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Hit Songs, Phil Valentine Memories, Trump Stories & “Arlington” w/Trace Adkins Pt. 2 :: Ep 44 Circling the Drain Podcast
Jun 24, 2026
56m 43s
Trace Adkins: Near-Death Stories, Oil Rigs, And 30 Years In Country Music :: Ep 43 Circling the Drain Podcast
Jun 17, 2026
1h 00m 09s
Life on the Road with David Allan Coe: Outlaws, Wigs, Boats and Blues :: Ep 42 Circling the Drain Podcast
Jun 10, 2026
1h 21m 46s
From Receptionist to Record Exec: The Sheila Shipley Biddy Story :: Ep 41 Circling the Drain Podcast
Jun 3, 2026
1h 19m 04s
Chris Golden on Oak Ridge Boys Legacy, Presidents, Elvis, and 478,000 Miles :: Ep 40 Circling the Drain Podcast
May 27, 2026
1h 20m 18s
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| 6/24/26 | ![]() Hit Songs, Phil Valentine Memories, Trump Stories & “Arlington” w/Trace Adkins Pt. 2 :: Ep 44 Circling the Drain Podcast | In Part 2 of our deep-dive with country icon Trace Adkins, we get the stories behind his most emotional and controversial songs, from “Honky Tonk Badonkadonk” to “You’re Gonna Miss This” and “Arlington.” Trace shares powerful memories from Arlington National Cemetery, his candid take on Donald Trump, and the radio days with Phil Valentine that almost got people fired.We also dig into his acting career, how he met his wife on a movie set, the wild origin of his dog “Gary Busey,” and why he believes live shows are now the only truly “real” part of the music business.0:43 – If Trace had to be in a tribute band forever, who would he choose? 1:36 – Waylon Jennings’ “Honky Tonk Heroes” and how it inspired Trace’s “Dangerous Man” album cover 3:25 – The grind of album photo shoots and making a real, gritty cover shot 4:12 – The Phil Valentine show, stepdad life, and getting sick of “Honky Tonk Badonkadonk” 5:44 – Why “Honky Tonk Badonkadonk” is cleverly written, not just a novelty hit 6:42 – How the song became the most-played country song in strip club history 7:44 – The backroom label deals behind certain cuts and how “You’re Gonna Miss This” started as a wedding song 9:00 – “I thought it was too sappy” – Trace misjudges a song that becomes a massive number one 10:26 – Ashley Gorley’s hit-making juggernaut and why everyone wants one of his songs 11:04 – Writing “American Made” for the country’s 250th anniversary 11:38 – “Arlington” and “An Empty Chair” – songs that choke him up on stage 12:04 – Performing “Arlington” at Arlington National Cemetery and barely getting through it 12:43 – Why Trace only does “Arlington” for the right audiences (and never for drunks or festivals) 14:04 – The true story behind “Arlington” and Lance Corporal Patrick Nixon 16:26 – Playing “Arlington” on air, Phil Valentine’s reaction, and the emotional weight of the song 17:04 – Remembering Phil Valentine: sparring on-air, sharp wit, and real friendship 18:34 – A hilarious voicemail from Trace and joking about “your little radio show” 19:22 – Rodeo memories, FCC close calls, and the infamous “hot and juicy” weather report 21:18 – Live radio chaos: open mics, cussing and thinking they’d be fired 22:16 – Trace’s new production company “Fifth Rodeo” and its cowboy-with-a-fifth-of-whiskey logo 23:14 – Why Trace doesn’t want the pressure of doing a podcast 24:07 – From tractors to Lululemon and voiceovers: “degradation” of the conversation 24:19 – “Ultimate Cowboy Showdown,” real cowboys and concern for the horses 25:25 – Why some ranch work still has to be done on horseback 26:08 – Trace’s Christmas show: Celtic vibes, stories behind songs and gospel roots 27:32 – Feeling good about the Christmas show vs. “I’m sorry, Lord” after “Badonkadonk” 28:08 – Is memorizing dialog hard? How years on stage made acting easier 28:58 – Directors