149. How Popular Musicians Learn by Lucy Green

About this episode

The episode discusses Lucy Green's research on how popular musicians learn, challenging traditional narratives about music education.

A lot of the classic expertise research, especially the research about deliberate practice and the "10,000 hour rule", is inspired by K. Anders Ericcson's study of violinists at the Berlin Conservatory. However, we have seen before how misleading sampling a particular culture and generalising the findings over the whole of humanity can be. Thankfully, Lucy Green's How Popular Musicians Learn gives us something of an antidote to this classical music bias. Green's book is based on interviews with 14 musicians in south-east England, of which 13 were instrumentalists and one, a singer. Their musical genres were all "guitar-based popular music" which includes rock and folk music. In her book, a number of findings undermine standard narratives about learning, including the inevitability of practice being unpleasant (the musicians enjoy their practice, unline classical musicains); the need for sheet music in order to learn (they all worked from recordings, and most couldn't read music); and the need for instruction (none of these musicians had been extensively formally trained, and those who had been had found it unhelpful). Enjoy the episode. *** RELATED EPISODES Check out other…

People in this episode

Guest: Lucy Green

Topics covered

• popular music
• learning
• musicians
• deliberate practice

Keywords

• expertise research
• 10,000 hour rule
• guitar-based music
• rock music
• folk music

Mentioned in this episode

Products: How Popular Musicians Learn

Books & works: Popular Musicians Learn, How Popular Musicians Learn, Developing Talent in Young People, Cultural Foundations of Learning, East, The Anthroplogy of Childhood, The World Until Yesterday, The Geography of Thought, Buy Me a Coffee

Places: England

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