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#37 The Anti-Catastrophe League
Dec 16, 2025
44m 50s
#36 How crypto is sparking a longevity frenzy
Dec 2, 2025
1h 48m 15s
#35 The Anti-Aging Uprising: Felix Werth’s Political Attack on Death Itself
Nov 11, 2025
1h 24m 36s
#34 Biomarkers of aging: How close are we, really? - A conversation with Sara Hägg
Oct 28, 2025
1h 36m 22s
#33 “Can death be the answer?" A conversation with philosopher Nicholas Agar
Oct 7, 2025
1h 44m 30s
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| Date | Episode | Topics | Guests | Brands | Places | Keywords | Sponsor | Length | |
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| 12/16/25 | #37 The Anti-Catastrophe League✨ | existential risksaging+5 | Tom Ough | UnHerdThe Telegraph+2 | — | humanity extinctioncatastrophic risk+6 | — | 44m 50s | |
| 12/2/25 | #36 How crypto is sparking a longevity frenzy✨ | cryptolongevity+4 | Benji Leibowitz | pump.scienceSwedish Longevity Cluster+1 | — | cryptolongevity+6 | — | 1h 48m 15s | |
| 11/11/25 |  #35 The Anti-Aging Uprising: Felix Werth’s Political Attack on Death Itself✨ | anti-agingpolitical movement+3 | Felix Werth | German Party for Rejuvenation ResearchParty for Health Research | GermanyEurope | anti-aginglongevity+3 | — | 1h 24m 36s | |
| 10/28/25 | #34 Biomarkers of aging: How close are we, really? - A conversation with Sara Hägg✨ | biomarkers of agingbiological age clocks+5 | Sara Hägg | Karolinska Institutet | — | biological age clocksepigenetic clocks+5 | — | 1h 36m 22s | |
| 10/7/25 |  #33 “Can death be the answer?" A conversation with philosopher Nicholas Agar✨ | radical longevityethics+4 | Nicholas Agar | University of WaikatoUniversity of Auckland+4 | — | longevitytechnology+5 | — | 1h 44m 30s | |
| 9/23/25 |  #32 “Medical malpractice”: Matt Kaeberlein on biological age tests✨ | gerosciencelongevity+4 | Matt Kaeberlein | WormBottherapeutic plasma exchange (TPE)+4 | — | gerosciencelongevity+4 | — | 1h 50m 07s | |
| 9/9/25 |  # 31 He wants to save your pet with cryo - The Kai Micah Mills interview✨ | cryopreservationradical life extension+4 | Kai Micah Mills | CryopetsCryoDAO+2 | — | cryonicspets+5 | — | 2h 08m 54s | |
| 8/26/25 |  #30 Soon you'll take a drug designed by AI | Alex Zhavoronkov✨ | AI in medicinedrug development+4 | Alex Zhavoronkov | rentosertibPharma.AI toolkit+9 | Basel | AI-designed medicinesclinical trials+6 | — | 2h 13m 52s | |
| 7/29/25 |  #29 The Mindset behind longevity & strength at 75 - Natasha Vita-More✨ | longevitytranshumanism+4 | Natasha Vita-More | Humanity+Transhuman Manifesto | Scottsdale Arizona | cryonicsstoic extropianism+6 | — | 1h 55m 48s | |
| 7/15/25 |  #28 These rats don't age - here's why | Prof. Rochelle Buffenstein✨ | longevitynaked mole-rat+4 | Prof. Rochelle Buffenstein | University of Illinois Chicago | — | naked mole-ratlongevity+5 | Vitalism30% discount | 1h 43m 04s | |
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| 7/6/25 |  Can this 5-day diet rewind your biological age? - A conversation with Andrea Ghirardi | 🎁 Our giveaway is live!10 winners will receive FMD kits from Prolon. It’s free to enter – just follow the link below 👇https://gleam.io/NaVa0/prolon-fasting-mimicking-diet-giveaway🔬 Can food rejuvenate you from within?In this special episode of LEVITY, Peter talks with Andrea Ghirardi, CEO of L-Nutra Europe — the company behind Prolon, the fasting-mimicking diet (FMD) developed from Dr. Valter Longo’s research.🧠 We cover:– How Prolon mimics fasting without starvation.– Real-world results: 2.5 years bio-age reversal.– Why FMD may beat GLP-1 drugs for long-term health.– What’s inside the new NextGen kit.– Prolon’s potential as a medical treatment.📘 Dive deeper with our companion article:https://reachlevity.com/p/the-fasting-mimicking-diet-explained-5ce17b65d00c14c1💌 Our newsletter: Weekly biotech + aging breakthroughs:https://reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author.Note: Nothing in this post or episode is medical advice. We're not doctors. Before trying this, you should consult your physician. Prolon is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any diseases.CHAPTERS00:00 Teaser00:41 A message from Peter02:35 Introduction to L-Nutra and Andrea Ghirardi, CEO05:02 What is the fasting-mimicking diet?07:23 The clinically validated formulation08:32 The formation of L-Nutra13:22 How does FMD compare to other fasting methods?18:07 Are weight-loss drugs a tough competitor to Prolon?20:05 What's inside the 5-day Prolon kit?22:54 The next-gen formula25:41 Peter's and Andrea's experience of trying the FMD28:23 FMD studies35:15 The future of FMD and L-Nutra🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 