Why “Another ATS” Isn’t Enough Anymore—and What Comes Next!

Why “Another ATS” Isn’t Enough Anymore—and What Comes Next!

From HR Famous by WRKdefined Podcast Network

January 22, 2026 · 21 min

About this episode

Matt Schalsey discusses the innovative approach of Perfect Hire in redefining recruiting technology beyond traditional ATS.

et pitched new recruiting technology all the time. New ATSs, new “AI-powered” platforms, new promises to fix what’s broken in talent acquisition. So when someone first told me I needed to check out PerfectHire, another ATS, my reaction was pretty predictable: Here we go again. But then they added something that piqued my curiosity: "ATS+". That’s what pulled me into a conversation with Matt Schalsey, founder (or co-founder, depending on how you count it) of Perfect Hire, and the guest on this episode of HR Famous. And the deeper we went, the clearer it became this wasn’t a rip-and-replace ATS with a few shiny features slapped on top. This was a complete rethink of how recruiting technology should actually work. Matt’s background isn’t traditional HR tech; it’s sales enablement. And that matters. Sales figured out years ago what recruiting is still struggling with: high performers don’t win because they work harder on admin. They win because technology removes friction, so they can focus on what actually drives results. Conversations. Relationships. Decisions. That’s the core idea behind Perfect Hire. Instead of forcing recruiters into rigid workflows, Perfect Hire breaks the ATS…

People in this episode

Guest: Matt Schalsey

Topics covered

  • ATS
  • recruiting technology
  • talent acquisition
  • sales enablement

Keywords

  • Perfect Hire
  • ATS+
  • recruiter enablement
  • high performers

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Products: Perfect Hire

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