The Global Re-Order

The Global Re-Order

From DealBook Summit by The New York Times

December 6, 2025 · 1h 17m · Season 3 · Episode 13

About this episode

The episode discusses the transformation of the global order under the Trump administration and its implications.

Watch all of the day’s interviews: As we approach a full year of the Trump administration, the president has transformed the world order. Old institutions like NATO, the United Nations and the World Trade Organization are diminished, even in doubt, and the old trade regime and assumptions about alliances are gone. Relationships are transactional, and soft power is scoffed at. Traditional adversaries like Russia win praise, while there is talk about taking over Canada and Greenland. This is driven not only by those at the top but also by deep shifts to the right in electorates across the West, including in the Netherlands, Germany, Italy and elsewhere. Liberals and liberal values alike seem to be in retreat. Uncertainties dominate: How will China, North Korea and other nations respond to this new world order, and will they see it as an opportunity for adventurism? In this discussion, we asked: Where are we now? And what are the real-world ramifications of these policies, and are they lasting? Panelists: Ehud Barak, Former Prime Minister of Israel; Senator Chris Coons, Democrat of Delaware and a member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations; Mark T. Esper, Former U.S…

People in this episode

Guests: Ehud Barak, Chris Coons, Mark T. Esper, Avril Haines, David H. Petraeus, Samantha Power

Topics covered

  • global politics
  • Trump administration
  • international relations
  • trade
  • soft power
  • electoral shifts
  • foreign policy

Keywords

  • Trump administration
  • global order
  • NATO
  • trade regime
  • soft power
  • foreign relations
  • electoral shifts
  • China
  • North Korea

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Trump administration, NATO, United Nations, World Trade Organization

Places: Canada, Greenland, Netherlands, Germany, Italy, China, North Korea

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