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Exploring God, Soul & Reality: A. H. Almaas' Mystical Theology
Jun 11, 2026
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May 28, 2026
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Bedazzled Mind, Boundless Heart: Living as the Love We Always Longed For
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| 6/11/26 | ![]() Exploring God, Soul & Reality: A. H. Almaas' Mystical Theology | Ep. 235 | In the 18th dialogue of the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series, Hameed Ali delves into the fascinating subject of how the physical world is related to the absolute. From a nondual perspective, reality includes the physical world, he explains; the world cannot be reduced to an illusion. Material reality is every bit as compelling as the spiritual perspective, he continues. How we perceive it depends on where we find our stance, what we are immersed in—in the formless or the world of form. Hameed recognizes and honors physical reality, while describing material objects as expressions, or glimmerings, of the ground of being—the physical and the ground of being inseparable, whether pure presence or pure emptiness.And how does the relationship between creator and creation relate to the individual? Hameed presents his mystical theology: a triadic reality formed by God, the individual, and the physical world, where each maintains its own truth. Because the absolute is inherently not self-aware, it needs an individual to become aware of itself, he explains. We are its “knowing instruments.” Hameed’s mystical theology, establishing the relationship between the human being, the world, and God, or true nature, is both elevating and grounding, enlightening and somehow comforting. The essential puzzle pieces of reality fitted together, creating unity. From atoms and quarks to what happens after death and how all dimensions can possibly exist in exquisite harmony when there is so much disharmony in the world, this conversation is far ranging, stimulating, and punctuated with laughter, as Hameed, Roger, and John continue to explore The Inner Journey Home. Recorded May 14, 2026.“When we experience the absolute, we see it as the truth of everything, the nature of everything—all are glimmerings of the absolute.”Topics & Time StampsIntroducing dialogue #18 in the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series, an exploration of the chapter titled “Reality” in Hameed’s magnum opus, The Inner Journey Home (00:49)Hameed explains how the Path of Love Series relates to the The Inner Journey Home/Wisdom Series (04:51)Seeing the physical world from the perspective of the absolute (06:10)Why do we experience the world as so very solid? (09:28)From the absolute perspective, material objects are glimmerings of the ground of being (11:49)From the scientific perspective, the physical world is “rock-level real” (14:45)The physical world should not be reduced to an illusion; it has properties that cannot be denied (18:13)In the physical world, death means no longer alive; spiritually, death is a transformation (21:50)Does the individual soul continue after death? (25:04)Why isn’t everyone awakened if we’re all part of the absolute? (26:40)Standing in the absolute, all dimensions are inseparable, existing in exquisite harmony, but this does not negate people’s experience of disharmony (30:38)The absolute is inherently not self-aware, that’s why it needs an individual to become aware of itself (32:56)The divine coma is the entry to the absolute (35:38)The relationship between the human being, the world, and God (38:59)Is there a personal God? (41:47)You can be an individual without being separate (47:33)God fulfillment & soul fulfillment are one and the same (50:36)The concept of service has many stages (52:57)Hameed’s mystical theology: a triadic reality, each with its own truth (57:06)The dimension of energy (01:04:26)Reality appears differently from different perspectives; this teaching is from the nondual perspective (01:06:10)Dzogchen & Hameed both give an inherent meaning to life; traditions espousing illusion do not (01:09:19)Individual creativity gives voice to the creativity of the universe (01:12:24)Resources & ReferencesA. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali), founder of The Ridhwan School, home of The Diamond ApproachA. H. Almaas, The Inner Journey Home: Soul’s Realization of the Unity of RealityAdvaita VedantaSri Nisargadatta Maharaj, I Am That Beginning of a famous Hadith Qudsi: “I was a hidden treasure and wanted to be known…”Sufi master Ibn Arabi, “God needs a soul just as much as a soul needs God.”A. H. Almaas, The Pearl Beyond Price: Integration of Personality into Being: An Object Relations ApproachThe Path of Love Series with A. H. Almaas, Deep Transformation podcast seriesMeister Eckhart, German Catholic priest, theologian, philosopher & mysticRamana Maharshi, Hindu sage and liberated beingLongchenpa, Dzogchen poet---The A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series generally follows the sequence of Hameed’s magnum opus, The Inner Journey Home (which John describes as psychoactive and spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually transformative), so listeners may want to get a copy of this book, to study and follow along on this exhilarating path of awakening.---Special Diamond Approach Course Discount for Deep Transformation ListenersIf you are interested in taking a course offered by Diamond Approach Online, Hameed’s team at the Ridhwan School have offered a special 20% discount for Deep Transformation listeners. You can access the Course Catalog here: https://online.diamondapproach.org/catalog/. And enter the code DTP20 to receive your discount when you sign up.---Hameed Ali (A. H. Almaas) was born in Kuwait in 1944. At the age of eighteen, he moved to the U.S. to study at the University of California in Berkeley. Hameed was working on his Ph.D. in physics when he reached a turning point in his life and destiny that led him to inquire into the psychological and spiritual aspects of human nature rather than the physical nature of the universe. He left the academic world to pursue an in-depth journey of inner discovery, applying his scientific precision and discipline to personal, experiential research. This included study with different teachers in different modalities, extensive reading, and continuous study of his own consciousness in an effort to understand the essential nature of human experience and reality in general.Hameed’s process of exploration led to the creation of the Ridhwan School and, with his colleague Karen Johnson, resulted in the founding and unfoldment of the Diamond Approach. He is the author of 20 books, including Nondual Love: Awakening to the Loving Nature of Reality, Love Unveiled: Discovering the Essence of the Awakened Heart, Keys to the Enneagram: How to Unlock the Highest Potential of Every Personality Type, The Unfolding... | — | ||||||
| 5/28/26 | ![]() When One Sex Loses, Everyone Loses: Warren Farrell on the Boy Crisis, Dad-Deprivation & Healing the Gender Divide✨ | boy crisisfatherlessness+4 | Warren Farrell | — | — | boy crisisfatherlessness+6 | — | 2h 02m 31s | |
| 5/14/26 | ![]() Bedazzled Mind, Boundless Heart: Living as the Love We Always Longed For✨ | lovenonduality+3 | A. H. Almaas | The Inner Beloved | — | lovenonduality+3 | — | 1h 13m 41s | |
| 4/30/26 | ![]() Zen for a World on Fire: How Zen Helps Us to Wake Up, Grow Up & Rise to the Challenges of Our Time✨ | Zencontemplative practice+5 | Diane Musho HamiltonGabriel Wilson | ZenWaking Up and Growing Up | — | Zencontemplative practice+5 | — | 1h 24m 08s | |
| 4/23/26 | ![]() At Our Essence, We Are Love: Becoming Intimate with Everything✨ | loveintimacy+4 | A. H. Almaas | — | — | loveintimacy+6 | — | 38m 41s | |
| 4/16/26 | ![]() Dissolving into Bliss: The Ecstasy of Ego Death✨ | ego deathpath of love+4 | A. H. Almaas | The Inner Beloved | — | ego deathpath of love+6 | — | 40m 42s | |
| 4/9/26 | ![]() The Practice of Equanimity: Cultivating a Heart Big Enough to Hold Everything✨ | equanimitypersonal relationships+5 | Margaret Cullen | Quiet StrengthThe Serenity Prayer | — | equanimityhumor+5 | — | 37m 04s | |
| 4/2/26 | ![]() The Power & Wisdom of Equanimity: Getting Beyond Reactivity to Inner Calm & Clarity✨ | equanimitynon-reactivity+4 | Margaret Cullen | Quiet Strength: Find Peace, Feel Alive, and Love Boundlessly Through the Power of Equanimity | — | equanimityinner calm+5 | — | 43m 46s | |
