Measuring what actually matters in Edtech

Measuring what actually matters in Edtech

From Education Futures by Svenia Busson & Laurent Jolie

June 1, 2026 · 47 min · Season 1 · Episode 47

About this episode

Dr. Asyia Kazmi discusses her experiences in education and the importance of measuring learning effectively in the context of Edtech.

Dr. Asyia Kazmi, OBE spent 12 years teaching mathematics in some of London's toughest schools, and she loved every minute of it. She went on to advise the UK government, work at PwC, lead Global Education Policy at the Gates Foundation, and is now CEO of WISE (World Innovation Summit for Education, https://www.wise-qatar.org/ ), a Qatar Foundation initiative that convenes the world's leading minds to solve education's hardest problems. In this conversation with Svenia Busson, recorded live in Paris, Asyia shares what the classroom taught her that no policy document ever could and how that foundation shapes every investment decision, every programme she designs, and her vision for the school of the future. We explore: — What it really means to measure learning, and why waiting 2–3 years for impact evaluations is simply unacceptable — How she built an AI and EdTech portfolio at the Gates Foundation that significantly improved the learning of 2.5 million children across India and Sub-Saharan Africa, working with partners like Central Square Foundation, Fab Inc, and EIDU. — What she looks for when evaluating an EdTech product (from pedagogical rigour to data protection for children)…

People in this episode

Host: Svenia Busson

Guest: Dr. Asyia Kazmi

Topics covered

  • Edtech
  • learning measurement
  • AI in education
  • future of schools
  • teacher roles
  • education policy

Keywords

  • Edtech
  • learning measurement
  • AI
  • future schools
  • education policy
  • teacher roles
  • motivation
  • WISE Prize

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Gates Foundation, WISE, Central Square Foundation, Fab Inc, EIDU

Places: UK, Paris, India, Sub-Saharan Africa

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