
Body Focused Repetitive Behaviours (BFRBs) with Professor Clare Mackay
From Conversations with Annalisa Barbieri by Annalisa Barbieri
January 15, 2026 · 47 min · Season 11 · Episode 2
About this episode
Annalisa Barbieri discusses Body Focused Repetitive Behaviours with Professor Clare Mackay, exploring their implications and neuroscience.
Welcome back to Series 11 and episode 3. What are BFRBs? It's picking, biting or pulling, skin, nails or hair or Body Focused Repetitive Behaviours. Here I’m in conversation with Professor Clare Mackay, Professor of Neuroscience at the University of Oxford. Professor Mackay has spent over thirty years studying the structure and function of the human brain. In 2023 she turned her attention to a disorder she’d been living with for most of her life: hair pulling, which comes under the umbrella of BFRBS. BFRBs are often done unconsciously at first and, as we’ll learn, are a throw back to primate grooming behaviour gone a bit awry. Most of us do have some BFRBs, we may pick the skin around our nails, or bite our nails or even become fixated with plucking that stray hair, but it’s when it goes into overdrive that it can become a problem. In this episode we find out about a fascinating neuron which surrounds every hair follicle called the CT fibre, which, when stimulated (stroked etc) by someone we trust releases endorphins. This is why we love having our hair or skin stroked or touched (or those fabulous head massages!). If you'd like to listen to this episode, past or…
People in this episode
Host: Annalisa Barbieri
Guest: Professor Clare Mackay
Topics covered
- Body Focused Repetitive Behaviours
- neuroscience
- mental health
- hair pulling
- skin picking
- endorphins
Keywords
- BFRBs
- neuroscience
- hair pulling
- skin picking
- endorphins
- CT fibre
- mental health
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: University of Oxford
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