who demand word-for-word delivery vs. those who allow improvisation 29:46 – Meeting his wife on the set of “The Virginian” in Vancouver 30:21 – How his wife writes, acts and why their dog is named Gary Busey 31:50 – The Christmas parade, a weird looking puppy and the Gary Busey hair and teeth 32:05 – Writing a song for the 250th and the Freedom 250 concert controversy 32:48 – PBS Fourth of July, Trump’s event, and shifting TV schedules 34:02 – The best Trump impressions Trace has heard and how Trump exaggerated his own persona 35:43 – Riding in Trump’s limo and getting asked: “Are you reasonably faithful to your wife?” 36:55 – Trump Jr. explains his job: “I follow him around and put fires out” 37:42 – Wanting to be Ambassador to Australia or the “Office of Hell No” 38:00 – How Trace judges Trump: “He’s a rich old asshole, not evil” 39:11 – New York real estate, DC politics, and why Trump didn’t need to run 40:00 – Meeting Trump on the plane: funny, warm, and totally different from the public caricature 40:31 – Touring Trump’s penthouse and offices: proud of what he’s built 41:04 – Negotiating through hyperbole: Greenland, Canada, and “shooting for the moon” 42:23 – Dave Chappelle’s take on Trump’s debate moment about tax loopholes 43:07 – Rand Paul vs. Trump on stage and how one debate moment flipped opinions 43:54 – Label history: Capitol, Show Dog, Broken Bow, Verge, and coming back “home” to MCA 45:22 – Why this next MCA album might be Trace’s last 45:32 – New artists he likes (Ella Langley) and why she “has every tool” 46:12 – Betting whether Ella Langley will stay country or go pop 46:42 – Not knowing many of today’s artists and thinking “Shaboozy” was a whiskey brand 47:32 – Loving traditional country and hopes for a pendulum swing (Zach Topp) 47:57 – Advice for new artists in the AI era and why live shows are the last “real” thing 48:54 – Getting fooled by an AI demo and how hard it is to tell what’s real 49:14 – Why you should never spend your own money if people truly believe in you 50:12 – Writing his book with twin collaborators and building the “roller coaster” story 52:33 – Immigration, politics and realizing parts of the book were prophetic 52:53 – Feeling uneasy before release and calling Charlie Daniels for advice 53:55 – Charlie Daniels’ wisdom: “People who don’t like you now aren’t going to read your book” 54:20 – Singing at Charlie Daniels’ funeral and what Charlie meant to him 54:51 – Why he probably didn’t sell enough books to worry in the first place 55:09 – Why there’s no audiobook yet and how a Trace-voiced edition could revive it 56:00 – Ideas for updating the book with new chapters and addendums 56:17 – Tease: Trace Adkins Part 3 is coming to Circling the Drain Follow Johnny B:https://www.facebook.com/john.e.bozemanFollow Jay Harper:https://www.facebook.com/harperjeffFollow Jim:www.jmvos.comCircling The Drain is produced by It's Your Show dot Cowww.itsyourshow.co | 56m 43s | ||||||
| 6/17/26 | ![]() Trace Adkins: Near-Death Stories, Oil Rigs, And 30 Years In Country Music :: Ep 43 Circling the Drain Podcast | Country legend Trace Adkins joins Circling the Drain for a raw, funny, and unfiltered conversation about survival, success, and the scars he picked up along the way.Trace opens up about growing up in small-town Louisiana, singing bass in church, working dangerous oil rigs in the Gulf, getting shot by an ex-wife, flipping a tractor, multiple open-heart surgeries, and why he still prefers hard work on the farm to life on the tour bus. He also talks about his breakout in Nashville, label politics, 30 years in country music, and how acting and voiceover work have kept him relevant.Along the way you’ll hear wild stories featuring Gene Simmons, Mark Wahlberg, Kurt