Pete Hegseth, I'm not sure that was a prayer.

Pete Hegseth, I'm not sure that was a prayer.

From Heavy Things Lightly by John Heers

April 21, 2026 · 45 min

About this episode

John Heers discusses American politics and societal issues with guest Jonathan Pageau, touching on the Symbolic World Summit.

Find this episode on YouTube: Jonathan Pageau is back for a short chat, because we have to talk about clown world and Hegseth, and what in the world is going on in American politics. BUT! Also, we have to mention Symbolic World and especially the upcoming conference. Hope to see you all in Ohio, follow the link below for more info!Symbolic World Summit: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ -----------------------Conrad's Deli - The best jerky you'll ever have: https://conradsdeli.com/ use promo code "FIRST THINGS" for 10% off.-----------------------✒ Substack: https://johnheersftf.substack.com/ⓧ https://x.com/johnfromftf🍷The best dinner party you've ever experienced - Supra Dinner Society: https://supradinner.com/🏖️ Tailormade tours that give back: https://www.gratitude-travels.com/home🔎 Discover the non-profit behind Heavy Things Lightly: https://first-things.org/ ✈ Become a Field Worker with FTF: https://first-things.org/opportunities📢 First Things Telegram: https://t.me/firstthingsfoundation🥂 Keipi Restaurant: https://keipirestaurant.orgPlease leave a review with your comments! Your support keeps this podcast alive and allows us to broaden our discussion. ---This…

People in this episode

Host: John Heers

Guest: Jonathan Pageau

Topics covered

  • American politics
  • clown world
  • Symbolic World Summit
  • society
  • culture

Keywords

  • Pete Hegseth
  • Jonathan Pageau
  • Symbolic World
  • American politics
  • clown world
  • society
  • culture

Sponsors

Conrad's Deli

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Symbolic World, Supra Dinner Society, Gratitude Travels, First Things Foundation, Keipi Restaurant

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