2009 to 2010 under President Barack Obama, and as the Mayor of Chicago from 2011 to 2019. He also represented Illinois in the U.S. House of Representatives from 2003 to 2009. Welcome back to United States of Sweat presented by Choose the Hard Way where politicians and policymakers join us to share stories about fitness, health and the sports they love playing. Jonathan Kaplan is my co-host and the founder of WRITE CADENCE STRATEGIES, helping organizations navigate Washington, shape policy and manage reputational risk. He also writes RIDING WITH, a newsletter and podcast exploring the intersection of pro cycling, media, business and politics. Find that at ridingwithkaplan.substack.com. The number one way to support Choose the Hard Way is to become a paid subscriber to my substack, alwaysthehardway.substack.com. That's where I share my reflections on these interviews and write about engaged mindfulness, bikes and life. For senior execs, pro athletes, and political leaders, podcasts aren't optional anymore. They're mission-critical. At One Real Voice, I coach leaders 1:1 to help them thrive as storytellers and stand out in the long-form podcast conversations where real influence is built. When you're ready to be great, DM me @hardwaypod or email hello@onerealvoice.com. Wherever you're listening to this podcast, please subscribe and do humanity a favor when you hit 5 stars. Crypto curious? With over $1 trillion in transactions to date, https://www.blockchain.com/ is your trusted partner on your crypto journey. Create your free wallet and get up to 10% in annual rewards by putting your crypto to work. Go to Blockchain.com to get started today, no experience required. Choose the Hard Way Newsletter: https://alwaysthehardway.substack.com/ One Real Voice podcast coaching & strategy: https://www.onerealvoice.com/ Connect with Palm Tree Pod Co. | — | ||||||
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