A Vision of a ‘Society Without Capitalism’
From Interesting Times by New York Times Opinion
July 16, 2026 · 58 min
About this episode
Bhaskar Sunkara discusses the potential of democratic socialism to reshape the Democratic Party and the American economy.
Democratic socialists are having a moment. But can they actually remake the Democratic Party — and the American economy — in their image? My guest today, Bhaskar Sunkara, is longtime democratic socialist, and he makes the case that socialism has a universal appeal that transcends our current politics and will ultimately triumph against capitalism.
People in this episode
Host: Ross Douthat
Guest: Bhaskar Sunkara
Topics covered
- democratic socialism
- American economy
- political transformation
- capitalism vs socialism
- Democratic Party
Keywords
- democratic socialism
- capitalism
- American economy
- politics
- Bhaskar Sunkara
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Democratic Party, American economy
Books & works: socialism, capitalism
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