Ep 146: Jake Paul & Geoff Woo on Building Anti Fund, the Future of the Creator Economy & How to Change the Culture

Ep 146: Jake Paul & Geoff Woo on Building Anti Fund, the Future of the Creator Economy & How to Change the Culture

From Joe Lonsdale: American Optimist by Joe Lonsdale

March 19, 2026 · 36 min

About this episode

Jake Paul and Geoff Woo discuss the future of the creator economy, their venture Anti Fund, and the impact of AI on culture.

Jake Paul is a social media influencer-turned-entrepreneur and boxer. He’s not only one of the most popular figures on the planet among Gen Z, but also an outspoken patriot, capitalist, and builder. Together, he and Geoff Woo founded Anti Fund and have backed OpenAI, Anduril, Ramp, among others. Why did Jake decide to speak out on politics? How do we win over the next generation? And how is AI changing the culture, from new social media platforms to prediction markets and the revival of in-person events? We recorded this conversation the day after Jake appeared with President Trump at a Kentucky rally. He explains why he’s speaking out on politics, even if it costs him financially, and why authenticity is key to cultural influence. Next, we explore the origins of Anti Fund, and how Jake and Geoff had the conviction to back Anduril before defense tech was in vogue. They also invested in OpenAI and were instrumental in rolling out Sora; learn about the strategy behind the launch and the challenges around AI slop and identity authentication. Additionally, Jake is the co-founder of Betr, and we discuss its recent partnership with Polymarket, what’s next for prediction markets, and…

People in this episode

Host: Joe Lonsdale

Guests: Jake Paul, Geoff Woo

Topics covered

  • creator economy
  • politics
  • AI
  • cultural influence
  • investment
  • social media

Keywords

  • Jake Paul
  • Geoff Woo
  • Anti Fund
  • creator economy
  • politics
  • OpenAI
  • Anduril
  • investment
  • social media

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Anti Fund, OpenAI, Anduril, Ramp, Betr, Polymarket

Places: Kentucky

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