Episode 150: Liesbeth van der Horst - How To Resist Fascism

Episode 150: Liesbeth van der Horst - How To Resist Fascism

From Keep Talking by Dan Riley

September 26, 2025 · 49 min

About this episode

Liesbeth van der Horst discusses her role at the Verzetsmuseum and the lessons from WWII resistance against fascism.

Liesbeth van der Horst is the director of the Verzetsmuseum - the Museum of WWII Resistance in Amsterdam. ------------ Keep Talking Substack Spotify Apple Podcasts Social media and all episodes ------------ Support via Venmo Support on Substack Support on Patreon ------------ (00:00) Origins of the Resistance Museum (02:05) Moving Locations and Growth (04:12) Becoming Director in 2003 (06:45) Lessons from Resistance Figures (09:30) The 1940 German Invasion (13:10) Early Occupation and Dutch Nazis (16:42) The February Strike of 1941 (21:20) Gradual Anti-Jewish Measures (25:18) Deportations and Camp Westerbork (29:35) Dutch Traditions of Tolerance (33:10) Hiding, Families, and Anne Frank (38:28) Who Resisted and Why (42:15) Gerrit van der Veen’s Story (44:50) Fake IDs and Underground Efforts (47:08) Remembering Resistance Fighters (49:05) Why the Museum Still Matters

People in this episode

Host: Dan Riley

Guest: Liesbeth van der Horst

Topics covered

  • Resistance during WWII
  • Fascism
  • Dutch history
  • Museum of WWII
  • Anti-Jewish measures
  • Personal stories of resistance

Keywords

  • Resistance Museum
  • WWII
  • Fascism
  • Dutch Nazis
  • Deportations
  • Tolerance
  • Resistance Fighters

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Verzetsmuseum

Places: Amsterdam, Camp Westerbork

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