| 3/26/26 | ![]() The Awe & Ecstasy of Surrendering to the Inner Beloved✨ | inner belovedpath of love+4 | A. H. Almaas | — | — | inner belovedlove+6 | — | 34m 51s | |
| 3/19/26 | ![]() Emptying the Heart of All that Obscures the Inner Beloved✨ | spiritual journeypath of love+4 | A. H. Almaas | The Inner Beloved | — | spiritual journeyinner beloved+5 | — | 38m 53s | |
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| 3/12/26 | ![]() Christianity is About Love. Christian Nationalism is Not. Calling Out the Hypocrites with John Fugelsang✨ | ChristianityChristian nationalism+4 | John Fugelsang | ChristianityChristian nationalism+3 | U.S.Russia | fundamentalismChristian nationalism+5 | — | 40m 50s | |
| 3/5/26 | ![]() Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists & Frauds (You Seriously Believe Jesus Said What?) with John Fugelsang✨ | ChristianityFundamentalism+4 | John Fugelsang | Separation of Church and Hate: A Sane Person’s Guide to Taking Back the Bible from Fundamentalists, Fascists, and Flock-Fleecing Frauds | — | ChristianityBible+7 | — | 45m 12s | |
| 2/26/26 | ![]() Lessons of War: Courage & Creative Leadership Flourish in Ukraine✨ | warleadership+4 | Kateryna YaskoVytautas Bučiūnas | Russiademocracy+2 | Ukraine | Ukrainewar+6 | — | 51m 04s | |
| 2/19/26 | ![]() Passion, Ecstasy & Challenges on the Path of Love with A. H. Almaas✨ | spiritual loveinner beloved+4 | A. H. Almaas | — | — | spiritual loveDiamond Approach+5 | — | 38m 45s | |
| 2/12/26 | ![]() Entering the Path of Heart: Love and the Jealous Beloved | Ep. 221 (Part 1 of 2) | Deep Transformation is excited to release the first episode in our new Path of Love Series with A. H. Almaas, in honor and celebration of Hameed Ali’s latest book, The Inner Beloved. The series begins with Hameed sharing his motivation for writing all three of the books in his Love Trilogy (Love Unveiled, Nondual Love, The Inner Beloved), namely, when he realized his prior books had omitted to teach specifically about the role of love on the spiritual path. Love is the energy, the driving force toward union with our inner nature, Hameed explains, and it is love that dissolves the obstacles that remain towards the end of the path. It is the path of heart that gets you all the way.Hameed orients us with an overview of the Diamond Approach’s experiential path of love, gifting us with some tremendous teachings on love as a prelude to delving deeply into his newest book, The Inner Beloved. When asked, What is the inner beloved? he responds, The beloved is not just love. Love serves the beloved, love is the way to the beloved. The inner beloved is what our deepest heart longs for. The path of the heart is painful at times, he continues, because we feel separate from what we yearn to become one with. At the end of the dialogue, Hameed shares that with his path of love teachings, he wants us to know there is a way to address our longing, our yearning. There is a way for it to complete itself, he assures us. Recorded December 11, 2025.“The beloved is the deepest nondual truth you can experience.”Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1Introducing A. H. Almaas and his trilogy of books on love: Love Unveiled, Nondual Love, and The Inner Beloved (00:48)Hameed’s motivation to write about love came when he realized his prior books had omitted teaching about the role of love on the spiritual path (04:27)The first book in the trilogy, Love Unveiled, talks about 3 kinds of love important in human life and in spiritual practice (07:01)The second book, Nondual Love, talks about the boundless dimension of universal love (09:05)The third book, The Inner Beloved, is about the path of love—the movement toward our fundamental nature through the heart (10:59)Roger points out that Hameed’s teachings on love go far beyond other spiritual teachings (12:20)The beloved is not just love: love serves the beloved, love is the way to the beloved (13:35)We all have 3 centers of operation: head, heart & belly—each one is a spiritual brain of its own (16:24)Love is the most explicit motivator for the spiritual journey (18:08)The Diamond Approach is not about being liberated or free from suffering, it’s about loving to know the truth (20:40)The path of the heart is painful because we feel separate from what we yearn to become one with (24:13)Emptying the heart of all other loves (26:01)The inner beloved is the most jealous of beloveds (30:21)Was there a certain point of surrender for Hameed? (33:04)Love’s function is to move us towards the inner beloved (35:55)(For fans of the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series, the Wisdom Series, based on Hameed’s book The Inner Journey Home, will be continued later in the spring.)Resources & References – Part 1A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series on Deep Transformation, based on Hameed’s book The Inner Journey HomeA. H. Almaas, The Inner Beloved: The Heart's Journey to Divine UnityA. H. Almaas, Love Unveiled: Discovering the Essence of the Awakened HeartA. H. Almaas, Nondual Love: Awakening to the Loving Nature of RealityA. H. Almaas, The Point of Existence: Transformations of Narcissism in Self-RealizationA. H. Almaas, The Pearl Beyond Price: Integration of Personality into Being: An Object Relations ApproachA. H. Almaas, The Void: Inner Spaciousness and Ego StructureRam Dass, renowned spiritual teacher, psychologist, and authorBhakti, a concept common in Indian religions, may refer to loving devotion for a personal God, a formless ultimate reality, or an enlightened beingSri Ramana Maharshi, Who Am I?Kabir, Indian mystic and poet---Hameed Ali (A. H. Almaas) was born in Kuwait in 1944. At the age of eighteen, he moved to the U.S. to study at the University of California in Berkeley. Hameed was working on his Ph.D. in physics when he reached a turning point in his life and destiny that led him to inquire into the psychological and spiritual aspects of human nature rather than the physical nature of the universe. He left the academic world to pursue an in-depth journey of inner discovery, applying his scientific precision and discipline to personal, experiential research. This included study with different teachers in different modalities, extensive reading, and continuous study of his own consciousness in an effort to understand the essential nature of human experience and reality in general.Hameed’s process of exploration led to the creation of the Ridhwan School and, with his colleague Karen Johnson, resulted in the founding and unfoldment of the Diamond Approach. He is the author of 20 books, including Nondual Love: Awakening to the Loving Nature of Reality, Love Unveiled: Discovering the Essence of the Awakened Heart, Keys to the Enneagram: How to Unlock the Highest Potential of Every Personality Type, The Unfolding Now: Realizing Your True Nature through the Practice of Presence, and more.---Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos and Show Notes by <a | — | ||||||
| 2/5/26 | ![]() Can Our Democracy Be Healed? Taking Up the Fight | Ep. 220 (Part 2 of 2) | In part 2 of Sliding Towards Authoritarianism, Constitutional Law expert and Ethics professor Mark Fischler unpacks the significance of the extreme lack of civic understanding in the United States and, well informed about students’ cognitive abilities and mental health status nationwide, adds the precipitous drop in achievement scores and through-the-roof diagnoses of ADHD, autism, anxiety, and depression to the mix, concluding, “You begin to see why an authoritarian world requiring only simple actions and answers would be more attractive than a democratic world that requires complexity, conversation, and the ability to see the intrinsic worth of the person across from you… to collectively decide to honor democratic processes and the winner who was voted in.”This is the challenge, Mark says: “Since everybody has a partial piece of the truth, we need to ask ourselves, am I curious enough to understand another’s partial piece of truth in order to enrich myself and help me understand that we are all in this together?” “We need to take up the fight for greater awareness that recognizes the good, the true, the beautiful, and the oneness of what is,” he continues. Despite all that Mark has shared with us regarding the current Administration’s dehumanizing, authoritarian tactics and other significant factors contributing to the deterioration of our democracy, when asked what gives him hope, Mark answers, “A lot of things!” The discussion ends in a hopeful place—grim realities balanced with inspiring trends, including the growing recognition around the world that we are all in this together in what is essentially one global village. Recorded December 4, 2025.