Knowing Animals

On this episode, we speak to Nathan Poirier. Nathan is an interdisciplinary critical animal studies scholar with a background in anthrozoology, sociology, and mathematics. He currently teaches at Lansing Community College in Michigan. He's the co-editor of the 2022 collection Emerging New Voices in Critical Animal Studies: Vegan Studies for Total Liberation, the 2023 collection Expanding the Critical Animal Studies Imagination: Essays in Solidarity and Total Liberation, and of the 2024 collection Veganarchism: Making Veganism and Anarchism Dangerous Again. We talk about the 2025 Lantern Publishing collection Exploring Topics in Non/Human Coexistence: Passion, Praxis, and Presence, which Nathan co-edited with Sarah Tomasello, Erin Jones, and Mark Suchyta. In particular, we dig into one of Nathan's chapters: 'Veganism as an overlooked component of anarchafeminism?' In the quick questions, Nathan mentioned; Ignoring Nature No More, edited by Marc Bekoff. https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/I/bo14398472.html His paper (with Sarah Tomasello) 'Polar Similar': https://animaliajournal.wordpress.com/2017/03/25/polar-similar-intersections-of-anthropology-and-conservation/ John Tallent, author of How to Unite the Left on Animals (see an interview with Kim Stallwood here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/how-to-unite-on-101030529) His 'A6' Against Cultured Meat, co-authored with Richard Giles: https://www.activedistributionshop.org/product/against-cultured-meat-a6/

This episode's returning guest is Professor Claire Parkinson, Professor of Culture, Communication and Screen Studies at Edge Hill University in the UK. She's also the Co-Director of the university's Centre for Human Animal Studies, which she established in 2014. Her books include 2011's Popular Media and Animals and 2020's Animals, Anthropomorphism and Mediated Encounters. Today, however, we're going to talk about her 2024 Sydney University Press collection Animal Activism On and Off Screen, which she co-edited with Lara Herring. In particular, we're going to look at Claire's chapter 'Anti-capitalism, animal rights and advocacy in Okja'. Knowing Animals is proudly sponsored by the Animal Politics series at Sydney University Press, the publishers of Animal Activism On and Off Screen!

Dr Walter Veit is a lecturer in philosophy at the University of Reading in the UK. His research concerns the philosophy of science, the philosophy of mind, and applied ethics, and his books include Modelling Evolution and What Are Zoos For?, the latter co-authored with Heather Browning. On this episode, we discuss his 2023 book A Philosophy for the Science of Animal Consciousness, which was published by Routledge. This episode is proudly sponsored by the Animal Politics book series, from Sydney University Press.

Today's guest is Dr Doris Schneeberger of the Vienna University of Economics and Business. Doris's academic background is in animal ethics and animal organizational studies. We're discuss her 2024 Palgrave Macmillan book Envisioning a Better Future for Nonhuman Animals: Towards Future Animal Rights Declarations. This is one of the three books shortlisted for the Australasian Animal Studies Association's inaugural Siobhan O'Sullivan Book Prize. (The others are Josh Milburn's Food, Justice, and Animals: Feeding the World Respectfully and Yamini Narayanan's Mother Cow, Mother India: A Multispecies Politics of Dairy in India.) The winner will be announced this month. In her answers to her quick questions, Doris mentioned Peter Singer, Pablo Castelló, Claudia Hirtenfelder, and Nico Dario Müller.

This episode's guest is Dr Rimona Afana. Rimona is a Romanian-Palestinian academic, as well as an activist and multimedia artist. Her research addresses war crimes, crimes against humanity, crimes against nature, and crimes against nonhuman animals. Her work has taken her to various institutions, including Emory University School of Law and Kennesaw State University in the US, where she was an Assistant Professor of Peace Studies. Among her other research projects, she is working on a book with the working title Ecocide/Speciesism: Rethinking Interdependence in the Anthropocene. In this episode, however, we discuss her forthcoming paper 'The Invisible Victims of Israel's Genocide/Ecocide on Gaza: Crimes Against Nature and Nonhuman Animals', which is an invited contribution to the De Gruyter Handbook of Conflict Resolution and Peace. Listeners interested in reading the paper are invited to email Rimona for a copy. This will also allow them to check the sources for the facts and figures that Rimona mentions during the interview. The cover image is by Rimona, and features a homeless kitten in Rafah, Gaza. In response to the quick questions, Rimona mentioned: The work of Richard Falk (https://doi.org/10.1177/096701067300400105) and Polly Higgins (https://shepheardwalwyn.com/product/eradicating-ecocide-second-edition/) on ecocide. The work of Richard Ryder (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_D._Ryder), Steve Sapontzis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_F._Sapontzis), Steven Wise (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Wise), and Piers Beirne (https://usm.maine.edu/directories/people/piers-beirne/) on animals. Her own work on ecocide (https://link.springer.com/rwe/10.1007/978-981-15-3877-3_33-1) and theriocide (https://vernonpress.com/book/1852). You can find Rimona/Rimona's work on LinkedIn (https://linkedin.com/in/rimonaafana/), ORCID (https://orcid.org/0009-0007-0871-3530), X (https://x.com/rimona_afana), and BSky (https://bsky.app/profile/rimona-afana.bsky.social). You can follow her Ecocide/Speciesism project on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/ecocide.speciesism. Knowing Animals is proudly sponsored by the Animal Politics book series, from Sydney University Press. For more information about the series, see https://sydneyuniversitypress.com/collections/series-animal-politics.

