
Lessons of War: Courage & Creative Leadership Flourish in Ukraine
From Deep Transformation by Roger Walsh and John Dupuy
February 26, 2026 · 51 min · Episode 223
About this episode
The episode discusses the resilience and creative leadership emerging in Ukraine amidst the ongoing war.
Ep. 223 | Four solid years since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, integral thinkers Kateryna Yasko and Vytautas Bučiūnas relate what life in Ukraine is like—emotionally, physically, spiritually. Far from what you might expect of a conversation about the state of Ukraine after four years of war—far from being battered and downtrodden—this is a story of resilience, resourcefulness, courage, and accelerated human development. Kateryna likens Ukraine to a living laboratory of transformation—with everyone united in the fight to preserve democracy and their identity as a nation, “the social fabric is strong, the resilience is astonishing…heroes receive a lot of gratitude from the people they serve.” On a personal level, Kateryna and Vytas share how they have grown in ways they wouldn’t have expected: capacities have widened, appreciation of life has deepened, and experiences of profound joy arise in giving their all, together with their compatriots, for the future of the next generation. Leadership in Ukraine is in an evolutionary elevator, Vytautas, an integral leadership development consultant, tells us. Leaders no longer have the option to be reactive or habitual, and this…
People in this episode
Hosts: Roger Walsh, John Dupuy
Guests: Kateryna Yasko, Vytautas Bučiūnas
Topics covered
- war
- leadership
- resilience
- transformation
- democracy
- human rights
Keywords
- Ukraine
- war
- leadership
- resilience
- democracy
- human rights
- transformation
- courage
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Russia, democracy, human rights, freedom
Places: Ukraine
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