“To understand is to forgive.” – Dr. Michael FischlerTopics & Time Stamps – Part 2What the problem of pervasive civic ignorance signifies for our democracy (01:02)Our susceptibility to authoritarian leaders is not surprising considering our ignorance of civil responsibility (04:53)Future shock: people under stress regress psychologically, making it even easier for an authoritarian to take over (06:57)There is more than one reason for our pervasive civic ignorance (09:08)Using A.I. to fact-check what we see and hear (10:37)Education: cognitive understanding in young people has plunged below lowest-level functioning thresholds (16:35)Among students, autism, ADHD, anxiety & depression diagnoses are through the roof (18:03)Because of people’s lack of achievement & lack of civic understanding, it makes sense that people are willing to let democracy go (19:40)Cultivating a quest for truth is part of the solution (22:48)A call to contemplative warriors to take up the fight for greater awareness that recognizes the good, the true, the beautiful—and the oneness of what is (25:35)Everybody has a partial piece of the truth (28:36)To understand is to forgive (32:30)The Supreme Court is asking, should we even take race into account? (35:22)What gives Mark hope? A lot of things! (39:51)Resources & References – Part 2Professor Mark Fischler, Plymouth State UniversityThe Integral Justice Warrior series, co-hosted by Mark Fischler and Corey deVos (Integral Life website)Justice David Souter’s speech at UNH’s Franklin Pierce School of Law: Constitutionally Speaking: How Does The Constitution Keep Up With The TimesAlvin Toffler, Future ShockJia Lynn Yang, America’s Children Are Unwell (NY Times, Nov 2025)Ken Wilber, A Post-Truth World: Politics, Polarization, and a Vision for Transcending the ChaosLao Tzu, Tao Te Ching, chapter 27: “…what is a good man but a bad man’s teacher…”Ken Wilber’s prime directive: protect and promote the well-being of the whole developmental spiral of consciousness, rather than privileging just one level or worldview, A Theory of EverythingLouisiana v. CalaisGreg Thomas on the Deep Transformation podcast: Using the Dance of Our Differences to Wise Up, Harmonize, and Actualize---Mark Fischler is a professor of Ethics, Constitutional Law, and Criminal Procedure at Plymouth State University. Prior to joining the Plymouth State faculty, he practiced law, representing poor criminal defendants for the New Hampshire Public Defender’s Office. Mark left the law after being guided by the Universe to focus on his Spiritual Awareness for almost two years. Upon his return, he was called to become a teacher and accepted a job at Plymouth State in 2003.Since then, Mark has worked extensively with alternative theoretical models in law, constitutional law, and higher education, and has published on integral applications to teaching, being a lawyer, and legal theory. In his time at the university, he’s been a chair, Dean, and Interim VP. His focus in the classroom is ethics and criminal procedure and constitutional law. He is well respected for a teaching philosophy that emphasizes recognizing the humanity and dignity of each student. Professor Fischler was awarded the outstanding teaching award at his university in 2014. He currently offers a weekly Spiritual Inquiry class for college students and also for faculty and staff.---Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos and Show Notes by Heidi Mitchell | — | ||||||
| 1/29/26 | ![]() Sliding Towards Authoritarianism: Our Failing Democracy & What We Can Do About It | Ep. 219 (Part 1 of 2) | Constitutional Law expert and Ethics professor Mark Fischler joins Deep Transformation again, to help us make sense of the slide towards authoritarianism happening in the United States today. Mark’s vast knowledge of the law, the Constitution, and the Supreme Court, his deep comprehension of ethics and morality, his Integral understanding, and his profound contemplative awareness all make for an extraordinary exploration of what is going on in this country at levels we don’t often consider. Beginning with examples of events in 2025 that are representative of various facets of authoritarianism, Mark goes on to discuss how the very crassness of the current Administration is undermining democracy: “We need to demand civil, fact-based discussion from our leaders, but we’re all accepting it’s okay to act like toddlers and dehumanize each other.”Mark cites some stunning figures illustrating the widespread ignorance of democratic processes and institutions among the populace in this country, and describes why a lack of civic understanding makes us susceptible to authoritarians coming in and taking over. He also acknowledges that progressives are at fault for marginalizing conservatives, and calls on us to recognize the honor and dignity of all people, regardless of their politics—this is part of the solution, he explains. Mark’s passionate caring, wanting the best for all people and all beings, is a current that flows throughout, grounding the discussion in a beautiful way, while also making for a heartbreaking contrast relative to the chilling events happening in the political arena now. Recorded December 4, 2025.“An ignorant people can never remain a free people.” – Thomas JeffersonTopics & Time Stamps – Part 1Introducing a frequent guest on Deep Transformation: Ethics, Law & Criminal Justice professor Mark Fischler, to help us make sense of our deteriorating democracy (00:43)The trajectory of Trump’s presidency: the devolution of democracy towards authoritarian government (01:51)John presents defining characteristics of fascism according to A. I. (04:01)How does Mark define authoritarianism? (07:24)Mark offers examples of 12 hallmarks of authoritarian government that happened in 2025, beginning with the stifling of dissent and speech (08:12)Statistics on how U.S. citizens feel our democracy is performing (16:51)What surprises Mark the most? The crassness & crudeness of the Trump Administration (18:15) The deterioration in the greater culture at large: who and what is responsible? (21:19)Deflecting our attention using whataboutism breeds cynicism & corrodes our democracy (24:45)We need to demand civil, fact-based discussion from our leaders, but we’re all accepting it’s okay to act like toddlers and dehumanize each other (30:00)Recognizing the humanity & inner dignity of everyone is part of the solution (31:16)Progressives on their side are at fault for marginalizing conservatives (33:38)The red meme mentality (Spiral Dynamics) that is taking place (39:24)Why pervasive civic ignorance in the U.S. is a very significant problem (41:57)Resources & References – Part 1Professor Mark Fischler, Plymouth State UniversityThe Integral Justice Warrior series, co-hosted by Mark Fischler and Corey deVos (Integral Life website)NY Times Editorial Board, Are We Losing Our Democracy? (Oct 2025)Judge Michael Luttig, President for Life (The Atlantic, Dec 2025)Tom Nichols, A Confederacy of Toddlers (The Atlantic, Nov 2025)Supreme Court Justice David SouterKen Wilber’s prime directive: protect and promote the well-being of the whole developmental spiral of consciousness, rather than privileging just one level or worldview, A Theory of EverythingMona Charon, Whataboutism Is Rotting Our Brains, Our Consciences, and Our Politics (The Bulwark, June 2025)David Brooks, What if We’re the Bad Guys Here? (NY Times Opinion, Aug 2023)Don Beck & Christopher Cowan, Spiral Dynamics, Mastering Values, Leadership and ChangeKen Wilber, BoomeritisJustice David Souter’s speech at UNH’s Franklin Pierce School of Law: Constitutionally Speaking: How Does The Constitution Keep Up With The Times---Mark Fischler is a professor of Ethics, Constitutional Law, and Criminal Procedure at Plymouth State University. Prior to joining the Plymouth State faculty, he practiced law, representing poor criminal defendants for the New Hampshire Public Defender’s Office. Mark left the law after being guided by the Universe to focus on his Spiritual Awareness for almost two years. Upon his return, he was called to become a teacher and accepted a job at Plymouth State in 2003. Since then, Mark has worked extensively with alternative theoretical models in law, constitutional law, and higher education, and has published on integral applications to teaching, being a lawyer, and legal theory. In his time at the university, he’s been a chair, Dean, and Interim VP. His focus in the classroom is ethics and criminal procedure and constitutional law. He is well respected for a teaching... | — | ||||||