Russell, Donald Trump, Blake Shelton, and more – plus why the national anthem still makes him nervous every single time.This is Part 1 of our Trace Adkins series on Circling the Drain.1:56 – Trace walks in like a superstar and why everyone respects him 2:26 – The only “tangible result” of being on stage: applause and then back to the bus 3:03 – Farm life, physical work, and needing something real to show for the day 3:50 – Taking down massive ash trees and chasing a chainsaw voiceover gig 4:30 – Losing a Steel commercial because he didn’t wear gloves 6:09 – 12+ years as the voice of Firestone and other national campaigns 6:42 – KFC, Farmer Boys, and ongoing work with Wounded Warrior Project 7:30 – Five daughters, Lululemon bills, and the idea of Trace voicing an athleisure brand 8:01 – Intimidating the boyfriends: hunting on his land and the “I could bury you here” moment 9:47 – Telling a boyfriend he “wasn’t going to make it” and helping him cut his losses 10:25 – Five daughters, three ex-wives, and being “five times more confused about women” 11:10 – Growing up in church: singing beside his granddad with that rich bass voice 11:40 – Discovering that “chicks dig the bass” in a gospel quartet at 17 12:43 – Hayrides, jamborees, and covering Haggard and Buck Owens 13:20 – Working offshore on a drilling rig and singing in the wheelhouse after 12-hour shifts 14:08 – Winning the Wild Turkey Battle of the Bands and coming to Nashville 15:00 – Club circuits, drugs, booze, and learning “everything you’re not supposed to do” 16:08 – Getting his first guitar at 10 and taking lessons in Spring Hill, Louisiana 16:42 – Why he calls himself a “lazy guitar player” and just plays enough to accompany himself 17:11 – Cutting off a finger and the chords he can’t play anymore 17:40 – The shooting: getting shot by an ex-wife and why he didn’t press charges 18:52 – Bullet through the heart and both lungs, Life Flight, and Vanderbilt saving his life 19:45 – Bleeding on the floor, protecting the new carpet, and passing out in the atrium 21:04 – Being 32, strong, and why that’s the only reason he survived 21:39 – Scars from construction work, broken arms and legs, ribs, and flipped tractors 23:15 – Tractor roll-over, crushed sternum, and calling a neighbor with a backhoe to save him 24:16 – Trauma surgery vs. scheduled open-heart surgery and the pain difference 25:14 – Why he doesn’t write songs about his craziest life events 26:00 – Capitol Records, meeting Scott Hendricks at baggage claim, and getting offered a deal on stage 27:06 – Being a big, striking presence and coming from a tall family 28:21 – Shrinking from 6'6" to 6'5" and feeling it in the joints 28:52 – Label politics after Scott leaves Capitol and refusing to go back into the building 29:29 – Almost throwing an executive out the window and the Patsy Cline “she’s dead” story 31:02 – New leadership, Mike Dungan, and how Tim DuBois helped push Trace’s career forward 32:17 – The Chrome era, bikes, and typecast biker roles in movies 33:00 – Deepwater Horizon, playing a furious parent, and Peter Berg demanding more intensity 35:30 – Manhandling Mark Wahlberg on set and the behind-the-scenes story 35:59 – Meeting Kurt Russell and seeing oilfield authenticity on screen 36:38 – Why that movie got the oilfield details right 37:01 – Taylor Sheridan, Land Man delays, and writers chasing the next “shiny toy” 38:53 – Yellowstone, spinoffs, and the risk of losing momentum between seasons 40:04 – Getting tricked into a faith-based movie (Mom’s Night Out) and only reading his sides 41:23 – Peeing fire as a demon in a field and calling it his greatest scene ever 49:00 – Gene Simmons on Celebrity Apprentice and how he changed the rules of the game 52:01 – Turning hot