
So... Where’s the snow?
From Grounding by Sarah Aronson
January 21, 2026 · 32 min · Season 2 · Episode 2
About this episode
Sarah Aronson discusses climate emotions with experts Renee Lertzman and Panu Pihkala, exploring how language helps us process feelings about the environment.
In this episode of “Grounding,” season two, Sarah Aronson talks to Renee Lertzman and Panu Pihkala, two experts in the field of climate emotions, who offer models for processing our feelings as well as understanding why we assume people don’t care about the environment when they actually might. Aronson explores how language can be helpful in identifying what we're feeling. She finds that sometimes we live with experiences, but we can't quite wrap our heads around them. Language, and even foreign language, can help ground us. To this point, Aronson and Pihkala discuss one of Aronson’s favorite Finnish words: “lumiahdistus,” or the feeling of longing for snow, without certainty that it will fall.
People in this episode
Host: Sarah Aronson
Guests: Renee Lertzman, Panu Pihkala
Topics covered
- climate emotions
- language
- environmental awareness
- feelings
- Finnish culture
Keywords
- climate emotions
- environment
- language
- feelings
- Finnish words
- snow longing
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: lumiahdistus
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