| 1/22/26 | ![]() Welcoming the Absolute: What Happens When Reality Lives Through You | Ep. 218 (Part 2 of 2) | In Part 2 of the 17th dialogue in the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series, Hameed Ali explores the great freedom we experience when we allow being itself to unfold through us—when we let reality take its course without our egoic selves getting in the way. When we are out of the way, Hameed explains, all the virtues come through us: responsibility, ethics, morality, compassion, caring, sensitivity, and more. These ideals are not human-made, he says, they are expressions of our true nature. In fact, Hameed adds, this is what a true human is; expressing the absolute is the fulfillment of life. Just knowing the absolute does not eliminate all obstacles, Hameed continues. Even as we go very deep, there are “ego islands” that pose ongoing difficulties. But the practice is to be with our experience and let it inform us—allow our life experiences to become the arena for the expression of spirit. All we need to do is abide in the knowing that the absolute is expressing itself through us, Hameed says. And laughs telling a story about the “do nothing” instructions of lamas and Zen teachers, as they attempt to show their students that there is nothing to be done but get out of the way. All manifestation, our lives, even our problems and challenges and getting lost in the illusion is all a play of the absolute, Roger reflects. Another very rich, deeply nourishing conversation with A. H. Almaas. Recorded November 13, 2025.“If we become mature enough to cease and desist, to let reality take its course… when we’re out of the way, true nature will come through—that’s what a true human is.”Topics & Time Stamps – Part 2Is there such a thing as a false descent? (00:33)Most of the time, a realization of the absolute is incomplete—there are still some issues that haven’t been worked out (01:43)Hameed’s teachings expanded as his experience expanded (04:22)Even a spiritual teacher with an incomplete realization can be helpful; what causes trouble is when teachers don’t acknowledge their knowing is limited (07:26)All we need to do is abide in the knowing that the absolute is expressing itself through us (12:25)The practice is to be with our experience; the ego gets in the way by trying to take over (15:00)The great freedom of allowing reality to take its course: the do nothing meditation (18:02)Our life is fulfilled when we’re acting at the behest of the absolute (23:10)Even as we know the absolute, there is always more to be free from (24:17)The central issue of descent is letting go of all identification—of our ego, even of the absolute (28:41)Reality is such an interesting thing—even ignorance is an interesting thing (31:57)True nature is indestructible, incorruptible—at bottom it is perfect (34:26)Don’t get discouraged reading this chapter, if you just learn a few things, that’s all that matters (37:02)Resources & References – Part 2A. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali), founder of The Ridhwan School, home of The Diamond ApproachA. H. Almaas, The Inner Journey Home: Soul’s Realization of the Unity of RealityChogyal Namkhai Norbu & Adriano Clemente, The Supreme Source: The Fundamental Tantra of Dzogchen Semde, initial Dzogchen book that says any spiritual practice will only delay enlightenment Seng-t’san, the Third Chinese Patriarch, The Hsin Hsin Ming, Verses on the Faith-MindA. H. Almaas, Runaway Realization: Living a Life of Ceaseless DiscoveryDzogchenLectio DivinaThe A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series will generally follow the sequence of Hameed’s magnum opus, The Inner Journey Home (which John describes as psychoactive and spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually transformative), so listeners may want to get a copy of this book, to study and follow along on this exhilarating path of awakening.---Hameed Ali (A. H. Almaas) was born in Kuwait in 1944. At the age of eighteen, he moved to the U.S. to study at the University of California in Berkeley. Hameed was working on his Ph.D. in physics when he reached a turning point in his life and destiny that led him to inquire into the psychological and spiritual aspects of human nature rather than the physical nature of the universe. He left the academic world to pursue an in-depth journey of inner discovery, applying his scientific precision and discipline to personal, experiential research. This included study with different teachers in different modalities, extensive reading, and continuous study of his own consciousness in an effort to understand the essential nature of human experience and reality in general.Hameed’s process of exploration led to the creation of the Ridhwan School and, with his colleague Karen Johnson, resulted in the founding and unfoldment of the Diamond Approach. He is the author of 20 books, including Nondual Love: Awakening to the Loving Nature of Reality, Love Unveiled: Discovering the Essence of the Awakened Heart, Keys to the Enneagram: How to Unlock the Highest Potential of Every Personality Type, The Unfolding Now: Realizing Your True Nature through the Practice of Presence, and more. ---Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos and Show Notes by Heidi Mitchell | — | ||||||
| 1/15/26 | ![]() Awakening is Not the End of the Story: Living as the Radiance of the Absolute | Ep. 217 (Part 1 of 2) | In the 17th dialogue of the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series, Hameed Ali explores the classic spiritual theme: the journey of descent. What happens after we awaken, having had a realization of the deepest kind? The path of descent, where we retain the awareness of what came with our experience of the absolute, and bring it into our life, expressing it with every aspect of our being. Many teachings talk about the ascent (the journey of awakening) and the descent, Hameed explains, but when they talk about the descent, they interpret it as an individual coming down the mountain with their great realization. Hameed thought this was how it happened too, he laughs. But then it became clear to him following his own descent that it is not an enlightened individual who descends back into the world—it’s the absolute. In Christian terms, it’s the father who comes, appearing as the son.What was it like for Hameed as he descended, living in the absolute dimension at the same time as living in the everyday world? co-host John Dupuy asks. Something transcendent lives through the body with the individual as the organ of perception, Hameed responds. “The entire universe becomes subtle shimmerings…like the waves in quantum theory; the blackness so extreme that it shines—and that sheen is the world.” Different from the classic Eastern spiritual path, where what is significant is living the transcendent rather than living regular life, in the Diamond Approach (Hameed’s path), actualization is the goal, coming back to the everyday world and living life as an expression of the Absolute. Recorded November 13, 2025.“It is inherent to true nature for it to be lived in the world.”Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1Introducing the 17th dialogue in the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series, focusing on the journey of descent: actualizing the realization of the absolute (00:39)The path begins with the journey of ascent, then comes realization, then the path of descent: actualization, living your realization (04:46)Being in the world and not of it is an important principle of the Diamond Approach (06:44)What was it like for Hameed as he descended, living in the absolute dimension and the everyday world simultaneously? (08:17)It’s not the individual who descends but the Absolute (14:45)Differentiating from the Eastern spiritual path, where what’s important is living the transcendent rather than living life (19:33)Are there obstacles to the descent? (20:44)In descent, the entire universe becomes subtle shimmerings… like the waves in quantum theory (25:04)Something transcendent lives through the body; the individual is the organ of perception (27:06)Hameed was already a spiritual teacher, sharing about the journey of ascent, before he experienced the journey of descent (29:49)Can a person experience a series of cycles of ascent and descent? (31:06)In Christian language, the descent is the father coming into this world, appearing as the son (33:14) Authenticity: the practice is to be your experience, abide in it, and let it reveal its truth (34:29)The quintessence is the full integration of all the dimensions (36:13)The absence of substance is what gives the Absolute its power (37:46)Resources & References – Part 1A. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali), founder of The Ridhwan School, home of The Diamond ApproachA. H. Almaas, The Inner Journey Home: Soul’s Realization of the Unity of RealityRamana Maharshi, Hindu sage and liberated beingCynthia Bourgeault, modern-day mystic, author, retreat leaderSri Nisargadatta MaharajArnold Toynbee’s cycle of withdrawal and return, A Study of HistoryDzogchenMahamudraDharmakāyaThe A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series will generally follow the sequence of Hameed’s magnum opus, The Inner Journey Home (which John describes as psychoactive and spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually transformative), so listeners may want to get a copy of this book, to study and follow along on this exhilarating path of awakening.---Hameed Ali (A. H. Almaas) was born in Kuwait in 1944. At the age of eighteen, he moved to the U.S. to study at the University of California in Berkeley. Hameed was working on his Ph.D. in physics when he reached a turning point in his life and destiny that led him to inquire into the psychological and spiritual aspects of human nature rather than the physical nature of the universe. He left the academic world to pursue an in-depth journey of inner discovery, applying his scientific precision and discipline to personal, experiential research. This included study with different teachers in different modalities, extensive reading, and continuous study of his own consciousness in an effort to understand the essential nature of human experience and reality in general.Hameed’s process of exploration led to the creation of the Ridhwan School and, with his colleague Karen Johnson, resulted in the founding and unfoldment of the Diamond Approach. He is the author of 20 books, including Nondual Love: Awakening to the Loving Nature of Reality, Love Unveiled: Discovering the Essence of the Awakened Heart, Keys to the Enneagram: How to Unlock the Highest Potential of Every Personality Type, The Unfolding Now: Realizing Your True Nature through the Practice of Presence, and more.---Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos and Show Notes by Heidi Mitchell | — | ||||||
| 1/8/26 | ![]() Embodying Compassion: The Practice of Loving Everyone with Jack Kornfield | Ep. 216 (Part 2 of 2) | In Part 2 of Deep Transformation’s first episode in the What is Real Greatness Series, longtime spiritual teacher Jack Kornfield declares that in his experience real greatness is a greatness of heart. In Buddhism, greatness of heart is embodied in the ideal of the bodhisattva—one whose life is dedicated to the well-being of all. Embodying compassion is not a grim proposition, Jack explains, but a joy! The whole point of it being human happiness and inner freedom. Because of his deep understanding of compassion, Jack was invited to the Oslo Freedom Forum to counsel global activists on how to prevent burnout, and when talking to them about their outrage, he told them, “You do this because you care—that is not a loss of power, it’s actually the deep power. Tune into the care.” Greatness of heart is the great power.Jack relates that the experience of awakening can be felt in different ways: it might feel like everything is love, perfection, emptiness, or freedom. For me, the channel is love and my practice is to love everyone, he explains. We have to love both the lion and the gazelle, he continues, and shares a poignant story of how very loving Ram Dass became towards the end of his life, loving everything, even his pain. When the conversation turns towards the potential demise of humanity, Jack wonders, will we be able to do something beneficial with our consciousness now that we’re aware that we are all connected? What is the spirit you want to lead with? he asks. What is the dance you want to do? A thoroughly thought provoking, nourishing, inspiring conversation. Recorded October 2, 2025.“You think you’re separate – you think you exist. But you’re not who you think you are. You are consciousness in drag.”Topics & Time Stamps – Part 2You think you’re separate, but you’re not who you think you are (00:27)The bodhisattva vow as aspiration, never off-duty (04:23)What real greatness is changes with each turning of Buddhism (08:26)The experience of awakening can be felt in different ways: love, perfection, emptiness, or freedom (12:19)Jack’s channel & inspiration is love; and a story of how very loving Ram Dass became (19:00)Teaching activists to remember to hold themselves in their own circle of compassion at the Oslo Freedom Forum (23:52)Jack’s upcoming workshop: Inner Technology for Outer Technologists (29:18)How do you embody the bodhisattva? Spiritual practice isn’t a grim duty—it’s actually joyful (31:08)As Andre Gidé said, joy is our moral obligation (32:49) What stands out to Jack about all the amazing people he’s encountered? (34:09)When there’s a greatness of heart…that is the great power (35:04)The hospice now is for humanity, not for Earth, which knows how to take care of itself (37:42)What is the spirit you want to lead with? What is the dance you want to do? (40:18)The end questions: Did I love well? Did I live fully? Did I learn to let go? (41:13)Your purpose here is to deliver your cargo, your gifts (41:47)Resources & References – Part 2Jack Kornfield, founding teacher of Spirit Rock Meditation Center and the Insight Meditation Society, author of A Path with Heart and many moreStanislav Grof, LSD: Doorway to the NuminousRam Dass & Rameshwar Das, Be Love Now: The Path of the HeartThe Oslo Freedom Forum, bringing together the world’s most engaging human rights advocates, journalists, artists, tech entrepreneurs & world leaders to brainstorm ways to unleash human potential around the globeThe Dalai Lama & Desmond Tutu, The Book of Joy: Lasting Happiness in a Changing WorldNobel prize winner André GideMalidoma Patrice Somé, shaman, writer & workshop leader, primarily in the field of spiritualityZen Master Seungsahn, The Compass of Zen---Jack Kornfield trained as a Buddhist monk in Thailand, India, and Burma. He holds a Ph.D. in clinical psychology and is a founding teacher of the Insight Meditation Society in Massachusetts and Spirit Rock Meditation Center in California. He is one of the key teachers to introduce mindfulness practice to the West, has taught internationally since 1974, and is the author of 17 books which have sold 2 million copies.---Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos and Show Notes by Heidi Mitchell | — | ||||||