dogs into $5,000 donations and reshaping the show around charity money 53:07 – The mysterious “go to my room” invitation and the producer’s warning 53:52 – What Trace really thinks of Gene Simmons and his magnetism 54:08 – His take on Donald Trump and how “what you see is what you get” 54:34 – Why the national anthem still makes him nervous, from car lots to the World Series 55:52 – Respecting the anthem, the range of the song, and starting in the basement 56:47 – Land of the Free as the vocal high point and the challenge of the melody 57:16 – Reading music, Nashville number system, and forgetting trombone days 57:58 – Losing music programs in public schools and why that bothers him 58:17 – Country heroes: George Jones, Merle Haggard, Waylon Jennings, and more 58:48 – Hillbilly Bone with Blake Shelton and why Blake is always chasing the laugh 59:31 – Wrapping Part 1 and teasing more Trace Adkins stories to come Follow Johnny B:https://www.facebook.com/john.e.bozemanFollow Jay Harper:https://www.facebook.com/harperjeffFollow Jim:www.jmvos.comCircling The Drain is produced by It's Your Show dot Cowww.itsyourshow.co | 1h 00m 09s | ||||||
| 6/10/26 | ![]() Life on the Road with David Allan Coe: Outlaws, Wigs, Boats and Blues :: Ep 42 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | country musicoutlaw culture+3 | Mickey Hayes | Outlaws MCMy Life on the Road with David Allen Coe+1 | Florida KeysMiami | David Allan CoeMickey Hayes+3 | Milltown Bikes | 1h 21m 46s | |
| 6/3/26 | ![]() From Receptionist to Record Exec: The Sheila Shipley Biddy Story :: Ep 41 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | country musicrecord industry+4 | Sheila Shipley Biddy | Decca RecordsMusic Health Alliance+2 | — | Sheila Shipley Biddycountry music+7 | — | 1h 19m 04s | |
| 5/27/26 | ![]() Chris Golden on Oak Ridge Boys Legacy, Presidents, Elvis, and 478,000 Miles :: Ep 40 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | music legacyfamily+5 | Chris Golden | Oak Ridge BoysHeinz 57+3 | Alabama–Florida | Chris GoldenOak Ridge Boys+8 | — | 1h 20m 18s | |
| 5/20/26 | ![]() Larry Stewart of Restless Heart: The Frontmen, 80s/90s Country, AI & The Future Of Music :: Ep 39 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | 80s and 90s country musicmusic industry+4 | Larry Stewart | Restless HeartThe Frontmen+2 | Kentucky | Restless HeartThe Frontmen+5 | — | 58m 20s | |
| 5/13/26 | ![]() Californians, Old Nashville, and the Death of Class :: Ep 38 Circling The Drain Podcast✨ | Nashville cultureCalifornia transplants+4 | Jim McCarthy | Telecommunications ActUrban Cowboy | CaliforniaTennessee+6 | NashvilleCalifornia+7 | — | 51m 38s | |
| 5/6/26 | ![]() Is AI Killing Real Music? Jared Rogers & John Berry on Faith, Vinyl, Streaming and the New Nashville :: Ep 37 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | AI in musicstreaming+4 | Jared RogersJohn Berry | OprylandBridge We All Must Cross+1 | Athens, GAUGA | AImusic industry+5 | — | 1h 22m 51s | |
| 4/29/26 | ![]() Dan Mandis: From Dr. Laura To Marconi Winner & The Future Of Talk Radio :: Ep 36 Circling The Drain Podcast✨ | radio historytalk radio+4 | Dan Mandis | KFISuperTalk 99.7 WTN+1 | Los AngelesNew York+5 | Dan Mandistalk radio+5 | — | 1h 30m 30s | |
| 4/22/26 | ![]() Dez Dickerson on Prince, Hendrix, Faith, Talk Radio and Modern Rock :: Ep 35 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | music historyguitarists+5 | Dez Dickerson | Rolling StonesChristian music business+1 | — | Dez DickersonPrince+7 | — | 1h 07m 12s | |
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| 4/15/26 | ![]() Tributes, Cancelled Careers, And Nashville War Stories :: Ep 34 Circling the Drain✨ | music industrycountry radio+5 | — | — | — | tribute concertscountry radio+5 | — | 49m 34s | |
