Enter the Dragon

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Wai Yan Phyo Naing discusses the transactional nature of Sino-Myanmar relations and the implications for both countries.

Episode #517: “They are using each other for their own benefit.” With this line, Wai Yan Phyo Naing frames a sober account of SinoMyanmar relations. A researcher and lecturer in international relations and modern history who studied in Moscow and later worked with migrants in Thailand, Wai Yan Phyo Naing brings both scholarship and field experience to the conversation. For Wai Yan Phyo Naing, the relationship is transactional. “China is only interested in its national interests,” he says. “China is ready to communicate with whoever becomes powerful in Myanmar.” Myanmar engages because it must, yet, as Wai Yan Phyo Naing insists, “Myanmar is a sovereign, independent state—not a province of China.” Geography drives the rest: China seeks an outlet to the Indian Ocean, and Myanmar’s coast provides it. The pipelines from Kyaukphyu to Yunnan are operating; the rail vision remains contested—proof, Wai Yan Phyo Naing says, that consent and fair terms decide outcomes. Security realities push cooperation, as Wai Yan Phyo Naing notes that China brokered talks with MNDAA, TNLA, and AA, even “opened the observer office in Lashio,” and, as the generals realized the limits of unilateral force…

People in this episode

Guest: Wai Yan Phyo Naing

Topics covered

• Sino-Myanmar relations
• international relations
• national interests
• sovereignty
• cross-border cooperation
• security
• economic interdependence

Keywords

• Sino-Myanmar relations
• Wai Yan Phyo Naing
• national interests
• sovereignty
• cross-border cooperation
• security
• economic interdependence

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: China, Myanmar

Places: Moscow, Thailand, Kyaukphyu, Yunnan, Indian Ocean, Lashio, Ayeyarwady River

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