| 1/1/26 | ![]() Setting the Compass of Your Heart: What Really Matters with Jack Kornfield | Ep. 215 (Part 1 of 2) | The first of Deep Transformation’s What is Real Greatness Series, this conversation with world-renowned meditation teacher Jack Kornfield is filled with beautiful teachings touching into the sacred at the heart of our lives and the point of our whole spiritual journey: to remember and embody our innate capacity to awaken and experience the reality of our own innate dignity and nobility. Respecting ourselves at the deepest level is what transforms us and transforms society too, Jack explains. “Do you hold yourself with nobility and respect?” he asks. “Can you remember your own beauty and dignity? Can you see it in others?”The topic of greatness—real greatness—is woven throughout the dialogue, as Jack recounts the seed events of his own spiritual journey and ruminates on Roger’s question, what is the sacred question at the center of your life? This is a question Jack often asks his own students, and we are inspired to ponder it for ourselves, along with, if you were to write your own bodhisattva vow, what would it be? Jack is a master at inspiring us to live our ideals, to broaden the possibilities of our lives, and to remember the miracle of our existence. A warmly personal, deeply profound discussion. Recorded October 2, 2025.“The beautiful thing about the bodhisattva ideal is that it becomes your intention… it becomes the setting of the compass of your heart.”Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1Introducing the first of Deep Transformation’s What is Real Greatness? series (00:38)Introducing renowned meditation teacher, prolific author, and clinical psychologist Jack Kornfield (03:09)In discussing real greatness, Jack advises not to throw out money & power as being unworthy (04:47)The story of Emperor Ashoka, who shifted from seeking outer greatness to seeking inner greatness: peace of mind and heart (07:49)How the Buddha turned the Hindu caste system on its head, honoring young monks for their innate nobility (13:17)Can you remember your own beauty & dignity? Can you see it in others? (16:19)Each of us has a sacred question at the center of our lives, what’s been Jack’s? (17:30)Jack’s first draw to Buddhism: suffering and the relief from suffering (21:08)The seeds of our sacred journeys: the path doesn’t go from here to there but from there to here (24:15)It’s completely weird that we exist! (25:40)King Ashoka & other historical figures, good candidates for the What is Real Greatness Series (27:13)Do we ask ourselves, “How do I live?” (28:28)The beautiful thing about the bodhisattva ideal is that it becomes the setting of the compass of your heart (31:32)The prayer with which the Dalai Lama begins his day (36:37)Ideals illuminate the possibilities of how we might live (38:39)If you were to write your own bodhisattva vow… what would it be? (40:47)Sometimes it’s suffering and sometimes it’s an awakening experience that draws us to spirituality (44:28)Jane Goodall, interspecies bodhisattva, and the story of Joanna Macy’s wake (47:37)Resources & References – Part 1Jack Kornfield, founding teacher of Spirit Rock Meditation Center and the Insight Meditation Society Mind & Life Institute, bringing science & contemplative wisdom together to better understand the mind and create positive change in the worldJack Kornfield, A Path with Heart: A Guide Through the Perils and Promises of Spiritual LifeJack Kornfield, The Wise Heart: A Guide to the Universal Teachings of Buddhist PsychologyJack Kornfield, No Time Like the Present: Finding Freedom, Love, and Joy Right Where You AreEmperor Ashoka the Great is credited with an important role in spreading Buddhism across ancient AsiaDr. Wing-tsit Chan, Chinese scholar and professorT. S. Eliot, “…the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time, ” from Eliot’s 1942 poem “Little Gidding”Meditations of Marcus AureliusShantideva, 8th-century CE Indian philosopher, Buddhist monk, poet & scholarDiane Ackerman’s poem “School Prayer,” “In the name of daybreak… I offer myself humbly as a guardian of nature…”The Sufi tradition of SohbetTrudy Goodman, founding teacher of InsightLA and co-founder of the Institute for Meditation and PsychotherapyRemembering Jane GoodallJoanna Macy, beloved environmental activist, author & scholar of Buddhism, general systems theory, and deep... | — | ||||||
| 12/25/25 | ![]() Finding Our True Home in the Absolute: Experiencing Intimacy with Everything, with A. H. Almaas | Ep. 214 (Part 2 of 2) | Part 2 of the 16th dialogue of the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series takes us on a sweet journey farther into our exploration of the nature of the absolute. Hameed Ali discusses the paradox of the absolute, being both source and cessation of all things, the nonduality of emptiness and beingness, these being two sides of the same coin, and explains why many nondual teachings do not touch upon the absolute. He makes sense of the difficult-to-fathom concept of pure emptiness, explaining that the absolute’s nature is absence—in contrast with presence—and relates that Mystery is the essence of the absolute, the fundamental essence of the nature of reality. “We are never going to know where it’s at, what’s happening, what life is about,” he laughs. Our knowledge is but “small islands in the vast ocean of mystery we live in;” mystery cannot be eliminated.In the absolute, the soul finds its final resting place, Hameed tells us. The absolute is our true home—the essence of the meaning of home. All humans are searching for their true home, Hameed says, and they search in many places. But here the search is over. Reflections of the absolute bring us closer to love, like when we are in love, Hameed continues. Being in love with an outer beloved brings us closer to the inner beloved and we see deeper. “The absolute is total intimacy, Hameed finishes. “In the absolute we are intimate with everything.” How do we express this in the world, in our ordinary lives? “It becomes very simple,” Hameed says. “The absolute is the essence of simplicity—so simple, even though there is a profundity…” Recorded October 9, 2025.“You don’t have to experience the absolute to know nonduality.” Topics & Time Stamps – Part 2Emptiness is nondual with consciousness, two sides of the same thing (01:03)Many nondual teachings don’t talk about the absolute (02:50)You don’t have to experience the absolute to know nonduality (03:32)There’s no sense of individual self, but some teachings take the absolute as the ultimate Self (04:52)Making sense of pure emptiness: the absolute’s nature is absence—in contrast with presence (09:47) The absolute is the essence of mystery (12:59)Experiencing all phenomena as projections of the absolute (13:57)The absolute reveals that true nature itself is unmanifest (17:58)Mystery is the nature of the absolute; the absolute IS mystery (19:08)The absolute is the extreme limit of purity; the heart empty of everything except the love of God (23:13)We live in an ocean of mystery; what we know are little islands (25:07)The search ends in the absolute; the soul is home (27:32)Reflections of the absolute bring us closer to love, like when we are in love (32:28)The absolute can pour itself into a manifest being expressing itself in the world: beyond realization to actualization (33:46)The absolute is the essence of simplicity, even though there is a profundity… (35:23)The absolute is total intimacy; we are intimate with everything (38:28)Resources & References – Part 2A. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali), founder of The Ridhwan School, home of The Diamond ApproachA. H. Almaas, The Inner Journey Home: Soul’s Realization of the Unity of RealityStanislav Grof writes about the plenum void in Beyond the Brain: Birth, Death, and Transcendence in PsychotherapySri Nisargadatta Maharaj, I Am ThatKashmir ShaivismLongchenpa: A Guide For Readers (Shambhala)Samaneri Jayasāra’s YouTube readings: The Wisdom of the MastersSamaneri Jayasāra on the Deep Transformation podcast: Creating Priceless Gifts of WisdomHuston Smith’s autobiography, Tales of Wonder: Adventures Chasing the DivineThe Ten Ox Herding Pictures from the Zen traditionIsaac Newton, “… to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea-shore…”The A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series will generally follow the sequence of Hameed’s magnum opus, The Inner Journey Home (which John describes as psychoactive and spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually transformative), so listeners may want to get a copy of this book, to study and follow along on this exhilarating path of awakening.---Hameed Ali (A. H. Almaas) was born in Kuwait in 1944. At the age of eighteen, he moved to the U.S. to study at the University of California in Berkeley. Hameed was working on his Ph.D. in physics when he reached a turning point in his life and destiny that led him to inquire into the psychological and spiritual aspects of human nature rather than the physical nature of the universe. He left the academic world to pursue an in-depth journey of inner discovery, applying his scientific precision and discipline to personal, experiential research. This included study with different teachers in different modalities, extensive reading, and continuous study of his own consciousness in an effort to understand the essential nature of human experience and reality in general.Hameed’s process of exploration led to the creation of the Ridhwan School and, with his colleague Karen Johnson, resulted in the founding and unfoldment of the Diamond Approach. He is the author of 20 books,... | — | ||||||