| 4/8/26 | ![]() Zoro: From Janitor to World‑Class Drummer and Minister of Groove :: Ep 33 Circling the Drain✨ | musical journeyfaith+3 | Zoro | Maria’s Scarf | ComptonOregon+1 | Zorodrummer+5 | — | 1h 26m 43s | |
| 4/1/26 | ![]() Today’s State of Radio: Losing the Industry, Finding the Podcast :: Ep 32 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | state of radiopodcasting+4 | John David Wells | Radio Row | — | radiopodcasting+6 | — | 54m 41s | |
| 3/25/26 | ![]() From Radio Row to Honky Tonk Hero: Scott Southworth on Music, Faith, and Finding Your Lane :: Ep 31 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | country musicradio history+4 | Scott Southworth | WLACScott Southworth and the Honky Tonk Anonymous Band | — | country artistradio host+5 | — | 1h 04m 39s | |
| 3/18/26 | ![]() Beat the Odds: Rock Drummer Sandy Gennaro on The Beatles, Cyndi Lauper, Joan Jett & Life Lessons :: Ep 30 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | rock musicdrumming+4 | Sandy Gennaro | QueenFortune 500+3 | — | Sandy Gennarorock drummer+7 | — | 1h 03m 42s | |
| 3/11/26 | ![]() Ron Allen on Nashville Radio, Jack FM, and What’s Next :: Ep 29 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | Nashville radioJack FM+4 | Ron Allen | Jack FMY’all Country+5 | NashvilleTulsa+1 | Nashville radioJack FM+7 | — | 1h 01m 51s | |
| 3/4/26 | ![]() Hauntings in Nashville: Hank Williams’ House, Ghost Cats, and Messages from Beyond :: Ep 28 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | hauntingsghost stories+4 | Jim McCarthy | Circling The Drain Podcast | NashvilleMiddle Tennessee+1 | hauntingsHank Williams+5 | — | 1h 05m 12s | |
| 2/25/26 | ![]() Bennie Shipley: From Small-Town Radio to Country Music Legends :: Ep 27 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | radio historycountry music+4 | Bennie Shipley | WLCKWCDS+3 | — | Bennie Shipleycountry music+8 | — | 57m 55s | |
| 2/18/26 | ![]() Radio Sales Gone Wild, Groupies, and Legendary Local Ads :: Ep 26 Circling the Drain Podcast✨ | radio salespromotions+5 | James Patrick McCarthy | WKRP | The BronxBirmingham | radio salespromotions+5 | — | 43m 26s | |
| 2/11/26 | ![]() Podcasts vs Radio, Nashville Stories, and the New Media Gold Rush :: Ep 25 Circling the Drain Podcast | In this episode of Circling The Drain, Johnny B, Jay Harper, and Jim McCarthy dive deep into the evolution of media: from old-school radio and movie theaters to long-form podcasts and YouTube creators. They talk Joe Rogan’s three-hour conversations, why podcasts feel more authentic than corporate radio, the rise of independent creators, and how celebrities have lost their monopoly on “cool.” Along the way, they share classic Nashville industry stories, memorable movie-theater moments, and real talk about niches, sponsors, and the future of podcasting. If you love behind-the-scenes media talk, Music City lore, and smart banter about where content is headed, this one’s for you.Timed highlights (chapters)00:00 – Why long-form podcasts work and the Joe Rogan effect 01:00 – Welcome to Circling The Drain and hitting 1,000 Facebook followers 02:15 – Live event plans, swag, and possible dancing “girls” 03:10 – Why podcasts feel more real than corporate radio 05:35 – Borrowing the casual Joe Rogan-style intro for their own show 06:50 – Saving Nashville’s stories so they don’t “circle the drain” 08:50 – Donald Trump, Joe Rogan, Bill Clinton, and the politics of “being cool” 12:00 – How podcasts bypass mainstream media gatekeepers 13:55 – Relaxed rooms, real stories, and uncensored guest moments 14:58 – Sponsors, networks, and the cost of giving up independence 16:40 – Indie podcasters, Casey Anthony, and what you can’t air 18:30 – Releases, legal gray areas, and learning from Howard Stern 21:25 – Does a podcast really need video to succeed? 