7/1/25 |  #27 The mind-blowing science to bring you back from death - neuroscientist Ariel Zeleznikow‑Johnston | When is someone really dead? What does it mean to survive? Is mind-uploading really a possible future way of surviving? These are some of the questions we are discussing with Dr Ariel Zeleznikow-Johnston.Dr Ariel Zeleznikow‑Johnston is a neuroscientist and Research Fellow at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia, whose work delves into the neural basis of consciousness - from understanding how genetics and environment shape cognition to exploring the subtle qualities of perceptual experience such as color qualia. A 2019 PhD graduate from The University of Melbourne, he has published extensively on how cognitive function changes across the lifespan. He is the author of The Future Loves You: How and Why We Should Abolish Death, which advocates for brain preservation technology as a means to suspend death and revive individuals in the future.Check out Peter's review of the book here: https://reachlevity.com/p/a-clear-case-for-cryonics-a-review-of-the-future-loves-youHis multidisciplinary approach combines rigorous neuroscience with philosophy and ethics, positioning him at the forefront of contemporary debates about identity, mortality, and the future of human life.🔍 In this conversation:✅ When do we consider someone to be dead?✅ What is vitrifixation?✅ Cryonics.✅ Palliative philosophy.✅ Personal identity and the connectome.✅ Are neurons the same over time?✅ Teleportation as a test of the information view of personhood.✅ How do we make the future love us?✅ Survival and medical priorities.🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com🚀 LEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author.CHAPTER00:00 Intro03:45 Jonathan is 190-years-old07:00 Learned helplessness10:00 Incoherent medical strategies11:30 Aging is unhealthy14:22 Palliative philosophy20:44 The book in brief - how to cheat death23:30 Different ways of biostasis - vitrifixation35:01 Digital snap-shot emulation of our essense37:59 What is a person? Connectome preservation43:30 Do neurons stay the same over a life?47:00 Is mind-uploading preserving personal identity?01:03:52 We are not our brain - is the connectome model a dualist view?01:07:50 Teleportation and survival I01:14:19 Duplicate myself to increase utility01:15:31 Teleportation and survival II01:24:30 "Dead people" may not be dead01:33:30 Saving lives by biostasis brainpreservation01:36:04 Priority of medicine01:38:05 Saving everyone that can be saved01:40:07 Justice and survival - an unusual angle01:43:36 What kind of world will we wake up to?01:44:48 How to make the future love us01:44:59 What are the odds of today's cryonics working?01:49:10 What year is resurrection?01:56:33 Ariel's book recommendations🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 6/17/25 |  #26 Inside Shift Bioscience’s single-gene rejuvenation breakthrough — Exclusive with CEO Daniel Ives | Just about the hottest thing in longevity science right now is partial reprogramming - using Yamanaka factors to rewind the biological clock in our cells. Billion-dollar giants like Altos, Retro and New Limit are betting on it.But in this episode a far smaller player, Shift Bioscience, argues that the field may be looking in the wrong place. CEO Daniel Ives explains how his team used AI-powered virtual cells to uncover a single gene that seems to match OSK-level rejuvenation without the tumor risk that haunts classical reprogramming - and why their just-released data could change the game for aging research.🔍 In this conversation✅ Daniel’s journey from mitochondrial PhD work to founding Shift Bioscience.✅ Why Yamanaka-factor–based partial reprogramming excites the field and why it’s inherently risky.✅ Epigenetic clocks 101 — Horvath, single-cell versions, and what they really measure.✅ Building AI “virtual cells” (transformers / GNNs) to run millions of in-silico experiments.✅ Discovery of new rejuvenation factor sets - including SB000, a lone gene that rejuvenates without inducing pluripotency.✅ Early wet-lab validation across fibroblasts & keratinocytes; next-step mouse studies already under way.✅ How inhibition targets (not just over-expression) could slash timelines from 15 years to ~5 years.✅ Mapping a “risk landscape” of age-linked diseases and why fibrosis may be the fastest clinical entry point.✅ Funding Shift: from personal redundancy money to a $16 M seed and the next raise.✅ Timelines, escape-velocity hopes, and where cryonics still fits.✅ What Daniel would ask Jeff Bezos, and why the pharma ecosystem needs to “plug in” now.🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com🚀 LEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction to Daniel Ives05:34 The Evolution of Shift's Focus13:25 Understanding Aging Clocks19:28 Commercial Clocks is ”Mostly Entertainment”21:03 A Pivotal Meeting with Steve Horvath24:35 A Brief Crash Course in Yamanaka Factors28:16 Finding Something Better Than Yamanaka Factors33:20 The Origin Story For This Approach36:50 What Does Shift’s New Results Show?37:33 Defining the Virtual Cell in This Context44:22 The Gene is Called SB00046:45 “This Could be Hugely Important”01:01:44 Speeding up Drug Development with AI01:11:12 What do Investors Say?01:17:15 What Daniel Hope Will Happen Next01:19:34 What Would Daniel Ask of Jeff Bezos?01:27:00 Why is the company called Shift?01:32:55 The Pride Day for Closeted Aging Biologists01:42:28 How Should We Think About Cryonics?🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 6/3/25 |  #25 What exactly is so bad about death? | We think that death is bad, but why exactly is it bad? We cannot suffer when we do not exist, so why would it be bad?In this episode we have a long, deep conversation with Professor Travis Timmerman, whose philosophical work delves deeply into the nature and ethics of death. An Associate Professor at Seton Hall University, Professor Timmerman has become a prominent voice in contemporary discussions about whether death is bad for us, how we should understand the harm of dying, and what moral obligations we might have surrounding death and dying. His work engages both timeless questions and urgent contemporary debates—offering fresh insight into topics like the timing of death’s harms, the ethics of procreation, and our attitudes toward mortality.What you'll learn in this episode:✅ Why death is bad✅ How it can bad to not have been born earlier✅ What the ancient Mirror Argument gets wrong✅ How it can be bad for a 95-year-old to die✅ Whether we should wait to have children✅ How an analytical philosopher thinks about death🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com--CHAPTERS--00:00 introduction00:50 Why is death bad? The Deprivation account15:30 Lucretius18:10 A reason to live is a reason to see death as bad20:20 James Stacey Taylor vs Travis Timmerman26:20 Deprivation account and mercy killing29:20 Counter intuitive implications of the Deprivation Account - overdetermination of death37:20 What would have happened if I had not died? Possible worlds and the badness of death40:40 The badness of a 95-year-old to die47:00 Thomas Nagel - death and normalcy51:49 Reasons and the good and the bad53:40 The Timmerman style of analytic philosophy01:00:49 Philosophers and prolongevity in history01:08:28 Philosophy as therapy01:09:40 Time and intrinsic good - what matters most?01:14:36 Is health overrated?01:16:27 The eternal philosophical dialogue01:17:56 If longevity were impossible, how would that change philosophy of death?01:21:35 The Mirror Argument01:26:55 Could I have been born earlier?01:39:22 When should we have children?01:42:47 Better never to have been?01:48:09 A world without consciousness01:52:27 Can we wish for the impossible?02:02:07 Meta-philosophy and ironing out the wrinkles of the Deprivation account02:03:00 What Travis is working on02:08:02 What what we should read🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 5/20/25 |  #24 Dr. Valter Longo - The BIG 2025 interview | There were two reasons why Dr. Valter Longo was featured so prominently in my longevity book Evigt Ung (2022).First, if you had to name a single scientific thread running through the history of longevity research, calorie restriction is hard to beat. And few have done more to modernize and translate that insight into real-world practice than Longo.Second, I hold Valter Longo in the highest regard. I've tried his Fasting-Mimicking Diet (FMD), I’ve followed his work on The Longevity Diet, and I find his scientific contributions both rigorous and unusually translational. He doesn’t just publish papers - he builds systems, tests interventions in clinical trials, and tries to implement science into healthcare.In this conversation, we cover the science, history, and application of fasting, nutrition, and longevity - including new work on cancer, metabolism, and organ regeneration. We also discuss the philosophical and political obstacles that stand in the way of real change.What you'll learn in this episode:✅ The story of Longo’s early music career - and why he left it to study aging.✅ How calorie restriction shaped modern longevity science.✅ Why Biosphere 2 and Roy Walford's work was both inspiring and cautionary.✅ The origins and mechanisms of the Fasting-Mimicking Diet.