This episode's guest is Dr Stanislav Roudavski, who is a designer and academic. He leads Deep Design Lab, a research and creative collective that focuses on design for and with nonhuman beings. He is also a Senior Lecturer in Digital Architectural Design at the University of Melbourne. His research develops theories and practices that engage with nonhumans, including animals, plants, and ecosystems, but also artificial agents such as AI. In this episode, he talks about his recent article 'From Dingoes to AI: Who Makes Decisions in More-than-Human Worlds?', which was published in the open access journal TRACE ∴ Journal for Human-Animal Studies in 2025 and was co-authored with Douglas Brock. In his answers to the regular questions, Stanislav mentions the following works: "Kholstomer", a short story by Leo Tolstoy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kholstomer) Vladimir Vernadsky's 1926 book The Biosphere (1998 English translation: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-1-4612-1750-3) Peter Kropotkin's 1902 collection Mutual Aid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_Aid:_A_Factor_of_Evolution) His own 2016 presentation 'Building Like Animals: Using Autonomous Robots to Search, Evaluate and Build' (https://isea-archives.siggraph.org/presentation/building-like-animals-using-autonomous-robots-to-search-evaluate-and-build/) John Odling-Smee's open access 2024 book Niche Construction (https://direct.mit.edu/books/oa-monograph/5822/Niche-ConstructionHow-Life-Contributes-to-Its-Own) His own Google Scholar profile: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=4J_lRh4AAAAJ&hl=en His own Academia.edu profile: https://unimelb.academia.edu/StanislavRoudavski And the Deep Design Lab wiki: https://wiki.deepdesignlab.online/.

Today's guest is Dr Juliette Waterman. Juliette is a zooarchaeologist with a particular interest in the archaeology of wild animals in Britain, and especially in birds. She is currently a postdoctoral researcher in the Department of Geography and Environmental Science at the University of Reading in the UK, where she co-coordinates the International Council for Archaeozoology Stable Isotope Working Group. Today, we're going to talk about her paper 'Human-raptor relationships in urban spaces: the history of red kites (Milvus milvus) and human food in Britian'. This paper was published in The Hand That Feeds: The Complex Relations of Human-Animal Feeding from UCL Press in 2025. Juliette co-edited the volume with Alexander Mullan, Riley Smallman, and Herre de Bondt. The volume is open access, so you can freely and legally download the book wherever you are in the world, from 13 May. Knowing Animals is proudly sponsored by the Animal Politics book series from Sydney University Press.

This week's guest is Dr Charlotte Wrigley, who is a postdoctoral researcher at the Greenhouse Centre for Environmental Humanities at the University of Stavanger in Norway. She has a mixed academic background, but her PhD (at Queen Mary University in London) was in human geography. Her research expertise concerns the arctic, extinction, and climate change. We talk about mammoths, and especially Charlotte's beautifully named book Earth, Ice, Bone, Blood: Permafrost and Extinction in the Russian Arctic, which was released in 2023 by University of Minnesota Press. This episode is brought to you by the Animal Politics book series, from Sydney University Press.

This episode features a returning guest: someone who first appeared on Knowing Animals nearly nine years ago, in February 2016. Dr Richard Twine is a Reader in Sociology at Edge Hill University in the UK. He'll be well-known to lots of regular listeners of this podcast for the work he's done championing the discipline of critical animal studies. His books include 2010's Animals as Biotechnology, which I've seen described as the first book entirely devoted to critical animal studies, and the 2014 collection The Rise of Critical Animal Studies, co-edited with Nik Taylor. On this episode, however, we talk about his 2024 Sydney University Press book The Climate Crisis and Other Animals, published as part of the Animal Politics book series. We're particularly pleased to feature this book as the Animal Politics series at Sydney University Press is a sponsor of this podcast.

This episode features Professor Jonathan Birch of the Department of Philosophy, Logic, and Scientific Method at the London School of Economics and Political Science. Jonathan is a philosopher of science who will be best known to an animal studies audience for his work on the science of sentience. This includes his 2021 report Review of the Evidence of Sentience in Cephalopod Molluscs and Decapod Crustaceans, which led to cephalopods and decapods being recognized as sentient beings in UK law. He was also one of the lead signatories of the New York Declaration on Animal Consciousness. In this episode, we talk about his 2024 Oxford University Press book The Edge of Sentience: Risk and Precaution in Humans, Other Animals, and AI. This is an open access book, meaning that all listeners can read and download it for free entirely legally. This episode is brought to you by the Animal Politics book series, from Sydney University Press. This is a collection of scholarly books about animal studies. As well as recently changing names, the series also has new editors: Danielle Celermajer, Rick De Vos, Chloë Taylor, and Katie Woolaston. If you're currently working on a book about animal studies, you should consider reaching out to them to see if the series would be a good fit – and we'll get a chance to ask some of these new editors about the Animal Politics series in upcoming episodes of Knowing Animals.

Dr Steve Cooke is an Associate Professor of Political Theory in the School of History, Politics, and International Relations at the University of Leicester. His work addresses animal rights, and how we (individually and collectively) should act given that our political communities are not friendly to animals. On this episode, we talk about Steve's new book What Are Animal Rights For?, which was published in 2023 by Bristol University Press.

Dr Angie Pepper in a Lecturer in Philosophy at the University of Roehampton in the UK. She works in moral and political philosophy, and has published papers on, among other topics, animals' right to privacy, animals' political agency, and what we owe to animals in light of climate change. In this episode, we discuss the collection The Ethics of Animal Shelters, which Angie co-edited with Valery Giroux and Kristin Voigt, including both the guidelines and recommendations in Part I of the book, and Angie's chapter 'Caring in Non-Ideal Conditions: Animal Rescue Organizations and Morally Justified Killing' in part II of the book. The Ethics of Animal Shelters was published in 2023 by Oxford University Press.