Same Conversation, Different Experience: Why Couples Miss Each Other w/Jason VanRuler, 2

Same Conversation, Different Experience: Why Couples Miss Each Other w/Jason VanRuler, 2

From Enneagram and Marriage by Christa Hardin, MA

April 22, 2026 · 36 min

About this episode

Christa and Jason discuss why couples often have different experiences from the same conversation and explore the PATHS Assessment for understanding communication types.

Christa sits down with Jason VanRuler (type 2), therapist and author who specializes in communication and relationships, for a conversation about why couples can walk away from the same conversation with completely different experiences. Jason breaks down the PATHS Assessment he developed to help couples understand their communication types and why what you say isn't always what your partner hears. They discuss how your family system growing up shapes the way you communicate now, the five communication types and how they show up in conflict, and what to do when you think you're aligned but your spouse is somewhere else entirely. If you've ever had a conversation where you thought everything was fine only to discover later it absolutely was not, this episode will show you exactly what's happening and how to bridge the gap. Watch YouTube! Show links: Jason VanRuler's new book: https://www.jasonvr.com/book/ Jason's website to get on the list! https://www.jasonvr.com/ Find more about your type, the pod, freebies, and SO much more at our website right here…

People in this episode

Guest: Jason VanRuler

Topics covered

  • communication
  • relationships
  • conflict resolution
  • family systems
  • Enneagram

Keywords

  • PATHS Assessment
  • communication types
  • conflict
  • family influence

Mentioned in this episode

Products: Jason VanRuler's new book

Books & works: The Enneagram in Marriage

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