✅ What Longo learned about autophagy, stem cells, and organ regeneration.✅ Why protein intake before and after age 65 should be treated differently.✅ What the media and doctors get wrong about obesity, food, and metabolism.✅ The dangers of high-protein and ketogenic diets.✅ Why Longo is deeply skeptical of TRT, growth hormone, and biohacking shortcuts.✅ How fasting can enhance cancer treatment - and why Longo wrote his new book Fasting Cancer.✅ Why we need a new kind of “digital school” for lifestyle medicine.🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com--CHAPTERS--00:00 Introduction to Dr. Valter Longo02:44 From Music to Aging Biology06:40 The Supposed Longevity Zones of Italy09:04 Personal Experiences Shaping Research12:04 The Path to Aging Biology13:15 Calorie Restriction and Roy Walford26:25 Transitioning to Fasting Mimicking Diet Research34:56 The Eureka Moment39:51 The Rationale For the 5-Day FMD52:54 The Un-conspired Conspiracy01:01:18 Conflicts of Interest01:04:52 Protein Intake: Balancing Muscle Health and Longevity01:14:30 Autophagy: The Body's Self-Repair Mechanism01:21:12 The Power of Genetic Variants in Longevity01:27:18 The Debate on Growth Hormone and Aging01:36:18 Insights from Laron Syndrome and Longevity01:40:10 Fasting Mimicking Diet: A Path to Health01:46:06 Valter's New Book, Fasting Cancer🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 5/6/25 |  #23 Hilarious, brilliant and deadly serious: José Cordeiro's quest to defeat death | This is our first — and probably our last — episode where the guest has brought with him an actual punch card and proceeds to explain why it is, in fact, caca (which is Spanish for 💩, by the way).Welcome to the wild world of José Cordeiro. Stick around and you might hear anecdotes about Robert Kennedy Jr. in Memphis 🎸, late-night karaoke sessions 🎤, and a man shouting “immortality!” to anyone and everyone. But behind the eccentric props and the shameless self-promotion (José didn’t just bring punch cards — he also brought his books 📚, his merch 👔, and his signature Death of Death tie — to the point where we had to clarify we’re not actually sponsored), there’s a deadly serious mission: José wants to end aging and defeat death.A futurist, MIT-trained engineer, and bestselling author, José Cordeiro argues that humanity is on the brink of longevity escape velocity 🚀 — the moment when medical advances will start adding more years to our lives than time takes away. In this episode, we explore his bold predictions, from reversing aging by 2045 to launching a global “war on aging.” We cover the science 🔬, the politics 🏛️, the money 💰, and the wild optimism driving the longevity movement — with cryonics ❄️, Martians 👽, and €10 immortality claims all making appearances.This might be our strangest — and most fascinating — conversation yet. Buckle up.-- IN THIS EPISODE YOU'LL LEARN ABOUT --✅ Why longevity escape velocity may be closer than we think✅ How AI will aid longevity✅ Why technological optimism is rational✅ How the Covid pandemic was a relatively minor pandemic✅ How the concept of work will change✅ What the future of energy may be✅ A personal history of Marvin Minsky, Ray Kurzweil and José Cordeiro✅ Where to meet Cordeiro and demonstrate against aging✅ Why immortality is probable by 2045🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com-- CHAPTERS --00:00 Introduction05:33 Cordeiro's struggle to end aging12:28 Traveling the world to spread the word of The Death of Death18:36 The small Covid Pandemic vs the huge aging pandemic26:00 Scientific optimism29:37 "Next time we meet we will be younger."32:28 The concept of work through history35:50 Exponentiality of progress - a personal history of computers43:30 Kurzweil and Cordeiro mentored by Marvin Minsky50:26 The future of energy57:56 When will we reach LEV and what happens 2045?01:03:00 Madrid as a Blue Zone01:06:30 AI coming and helping with science01:17:00 The amazing point of the human timeline we are on - biology can be immortal01:19:50 We are mostly water - immortality for 10 Euros per year01:22:40 Advanced bio engineering and disruption from outside01:24:30 Zuckerberg to cure all diseases in this generation - billionaires to the rescue01:28:40 Elon Musk will change his mind01:29:34 Trump administration and visiting Elvis with RFK01:36:40 The importance of campaigning for life - we need action now01:47:22 Cryonics01:51:56 Sing karaoke 01:53:00 What to read🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 4/29/25 |  #22 Aging will be cured within 20 years — here's why | Prof. Derya Unutmaz | Lately, there's been growing pushback against the idea that AI will transform