Kitchen Conversations

#75 – in conversation with writer, web developer, media artist and educator Maisa Imamović. On the podcast Maisa is speaking about her newest book Maisa in Webland - Detouring UX* Destinies published by Set Margines #63 in 2025. The book combines fiction, interviews, case studies, and critical theory to shed light onto the history of the web and gives examples of how we can still resist dominant digital structures and build alternative realities at a time when much of the web has been taken over by the Big Tech. References: Maisa in Webland - get book: https://www.setmargins.press/books/maisa_in_webland/ The Psychology of the Web Developer - get book: https://networkcultures.org/blog/publication/the-psychology-of-the-web-developer-reality-of-a-female-freelancer/ Mini-series "What's More Important than Two Women Talking About Web Development?" by Maisa Imamović and Clara Pasteau - watch: https://youtu.be/ctEgy-DQgTE?si=6U3Yk6O5_261daEN Choose Maisa's documents - have a look: https://mai-maps.vercel.app/ Maisa's website - have a look: https://maisaimamovic.eu/ Maisa's favourite (home) food: Zeljanica ___ Support the podcast: Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kitchenconversations Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/kitchenconversations Visit shop: https://www.etsy.com/de-en/shop/PatrycjaRozwora?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1398125905&from_page=listing Get in touch: https://www.instagram.com/kitchenconversations.podcast/ ___ Thumbnail: Portrait of Maisa by Brandon Tauszik Recording, editing & translation: Patrycja Rozwora Mix & master: Jonas Kröper

#66 - in conversation with Canadian animation artist of Mongolian roots, Alisi Telengut. In this episode, you will meet Alisi, whose frame-by-frame, hand-painted animations blur the line between visual art and ethnographic storytelling. Working primarily with pastel and mixed media under the camera, Alisi creates extraordinary movement through painterly textures, exploring nomadic and Indigenous ways of life in Mongolia and beyond. The podcast conversation centers on her 2023 short film Baigal Nuur – Lake Baikal, a breathtaking reimagining of the formation of the world’s oldest lake in Siberia. The film features hand-painted animation, found objects, and the voice of an Indigenous Buryat woman, preserving fragments of her endangered language—a dialect of Mongolian. References: Artist web https://alisitelengut.com/ Films by Alisi: Becoming Air (2024) https://alisitelengut.com/Becoming-Air-2024 Baigal Nuur - Lake Baikal (2023) https://alisitelengut.com/Baigal-Nuur-Lake-Baikal-2023 Tengri (2012) https://alisitelengut.com/TENGRI-2012 Exhibition in Rosalux (Berlin) https://rosalux.com/galleries/anima-alisi-telengut/ Interfilm Berlin https://www.interfilm.de/ Alisi's favourite home food: German quark, urum and khuruud (types of Mongolian cream and cheese) ___ Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kitchenconversations Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/kitchenconversations Visit shop: https://www.etsy.com/de-en/shop/PatrycjaRozwora?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1398125905&from_page=listing Get in touch: https://www.instagram.com/kitchenconversations.podcast/ ___ Recording & editing: Patrycja Rozwora Mix & master: Jonas Kröper

#64 - in conversation with London-based, Uzbek multidisciplinary artist, Aziza Kadyri Aziza Kadyri is passionate about exploring new ways of engaging with cultural heritage, with a particular focus on textiles and costume—art forms that have traditionally been labelled as 'feminine'. She’s also deeply interested in how XR/AR/VR and AI technologies can enhance artistic research, edutainment, and socially engaged practices. At the heart of her practice is a commitment to participatory work, especially within Central Asian and Uzbek communities. In this episode, we dive into her role in co-creating the exhibition for the Uzbekistan National Pavilion at the 60th Venice Biennale. Through this conversation, Aziza shares her vibrant, globally-spanning journey toward becoming an established artist, showcasing her work around the world. Most importantly, she highlights her mission to amplify the voices of Central Asian women artisans—whose stories have often been overlooked by history. References: Aziza website https://www.azizakadyri.com/ Aziza Instagram https://www.instagram.com/aziza.kadyri/ Qizlar Collective https://www.instagram.com/qizlarqizlarqizlar/ Uzbekistan Pavilion 2024 https://www.les-nouveaux-riches.com/interview-uzbekistan-pavilion-2024/ (Les Nouveaux Riches) Aziza about the Uzbek Pavilion part 1 https://www.instagram.com/p/DDKCtS9I53K/ Aziza about the Uzbek Pavilion part 2 https://www.instagram.com/p/DDws0tuIlKV/ Somerset House, London https://www.somersethouse.org.uk/ Aziza's favourite home food: Moshhurda or Moshkichiri (Uzbek soup/porridge with mung beans) ___ Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kitchenconversations Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/kitchenconversations Visit shop: https://www.etsy.com/de-en/shop/PatrycjaRozwora?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1398125905&from_page=listing Get in touch: https://www.instagram.com/kitchenconversations.podcast/ ___ Recording & editing: Patrycja Rozwora Mix & master: Jonas Kröper