22:50 – Radio faces, self-deprecating humor, and old radio war stories 24:20 – Too many podcasts? Why niche and interest-based content win 27:15 – The decline of movie theaters and the streaming habit 28:50 – Marvel, Star Wars, and the magic of audience reactions 31:20 – Missing the big moment because you had to hit the bathroom 32:40 – Jaws, The Exorcist, and when movies truly scared people 33:45 – What we lose when we lose the shared theater experience 34:55 – New media vs Hollywood and the Markiplier “Iron Lung” moment 38:00 – How TV shows like “Nashville” reshaped the city’s image 40:20 – Behind-the-scenes Nashville TV stories and diva moments 45:00 – Reese Witherspoon, Music Row, and early film memories 50:20 – Modern TV, Law & Order, and aging into “get off my lawn” 51:40 – Schitt’s Creek, Christopher Guest mockumentaries, and Spinal Tap 2 53:00 – What podcasts the guys actually listen to 55:20 – Interest-based media, Gary V, and why you must aircheck yourself 56:40 – Joe Rogan, business pods, and the power of authenticity 58:00 – Johnny B’s favorite artist podcasts and “jacking around” 58:45 – Launching a niche redfishing podcast: Setting The Hook 1:00:10 – Fly fishing shows, sponsors, and how deep niches can go 1:00:46 – Why most new podcasts never make it past a few episodes 1:02:00 – Insurance, bowhunting, and how to find a money-making niche 1:03:26 – Knowing your audience and just letting proven talent work 1:04:30 – Who actually listens to Circling The Drain 1:06:08 – Why these stories matter and where to find the showFollow Johnny B:https://www.facebook.com/john.e.bozemanFollow Jay Harper:https://www.facebook.com/harperjeffFollow Jim:www.jmvos.comCircling The Drain is produced by It's Your Show dot Cowww.itsyourshow.co | 1h 07m 27s | ||||||
| 2/4/26 | ![]() Ice Storms, Airwaves And Radio Wars :: Ep 24 Circling the Drain Podcast | Fresh off a nasty Nashville ice storm, Johnny B, Jay, and Jim unpack winter chaos, government blame, and why people still run to live talk radio when things get dangerous. From Phil Valentine tornado stories and Sheryl Crow calling out NES, to THC cookie misadventures, potholes, the Cherokee Nation fixing roads, and the slow death of music radio, this one is equal parts war story and radio therapy.Highlights: – Ice storms, tornadoes, and staying on the air when everyone else is stuck – Sheryl Crow vs NES, cloud-seeding conspiracies, and Trump as scapegoat – TDOT, busted axles, and how a tribe fixed what a city wouldn’t – THC cookies, on-air paranoia, and learning your limits – Being undervalued by management and realizing your leverage in radio – Why talk radio may be the last moat left in broadcastingFollow Johnny B:https://www.facebook.com/john.e.bozemanFollow Jay Harper:https://www.facebook.com/harperjeffFollow Jim:www.jmvos.comCircling The Drain is produced by It's Your Show dot Cowww.itsyourshow.co | 1h 02m 19s | ||||||
| 1/28/26 | ![]() Divorce, Nashville, and “Now What?” w/Brenda Golden :: Ep 23 Circling The Drain Podcast | What happens when your life flips upside down at 50? Former Oak Ridge Boys insider and Nashville industry pro Brenda Golden joins Circling the Drain to talk about starting over in her golden years.Brenda shares how a painful divorce, a cross-country move to Austin, and a complete career reboot led to her new book, “Now What?”