geroscience in the short term.When Nobel laureate Demis Hassabis told 60 Minutes that AI could help cure every disease within 5–10 years, many in the longevity and biotech communities scoffed. Leading aging biologists called it wishful thinking - or outright fantasy.They argue that we still lack crucial biological data to train AI models, and that experiments and clinical trials move too slowly to change the timeline.Our guest in this episode, Professor Derya Unutmaz, knows these objections well. But he’s firmly on Team Hassabis.In fact, Unutmaz goes even further. He says we won’t just cure diseases - we'll solve aging itself within the next 20 years.And best of all, he offers a surprisingly detailed, concrete explanation of how it will happen:building virtual cells, modeling entire biological systems *in silico*, and dramatically accelerating drug discovery — powered by next-generation AI reasoning engines.🧬 In this wide-ranging conversation, we also cover:✅ Why biological complexity is no longer an unsolvable barrier.✅ How digital twins could revolutionize diagnosis and treatment.✅ Why clinical trials as we know them may soon collapse.✅ The accelerating timeline toward longevity escape velocity.✅ How reasoning AIs (like GPT-4o, o1, DeepSeek) are changing scientific research.✅ Whether AI creativity challenges the idea that only biological minds can create.✅ Why AI will force a new culture of leisure, curiosity, and human flourishing.✅ The existential stress that will come as AI outperforms human expertise.✅ Why “Don’t die” is no longer a joke — it's real advice.🎙️ Hosted - as always - by Peter Ottsjö (tech journalist and author of Evigt Ung) and Dr. Patrick Linden (philosopher and author of The Case Against Death).🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com-- CHAPTERS --00:00 Introduction to Derya Unutmaz05:22 Derya’s work at Jackson Laboratory09:37 The impact of AI on research15:04 AI as a collaborative partner20:50 The nature of creativity in AI30:21 Predictions for the future of AI and humanity37:46 The future of AI in medicine44:35 The impact of AI on professional identity47:45 Education in the age of AI01:01:32 The ethics of AI development01:14:46 Longevity and AI's role in accelerating science01:20:55 Virtual cells and digital twins01:29:02 Can we do it in silico all the way?01:33:08 Derya and Patrick will both talk at Vitalist Bay🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 4/8/25 |  #21 A Physicist's Controversial Take on Why Age Reversal Will Never Work | Peter Fedichev | Peter Fedichev is a visionary scientist, biotech entrepreneur, and physicist at the forefront of longevity research. With a background in theoretical physics, he has seamlessly merged cutting-edge science with real-world applications, making groundbreaking contributions to the fields of aging, biotechnology, and artificial intelligence in healthcare. As the co-founder and CEO of Gero, a pioneering biotech company, Fedichev is revolutionizing our understanding of biological aging, using AI-driven approaches to uncover ways to extend human lifespan and combat age-related diseases. His work has been featured in leading scientific journals, and his insights are shaping the future of personalized medicine and longevity science. Driven by a relentless curiosity and a passion for pushing the boundaries of human potential, Fedichev is not just studying aging - he’s working to redefine it.🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode is available here: https://reachlevity.com/p/age-reversal-will-never-work-a-controversial-take-from-a-physicist-5935af91034fd123-- EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS --✅ The founding of Gero✅ The physics of aging✅ Why age reversal will not work✅ What SENS gets right✅ What SENS gets wrong✅ AI and the longevity industry🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 3/25/25 |  #20 Want a quick $2 million? Help this guy find a longevity city! | Laurence Ion | In this episode of LEVITY, we speak with Laurence Ion, a tech entrepreneur whose experience with a rare genetic disease led him to tackle one of humanity's greatest challenges: aging.Starting as a shy coder who 'couldn't talk to strangers,' Laurence has become a movement leader pioneering a bold new approach: creating specialized cities where extending human lifespan isn't just a goal - it's the future of humanity.-- EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS --✅ Laurence's personal journey with multiple hereditary exostoses and how it shaped his perspective on aging and mortality.✅ The founding and evolution of VitaDAO, a decentralized science organization funding longevity research.