#62 - in conversation with Belarusian filmmaker - Artsiom Lobach. Artsiom Lobach is the final guest recommended by the Belarusian Filmmakers Network. Today, we dive into his documentary film Way Home (2020), which tells the story of Pavlo – a young man who, following Crimea’s annexation by Russia in 2014, moves to the Ukrainian countryside in search of solitude. Belarusian filmmaker Artsiom, only truly understood his protagonist’s journey after he himself, was forced to leave Belarus and settle in Vilnius, Lithuania. Podcast created in collaborating with Belarusian Filmmakers Network (BFN) Films by Artsiom Lobach: Way Home https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=delw9Nu65aM New Year's Speech by Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVSjI7aEH3k Belarusian Folk Songs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za3W_2SIwAs&t=7s Other references: Artist Website https://artsiomlobach.wixsite.com/make-video-with-love Artist Youtube https://www.youtube.com/c/ArtsiomLobach European Humanities University in Vilnius https://en.ehu.lt/about/ Wajda School in Warsaw https://wajdaschool.pl/ Downshifters (lifestyle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downshifting_(lifestyle) Favourite home food: Potato and pumpkin bake, Carrots with hummus ___ Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kitchenconversations Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/kitchenconversations Visit shop: https://www.etsy.com/de-en/shop/PatrycjaRozwora?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1398125905&from_page=listing Get in touch: https://www.instagram.com/kitchenconversations.podcast/ ___ Recording & editing: Patrycja Rozwora Mix & master: Jonas Kröper Thumbnail photo by Ruslan Sereduk

#60 - in conversation with Belarusian filmmaker and writer, Vladimir Kozlov. Born in Mogilev, an industrial city in what is now Belarus, Vladimir Kozlov grew up amidst the unraveling of the Soviet Union. His formative years in the suburbs were marked by the chaos of the early 1990s—a time of unbridled freedom, wild capitalism, and rampant crime. Moving from Mogilev to Minsk and eventually to Moscow, Vladimir has dedicated his life to unpacking the legacy of the Soviet past. Through his writing and cinematographic work, he delves deep into the cultural and social fabric of Russian and Belarusian society, asking pressing questions: Where did we go wrong? What did we overlook, leading us back to a totalitarian and authoritarian reality? Podcast created in collaborating with Belarusian Filmmakers Network (BFN) Films by Vladimir Kozlov: Number 10 (2013) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WpAKih8Ak0 Whatever We Want (2019) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REZpHrzQH0o&t=10s Three Comrades (2020) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chU-CDMLSz4&t=649s Summer of '89 (2022) https://vodblisk.northernlightsff.com/summer_of_89 Other references: Artist YouTube https://www.youtube.com/vkozlov Artist Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/v_kozlov/ ___ Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kitchenconversations Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/kitchenconversations Visit shop: https://www.etsy.com/de-en/shop/PatrycjaRozwora?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1398125905&from_page=listing Get in touch: https://www.instagram.com/kitchenconversations.podcast/ ___ Recording & editing: Patrycja Rozwora Mix & master: Jonas Kröper