. Along the way, she pulls back the curtain on life with William Lee Golden, working around Garth Brooks at his peak, the impact of Pam Lewis and Lib Hatcher (Elizabeth Travis), and how a little movie called “God’s Not Dead” became a turning point.If you’ve ever lost a job, a marriage, or a sense of who you are and thought, “Now what?”, this conversation is for you.Timed highlights: 1:10 Brenda’s book origin story and turning 50 in chaos 2:40 Moving from Nashville to Austin and finding an arts-first city 3:55 South by Southwest and representing artists at the festival 5:10 Brenda’s early music-business days and Nashville connections 6:40 How she met William Lee Golden and joined the Oak Ridge Boys 8:30 Marriage, family life, and their son Solomon’s path to medicine 9:40 Why Solomon chose EMT/paramedic work over music 11:55 Ongoing ties with the Oak Ridge Boys and concern for Richard Sterban 13:20 Joe Bonsall’s passing and helping him land his first book deal 14:30 Crossing paths with Jay at MCA in the mid-80s 15:10 Becoming William’s personal assistant and the MCA solo record 16:00 Meeting powerhouse publicist/manager Pam Lewis 17:30 Hitting rock bottom financially and asking Pam for a job 19:00 “Do you want a career or a paycheck?” – Pam’s tough-love moment 20:10 Learning PR, marketing, and sponsorships around Garth Brooks 21:35 How that mentorship permanently changed Brenda’s career 22:30 Reinventing at 50 and reaching out to Lib Hatcher (Elizabeth Travis) 24:00 Lib’s advice: “You’re going to have to reinvent yourself” 25:40 The film “God’s Not Dead” and its unexpected impact on Brenda 28:00 Feeling seen by God in the middle of a breakdown 30:30 Lib’s own reinvention and success in film and Pure Flix 32:40 Moving to Austin, turning 62, and what life looks like now 34:10 Meeting and briefly working with Frank Stallone 36:40 Longstanding friendships and business ties back in Nashville 38:30 Why Brenda wrote “Now What?” and who it’s really for 40:40 Finding hope, purpose, and community after major life changes 42:40 Two-stepping in Texas, strong dance partners, and playful banter 43:40 Wrap-up, where to find “Now What?”, and Circling the Drain outroFollow Johnny B:https://www.facebook.com/john.e.bozemanFollow Jay Harper:https://www.facebook.com/harperjeffFollow Jim:www.jmvos.comCircling The Drain is produced by It's Your Show dot Cowww.itsyourshow.co | 45m 13s | ||||||
| 1/21/26 | ![]() Bill Cuomo: From “Bette Davis Eyes” to Barbra, Skynyrd & Studio War Stories :: Ep 22 Circling the Drain | Legendary keyboardist, writer, and producer Bill Cuomo joins Circling The Drain to share six decades of music-industry stories. From crafting the iconic intros to “Bette Davis Eyes” and “Oh Sherrie” to working with Alabama, Trace Adkins, Herb Alpert, Barbra Streisand, Little River Band, Lynyrd Skynyrd**, and more, Bill walks through the evolution of recording from analog to digital, lawsuits with major brands, and why he prefers the studio over the road. He also opens up about surviving Catholic school, building a dome house in the forest, moving from LA to Nashville, and what AI means for today’s musicians. Candid, funny, and brutally honest.**Episode Highlights:** - 0:04:18 – Leaving LA and choosing Nashville - 0:06:31 – Building a 5,500 sq ft Arrington home and basement studio - 0:09:37 – Alabama, Trace Adkins, and “firing” himself from country - 0:15:43 – Becoming “the intro guy” and tape-era risks - 0:16:20 – Crafting the “Oh Sherrie” intro at home - 0:21:57 – Analog vs. digital and why he kept his console - 0:29:38 – Watching Little Richard destroy pianos nightly - 0:32:58 – Why he prefers the studio to the road - 0:38:24 – “Welcome to Tennessee” and handshake deals - 0:40:07 – Suing Ford and J. Walter Thompson over “Oh Sherrie” - 1:02:27 – Gospel work and being a “recovering Catholic” - 1:10:36 – Trace Adkins and Nashville’s work ethic - 1:13:05 – Inside the Barbra Streisand / Kim Carnes duet - 1:24:54 – Reimagining “Bette Davis Eyes” - 1:30:23 – AI, voices, and the future of music - 1:33:30 – Skynyrd, Ed King, and “Sweet Home Alabama” money Listen and subscribe at www.circlingthedrain.netFollow Johnny B:https://www.facebook.com/john.e.bozemanFollow Jay Harper:https://www.facebook.com/harperjeffFollow Jim:www.jmvos.comCircling The Drain is produced by It's Your Show dot Cowww.itsyourshow.co | 1h 39m 21s | ||||||