✅ How crypto-based communities are accelerating anti-aging research outside traditional funding models.✅ The concept of special jurisdictions for medical innovation where regulatory frameworks can move at "warp speed".✅ Viva City's vision to create physical communities and hubs focused on longevity.✅ The $2 million recursive finder's fee for anyone who helps secure a location for the first major Viva City jurisdiction.✅ How living in community environments like Zuzalu and Aevitas House naturally promotes healthier lifestyle choices.✅ The Frontier Tower project - a 16-story "vertical village" designed for longevity-minded living.✅ JellyfishDAO's mission to change cultural narratives around aging through film and media.✅ The relationship between AI advancement and longevity research.✅ How decentralized clinical trials could dramatically reduce the cost and time of bringing treatments to people.✅ Real-world examples of companies already offering experimental longevity treatments in special jurisdictions.🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 3/11/25 |  #19 What are the chances humanity will survive this century? | Anders Sandberg | We have another amazing guest for this episode: Anders Sandberg is a visionary philosopher, futurist, and transhumanist thinker whose work pushes the boundaries of human potential and the future of intelligence. As a senior research fellow at Oxford University’s Future of Humanity Institute until its closing in 2024 Sandberg explores everything from cognitive enhancement and artificial intelligence to existential risks and space colonization. With a background in computational neuroscience, he bridges science and philosophy to tackle some of the most profound questions of our time: How can we expand our cognitive capacities? What are the ethical implications of radical life extension? Could we one day transcend biological limitations entirely? Known for his sharp intellect, playful curiosity, and fearless speculation, Sandberg challenges conventional wisdom, inviting us to imagine—and shape—a future where humanity thrives beyond its current constraints.00:00 introduction04:18 exersise & David Sinclair06:10 Will we survive the century?18:18 Who can we trust? Knowledge and humility23:17 Nuclear armaggedon39:51 Technology as a double-edged sword44:30 Sandberg origin story56:54 Computational neuroscience01:00:30 Personal identity and neural simulation01:05:24 Personal identity and reasons to want to continue living01:09:39 The psychology of behind different philosophical intutions and judgments01:17:48 Is death bad for Anders Sandberg?01:25:00 Altruism and individual rights01:31:29 Elon Musk says we must die for progress01:35:10 Artificial Intelligence01:55:08 AI civilization01:02:07 Cryonics02:04:00 Book recommendations🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 2/25/25 |  #18 Aubrey de Grey | The Big 2025 Interview | In this in-depth conversation, Dr. Aubrey de Grey discusses his Robust Mouse Rejuvenation (RMR) studies at the LEV Foundation and why he believes we're close to achieving the crucial RMR milestone within just three years - a breakthrough that could transform aging research forever.You'll also hear about:His predictions for reaching Longevity Escape Velocity by the late 2030sWhat he would change about Bryan Johnson's longevity algorithmHow reaching RMR could trigger a global "war on aging"Why AI won't solve aging without proper experimental dataHow Demis Hassabis is the smartest person Aubrey's ever metHis involvement in designing the XPRIZE Healthspan competitionHis rebuttal to Mark Hamalainen's "replacement strategy" approachThe divide-and-conquer approach to aging and why it's superior🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: https://peterottsjo.beehiiv.com/-- CHAPTERS --00:00 Introduction and Welcome03:15 The Background to LEV Foundation and the Robust Mouse Rejuvenation Studies12:05 The Robust Mouse Rejuvenation Studies18:10 Latest Results from the Mouse Rejuvenation Experiments25:42 Reaching RMR soon and LEV in 12-15 years33:47 Healthspanners in public - lifespanners in private?37:03 The Replacement Strategy Debate with Mark Hamalainen45:40 The Very, Very Difficult Challenge of Gradually Replacing the Brain54:46 Advanced bioengineering57:34 The Debate with Peter Fedichev01:11:57 Understanding Aging from an Evolutionary Perspective01:17:05 Artificial Intelligence and Longevity Research01:26:42 Is believing in AI hopium?1:28:27 Aubrey’s Involvement in the XPRIZE Healthspan Competition1:38:56 Special Economic Zones and Regulatory Challenges1:47:27 What Aubrey would do with Bryan Johnson’s algorithm1:50:49 What Excites