The New Rules for Leadership
From DealBook Summit by The New York Times
December 8, 2025 · 1h 17m · Season 3 · Episode 15
About this episode
The episode explores the challenges and strategies of modern business leaders in navigating competing interests and integrating generative AI into their companies.
Watch all of the day’s interviews. The modern business leader walks a tightrope: between fighting for the success of their company and shareholder value; between communication and leadership ability, demands for innovation, media representation, political pressures and international dynamics and besting their competition. So, we asked: How do they manage these competing interests, and what does it mean to lead with purpose? How do current Fortune 500 leaders see their role today, and what defines their leadership? We also asked the big question of the moment: How are they approaching the integration of generative A.I. into their business models? And how are they building resiliency in their own companies? Panelists: Alex Chriss, C.E.O. of PayPal; Beth Ford, President and C.E.O. of Land O’Lakes Inc.; Bob Jordan, President and C.E.O. of Southwest Airlines; Ynon Kreiz, Chairman and C.E.O. of Mattel; Pete Nordstrom, Co-C.E.O. of Nordstrom, Inc.; Emma Walmsley, C.E.O. of GSK Moderator: David Brooks, Opinion Columnist at The New York Times Filmed live at the 2025 DealBook Summit Follow DealBook’s reporting at https://nytimes.com/dealbook
People in this episode
Host: David Brooks
Guests: Alex Chriss, Beth Ford, Bob Jordan, Ynon Kreiz, Pete Nordstrom, Emma Walmsley
Topics covered
- leadership
- business strategy
- generative AI
- Fortune 500
- company resilience
Keywords
- leadership
- business leaders
- generative AI
- Fortune 500
- company resilience
- innovation
- shareholder value
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: PayPal, Land O’Lakes Inc., Southwest Airlines, Mattel, Nordstrom, Inc., GSK, The New York Times
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