| 1/14/26 | ![]() Backstage Legends: From Glen Campbell to Trump’s Plane :: Ep 21 Circling the Drain | Johnny B, Jay Harper, and Jim McCarthy dive into their most memorable celebrity encounters from decades in radio, records, and concert production.You’ll hear stories about:The gherm-iest radio promo guy in a stained satin jacketDelivering a giant get‑well card to Amy Grant in a dying station vehicleGlen Campbell shredding in an Opry dressing room and cracking jokes at the urinalA Steve Earle meeting that went from dream chat to guarded on‑air interviewHank Thompson’s rough day and sincere later apologyWhy Raul Malo and The Mavericks should have been massiveBoarding Donald Trump’s private plane during the 2016 campaignJerry Lee Lewis at the Stockyard, an impatient Kenny Rogers backstage,Trace Adkins calling in after a rant, plus memories of Jimmy Dean, Roy Clark, and moreA funny, honest look at how fame collides with real human moods—and why backstage is usually the worst place to watch a show.Follow Johnny B:https://www.facebook.com/john.e.bozemanFollow Jay Harper:https://www.facebook.com/harperjeffFollow Jim:www.jmvos.comCircling The Drain is produced by It's Your Show dot Cowww.itsyourshow.co | 56m 37s | ||||||
| 1/7/26 | ![]() Deborah Allen: From “Baby I Lied” to Elvis’ Bus and Back Again :: Ep 20 Circling the Drain Podcast | In this episode, country artist and hit songwriter Deborah Allen joins the Three J’s for a warm, funny, and deeply personal conversation.Deborah shares:The story and long tail of her signature hit “Baby I Lied”Early days at Opryland, touring Russia with Tennessee Ernie Ford, and how Shel Silverstein nudged her into songwritingGrowing up in Memphis around the sounds of Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Willie Mitchell, Al Green, and the Hodges brothersHow she wound up sleeping on Elvis’ tour bus and later cutting pioneering overdub duets with Jim Reeves as “The Mystery Girl”Getting a brand-new song from Prince after a brief meeting at Sunset SoundA major health scare, surgery at Vanderbilt with Dr. James Netterville, and why she says “the devil’s not stealing my smile”Celebrating her mom’s 100th birthday, her mom’s younger boyfriend Ed, and the belief that every person you meet is a giftHighlights & Timestamps0:40 – Introduction to Deborah & “Baby I Lied” on country, pop, and AC radio7:35 – Opryland, Tennessee Ernie Ford, Russia tour & meeting Shel Silverstein12:19 – Memphis influences: Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, Willie Mitchell, Al Green18:39 – Elvis’ bus at her parents’ shop & “I slept in Elvis’ bed”23:10 – Overdubbing duets with Jim Reeves & the “Mystery Girl” campaign29:30 – Pushing for her own songs at MCA & “Don’t Worry ’Bout Me Baby”34:56 – Writing hits for others: Patty Loveless and “Hurt Me Bad (In a Real Good Way)”35:06 – Prince writes her a song as Joey Coco after a Sunset Sound encounter41:33 – Her mom at 100, Ed’s nightly visits, and Opry birthday roses50:12 – Metastatic carcinoma scare, holistic support, and successful surgery1:01:22 – How old friendships (doctors, musicians, neighbors) ended up saving herFollow Johnny B:https://www.facebook.com/john.e.bozemanFollow Jay Harper:https://www.facebook.com/harperjeffFollow Jim:www.jmvos.comCircling The Drain is produced by It's Your Show dot Cowww.itsyourshow.co | 1h 03m 20s | ||||||
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