# 59 [original] - in conversation with Open Group - a Ukrainian art collective representing Poland at the 60th La Biennale di Venezia. In this episode, Patrycja sits down with Yuriy Biley and Anton Varga, two members of Open Group, to explore their thought-provoking audiovisual installation, Repeat after Me II. This powerful work serves as a collective portrait of civilian witnesses to the ongoing war in Ukraine. Featuring two videos created in 2022 and 2024, the installation presents refugee stories through the haunting sounds of weaponry they recall. Using a unique karaoke format, the piece invites viewers to mimic these sounds, teaching them to identify weapons by ear—a skill that could, in a dystopian future, be the key to survival. References: Open Group website http://open-group.org.ua/en/about-us Polish Pavillion in Venice https://labiennale.art.pl/en/ Repeat after Me II publication https://zacheta.art.pl/en/e-sklep/katalog/repeat-after-me-ii Yuriy Biley https://www.instagram.com/yuriy.biley/ Anton Varga https://www.instagram.com/anton.varga/ ___ Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kitchenconversations Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/kitchenconversations Visit shop: https://www.etsy.com/de-en/shop/PatrycjaRozwora?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1398125905&from_page=listing Get in touch: https://www.instagram.com/kitchenconversations.podcast/ ___ Podcast thumbnail: (from the left) Pavlo Kovach, Yuriy Biley, Anton Varga at the opening of the 60th La Biennale di Venezia. Recording & editing: Patrycja Rozwora Mix & master: Jonas Kröper

#57 - in conversation with artist and researcher from Ukraine and Germany, Marija Petrovic. In her artistic practice, Marija is interested in situations of fragile contact and interaction, as well as in the multi-layered complexities of memory and representation. In the podcast she talks about her publication 'Silver', which examines the silverware collection looted by the Nazis from Jewish-German communities in Hamburg. Marija also shares the first results of her doctoral research on vulnerability and the past and present of Ukraine from a decolonial perspective. References: Silver by Marija Petrovic and Ofri Lapid https://material-verlag.hfbk-hamburg.de/en/material/440-silver HFBK Hamburg https://www.hfbk-hamburg.de/en/ Museum fur Kunst & Gewerbe Hamburg https://www.mkg-hamburg.de/en Timothy Snyder https://timothysnyder.org/ Marija's favourite home food: Ukrainian potato pancakes - Deruny, and Crimean street food - Chebureki ___ Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kitchenconversations Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/kitchenconversations Visit shop: https://www.etsy.com/de-en/shop/PatrycjaRozwora?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1398125905&from_page=listing Get in touch: https://www.instagram.com/kitchenconversations.podcast/ ___ Thumbnail: Silverware - vitrine view in the Museum of Arts and Crafts Hamburg (MK&G), photo: Ofri Lapid Recording & editing: Patrycja Rozwora Mix & master: Jonas Kröper

#55 - in conversation with visual artist representing Romania at the 60th La Biennale di Venezia, Șerban Savu. The exhibition in the Romanian Pavilion, What Work Is, revisits the iconography of labour, drawing inspiration from historical realism and the propaganda art of the Eastern Bloc. Instead of challenging these discourses directly, Șerban challenges them by rearranging their tropes. His aim is to capture and portray moments of pause and inactivity, of indistinction between work and leisure, as reflections of broader societal changes or crises. The Romanian Pavilion at the Biennale Arte 2024 is curated by Ciprian Mureșan. The exhibition will take place in both the Giardini della Biennale and at The New Gallery of the Romanian Institute of Culture and Humanistic Research in Venice from April 20 till November 24, 2024. Favourite home food: Ciorba de loboda, Stinging Nettle Salad References: Biennale Arte 2024 | Romania Dawid Radziszewski Gallery Galeria Plan B ___ Buy me a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kitchenconversations Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/kitchenconversations Visit shop: https://www.etsy.com/de-en/shop/PatrycjaRozwora?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1398125905&from_page=listing Get in touch: https://www.instagram.com/kitchenconversations.podcast/ ___ Podcast thumbnail: Șerban Savu by Paul Stoie / courtesy of Galeria Plan B Recording & editing: Patrycja Rozwora Mix & master: Jonas Kröper