| 12/18/25 | ![]() Into the Absolute: At One with the Radiant Source of All, with A. H. Almaas (Part 1) | Ep. 213 (Part 1 of 2) | The 16th dialogue of the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series is about the absolute, the source dimension of all manifestation, deeper than any other dimension, the vastness beyond vastness. In Part 1, Hameed gives a wonderful description of the majesty and the blackness of the absolute, and tells the story of when he first experienced being one with the absolute himself. When Roger Walsh asks him, what are the doorways to the absolute, Hameed talks about mystical poverty and also the way of the heart. “When the true beloved shines through the heart, it’s an amazing ecstasy… a mindblowing kind of beauty,” he says. He discusses the fear people often feel as they approach cessation of all perception, and the need for the basic trust we were born with (which often gets clobbered as we grow up) to proceed. What changes after an experience of the absolute? John Dupuy asks. If one abides in this realization, it cleanses the soul of all impurities, and our action embodies the virtues, Hameed answers.In Part 2, which will be released December 25th, Hameed delves into the paradox of the absolute (the absolute is the elimination, the annihilation, the cessation of all things—and the source of all things), the nonduality of emptiness and awareness, and explains that mystery is the essence of the absolute: the absolute IS mystery, he says. There is laughter all around when Hameed says you can never completely “get” it, because there’s nothing there to get! Your mind disappears as you’re trying to get it. Towards the end, the conversation relaxes so deeply into the subject of the absolute, you can just about feel its presence. We become intimate with everything in the absolute, Hameed says. It is the soul’s final resting place, our true home, where the search ends. Recorded October 9, 2025.“The absolute itself is majesty, and the universe that emerges is beauty.”Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1Introducing dialogue #16 in the A.H. Almaas Wisdom Series, focusing on the source dimension, the apex of Hameed’s book The Inner Journey Home (00:41)“By simply witnessing the process of manifestation… the soul experiences itself as a vast silent witness… discovering a dimension deeper than any other, the absolute” (02:18)Being the absolute, one experiences an emptiness so empty there is no sensation (05:29)Cessation of perception, as the Buddha called it, was exactly Hameed’s experience (09:57)Neglected teachings of Nisargadatta: awareness that is not aware of itself can be experienced as “rock-like” (11:26)The story of Hameed’s first experience of the absolute (15:19)Is the absolute the destination? What is cessation? Is it the same as the absolute? (16:47)What changes after an experience of the absolute? (21:00) The absolute is majesty, the universe that emerges is beauty (23:18)The flowering of virtues follows true realization (24:24)The spiritual path has two sides: knowing who you are and living it (26:03)Moving towards cessation, people feel terror (26:53)Trust is essential; the more we are loved as an infant, the more we trust (28:25)What are the doorways into the realization of the absolute? (32:02)Mystical poverty is one doorway; the recognition that the soul has nothing of its own—it all comes from the Source (35:29)There is also the way of the heart, finding the true beloved within (38:03)Resources & References – Part 1A. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali), founder of The Ridhwan School, home of The Diamond ApproachA. H. Almaas, The Inner Journey Home: Soul’s Realization of the Unity of RealityA. H. Almaas, The Inner Beloved: The Heart’s Journey to Divine UnityRamana Maharshi, Hindu sage and liberated beingDzogchen’s dharmakāyaThe black light in Sufism (see Henry Corbin’s The Man of Light in Iranian Sufism and others)Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj, I Am That, “I am rock-like; awareness that is not aware of itself”Advaita VedantaSt. John of the Cross talks about black light in The Dark Night of the SoulErik Erikson, Childhood and Society : The Landmark Work on the Social Significance of ChildhoodIbn Arabi, Sufi mystic, poet, philosopher, “… look for me in the heart of my lovers”The A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series will generally follow the sequence of Hameed’s magnum opus, The Inner Journey Home (which John describes as psychoactive and spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually transformative), so listeners may want to get a copy of this book, to study and follow along on this exhilarating path of awakening.---Hameed Ali (A. H. Almaas) was born in Kuwait in 1944. At the age of eighteen, he moved to the U.S. to study at the University of California in Berkeley. Hameed was working on his Ph.D. in physics when he reached a turning point in his life and destiny that led him to inquire into the psychological and spiritual aspects of human nature rather than the physical nature of the universe. He left the academic world to pursue an in-depth journey of inner discovery, applying his scientific precision and discipline to personal, experiential research. This included study with different teachers in different modalities, extensive reading, and continuous study of his own consciousness in an effort to understand the essential nature of human experience and reality in general.Hameed’s process of exploration led to the creation of the Ridhwan School and, with his colleague Karen Johnson, resulted in the founding and unfoldment of the Diamond Approach. He is the author of 20 books, including Nondual Love: Awakening to the Loving Nature of Reality, Love Unveiled: Discovering the Essence of the Awakened Heart, Keys to the Enneagram: How to Unlock the Highest Potential of Every Personality Type, The Unfolding Now: Realizing Your True Nature through the Practice of Presence, and more. ---Podcast produced by... | — | ||||||
| 12/11/25 | ![]() Exposing Injustice & Suffering in Palestine & Around the World with Filmmakers Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo | Ep. 212 (Part 2 of 2) | In Part 2 of the compelling conversation with SAND founders Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo, the discussion turns to the making of their 2021 documentary film about the tragic injustices inflicted upon Palestinians in the West Bank. Where Olive Trees Weep is a very beautiful, heartbreaking, and eye opening film we highly recommend to our listeners. “How do we stop the violence?” asks co-host John Dupuy. No one knows the answer, but “each of us can find a way to alleviate the suffering in Palestine now as we grapple with the question of how to stop the wounds that continue to bleed,” Zaya and Maurizio contend. “We can stand for justice, food, and human rights, recognize the dignity of Palestinians and fight for their freedom.” Spiritual communities are mostly quiet on this issue, Zaya mentions. But “it’s not a political issue,” she says, “it’s a human issue—we are losing our humanity. If we believe in oneness, we need to face our discomfort and turn towards the pain, towards the suffering. Discomfort is the very essence of the issue on a psychological and archetypal level,” Zaya adds. Zaya and Maurizio are also working on a remarkable series of films called The Eternal Song, an ongoing project to bring forth teachings from Indigenous communities around the world. To date, they have released The Eternal Song, Mauri: The Vital Essence of All Beings, and most recently If an Owl Calls Your Name. Thank you, Zaya and Maurizio, for contributing your gifts in these stunning films, so poignant and important in these disconnected, turbulent times, and for sharing your extraordinary wisdom with our Deep Transformation listeners. Recorded October 16, 2025.“Opening to the darkness and the pain is the gift of this time. We are all one; we cannot continue to separate ourselves into our comfortable silos.”Topics & Time Stamps – Part 2Making the 2021 film Where Olive Trees Weep, about the tragic mistreatment of Palestinians in the West Bank (00:58)Making films about the effects of colonization all over the world (04:36)The more hateful the emails Zaya & Mauriozio received, the more they answered & engaged (06:01)There are 80 years of history behind the conflict in Palestine; everywhere you look there’s injustice (06:57)Apartheid in Palestine is maybe more extreme than in South Africa (10:26)What can we do about Gaza now? Stand for justice, food & human rights, recognize the dignity of Palestinians & fight for their freedom (12:37)Netanyahu is not the problem, the system is rotten to the core (15:20)How do we stop the violence? (18:49)Acknowledging the beauty & power of Zaya & Maurizio’s Where Olive Trees Weep (20:37)The silence about Gaza in most spiritual communities: if we believe in oneness, we need to turn towards the suffering (25:38) Thanking Zaya & Maurizio for the film, and tales of the transformative effects of engaging with senders of hate mail (29:26)Zaya & Maurizio’s movie The Eternal Song came out in June 2025, but they are making many more films in Indigenous communities, like If an Owl Calls Your Name (link below) (34:10)Opening to the darkness and the pain is the gift of this time—we are all one, and we cannot continue to separate ourselves into our comfortable silos (37:57)Resources & References – Part 2Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo, founders of the Science & Nonduality ConferenceThe Wisdom of Trauma featuring Gabor Maté, produced by Zaya & Maurizio BenazzoWhere Olive Trees Weep, produced by Zaya & Maurizio BenazzoRabbi Lynn GottliebMeital Yaniv, BloodlinesTara Brach, courageous spiritual teacherJohn Dupuy’s song, Ukraine! on YouTubeThe Eternal Song, produced by Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo Mauri: The Vital Essence of All Beings, produced by Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo If an Owl Calls Your Name, produced by Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo---Maurizio and Zaya Benazzo merged their lifelong passions for science and mysticism when they met in 2007, and their first project together was filming the documentary Rays of the Absolute on the life and teachings of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. This project sparked their next level of creation and collaboration: SAND, a global community inspired by the timeless wisdom traditions, informed by modern science, and grounded in direct experience. Together they have produced and directed several award-winning documentaries including The Wisdom of Trauma, The Art of Life, Rays of the Absolute, Where Olive Trees Weep, Mauri, and If an Owl Calls Your Name. Zaya and Maurizio live, work, and play on the unceded ancestral lands of the Coast Miwok and Southern Pomo people, in Sebastopol, California.---Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos and Show Notes by Heidi Mitchell | — | ||||||
| 12/4/25 | ![]() Where Science, Spirituality & Indigenous Wisdom Meet: The Remarkable Contributions of Filmmakers Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo | Ep. 211 (Part 1 of 2) | Zaya and Maurizio Benazzo are not only the founders of the longstanding and highly regarded Science & Nonduality Conference (SAND), but also brilliant filmmakers, producing stunning documentaries about the injustice and suffering occurring in Palestine and elsewhere, as well as films that feature the eternal wisdom of elders from Indigenous communities around the world. Zaya and Maurizio are clearly passionate about their work, and co-host Roger Walsh points out they do a beautiful job of intertwining the personal, professional, and spiritual into an offering that meets the needs of our time. As Maurizio says, “There is no spiritual work. Period. Everything is spiritual work! It’s life.”In Part 1 of this episode, lively and inspired, Zaya and Maurizio share what they’ve learned about life, spirituality, trauma, healing, guidance, and the deep-time perspective of the Maori. They relate the trajectory of SAND’s evolution from featuring male-dominated nondual teachings to including an understanding of trauma, somatic healing, feminine, earth-oriented teachings, and Indigenous wisdom. “Healing never ends; it’s a lifelong journey—there’s no modern solution that will ‘fix’ you,” Zaya tells us. Also, “We are constantly being guided if we just listen.”In Part 2, Zaya and Maurizio describe the making of their 2021 documentary about the tragic mistreatment of Palestinians in the West Bank, a beautiful, heartbreaking film called Where Olive Trees Weep. Also their film The Eternal Song, an ongoing project to bring forth Indigenous teachings, so valuable and timely for us now in our chaotic, disconnected world. This whole conversation is thought provoking, delightful, profound, paradigm shifting, and inspiring all at once. Recorded October 16, 2025.“There is no spiritual work without trauma work.”Topics & Time Stamps – Part 1Introducing Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo, documentary filmmakers & founders of the Science & Nonduality Conference (SAND) (00:57)Tracing the trajectory of Zaya & Maurizio’s work, beginning in India (02:24)What was Nisargadatta Maharaj’s legacy? (03:47)Putting science and mystics together: the seed that created SAND (06:35)How SAND evolved from male-dominated nondual teachings to include the body, an understanding of trauma, and female & Indigenous teachers (08:18)Feminizing spiritual teachings: women mystics & their connection with the Earth (12:38)SAND focuses on educating the audience to be open, ask good questions, rather than uplifting particular teachers (16:09)How the film The Wisdom of Trauma with Gabor Maté went viral (20:08)All of life is spiritual work, and there’s no spiritual work without trauma work, but spiritual bypassing was very real at SAND (24:13)With Maté’s understanding about trauma, people find they’re not alone and they don’t need to “fix” the pain (26:39)Healing is a lifelong journey; trauma is systemic and intergenerational (32:08)The deep-time perspective and how the Maori trace their ancestors back to the stars (33:22)Indigenous teachers say we heal backwards and we heal forwards; nothing is individual, we are all interconnected (34:54)Now is the time for the Long Dark, not the time for the search for the light (38:52)We are all here for a purpose, and we are constantly being guided if we just listen (42:31)The suffering of today’s youth, isolated and without elders (45:00)Resources & References – Part 1Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo, founders of the Science & Nonduality ConferenceZaya & Maurizio’s first movie together: The Rays of the Absolute: The Legacy of Sri Nisargadatta MaharajSri Nisargadatta Maharaj, I Am ThatDr. Gabor Maté, The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic CultureThe A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series (on the Deep Transformation podcast)The Wisdom of Trauma featuring Gabor Maté, produced by Zaya & Maurizio BenazzoMauri: The Vital Essence of All Beings, produced by Zaya & Maurizio BenazzoFrancis Weller: The Long Dark (YouTube video)Arnold Toynbee, A Study of History (the cycle of withdrawal and return)Where Olive Trees Weep, produced by Zaya & Maurizio Benazzo---Maurizio and Zaya Benazzo merged their lifelong passions for science and mysticism when they met in 2007, and their first project together was filming the documentary Rays of the Absolute on the life and teachings of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj. This project sparked their next level of creation and collaboration: SAND, a global community inspired by the timeless wisdom traditions, informed by modern science, and grounded in direct experience. Together they have produced and directed several award-winning documentaries including The Wisdom of Trauma, The Art of Life, Rays of the Absolute, Where Olive Trees Weep, Mauri, and If an Owl Calls Your Name. Zaya and Maurizio live, work, and play on the unceded ancestral lands of the Coast Miwok and Southern Pomo people, in Sebastopol, California.---Podcast produced by Vanessa Santos and Show Notes by Heidi Mitchell | — | ||||||
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