Aubrey Most About the Future1:51:57 Book Recommendations and Closing Thoughts🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 2/11/25 |  #17 How the $101M XPRIZE will reverse aging by 20 years | Jamie Justice | Jamie Justice takes us inside the $101M XPRIZE Healthspan competition - one of the world's largest efforts to develop therapeutics that could reverse aging.As Executive Vice President of XPRIZE Healthspan, Jamie reveals how teams must demonstrate they can restore muscle, cognitive, and immune function in older adults within just one year. The stakes? $81M for achieving a 20-year reversal of aging markers, with $71M and $61M prizes for lesser but still remarkable achievements.Jamie shares her fascinating journey from studying crickets' lifespans in elementary school to leading groundbreaking aging research, including work on the TAME trial with metformin. She explains why they chose these specific biological systems to measure, how they'll determine success, and what kinds of interventions teams are exploring - from repurposed drugs to gene therapies.We discuss:* Why Peter Diamandis pushed for more ambitious goals* How over 550 teams from 55 countries are approaching the challenge EDIT: Since we recorded this in late 2024 they've now reached over 600 teams.* The role of biomarkers in measuring aging* Why they chose to measure actual restoration rather than just preventing decline* The challenges and opportunities in aging clinical trials* Her vision for an integrated, multi-generational society that values aging populations🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: https://peterottsjo.beehiiv.com/CHAPTERS:00:00 Introduction03:00 background21:30 XPRIZE sculpted by experience25:20 Collaborating with the entrant teams29:00 Why muscle, mind and immune functions as targets36:30 What if no one wins in 7-years?41:05 Investors attracted45:01 Does this give us increased longevity?51:05 What kind of approaches have been entered?01:00:30 AI01:09:20 Composit end-points01:13:10 TAME trial stuck because ...01:19:10 Biomarkers of aging01:26:50 AI and Biomarkers01:29:02 The longbio track (be lucky)01:36:20 Optimism about what?01:41:00 3 book you have to read🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 1/28/25 |  #16 Critical health signals your doctor is overlooking | David Luu | A pediatric cardiac surgeon turned longevity pioneer, Dr. David Luu shares his journey from humanitarian medical missions to building a global network of physicians focused on prevention. Learn about critical health markers your doctor might be missing, how AI is transforming healthcare, the truth about longevity interventions, and why the future belongs to prevention rather than treatment. Plus, discover the vital link between community, lifestyle, and longevity, and why creating modern "blue zones" might be key to living longer, healthier lives.🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: https://peterottsjo.beehiiv.com/CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction 02:33 A Family Legacy in Medicine 10:41 From Heart Surgeon to Tech Innovator with JuiSci and Hearty 13:47 Building AI-Powered Medical Platforms 21:33 The Heart Fund: Surgery for Those in Need 35:06 The Role of AI in Healthcare 45:22 Creating Longevity Docs Community 01:07:13 Hidden Cardiovascular Risk Factors 01:10:38 The Lp(a) Test Everyone Should Know About01:18:50 Why Call it ”Longevity Docs” When We Have No Approved Aging Interventions? 01:28:14 Different Levels of Longevity Interventions 01:38:42 Risk vs. Reward in Preventive Medicine 01:43:30 Building Modern Blue Zones 01:47:11 The Future of Medicine 01:52:07 Connecting with David🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 1/14/25 |  #15 Fifty years of fighting death | James Strole | 🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: https://peterottsjo.beehiiv.com/Meet one of the true legends of the longevity space, James Strole, the visionary founder of RAADfest who embodies relentless optimism and dedication to advancing the frontiers of longevity and human potential. His passion for creating a world where individuals can live longer, healthier lives shines through in every aspect of RAADfest, inspiring countless people to embrace the possibilities of radical life extension.We will learn about RAADfest and the history of the longevity movement. We will also explore Strole's philosophy of immortality.- CHAPTERS --00:00 introduction to James Strole04:20 RAADfest is the largest longevity event in the world11:50 personal awakening and the early days of the longevity movement22:00 longevity as a counter-culture23:00 death-program vs superlongevity26:30 1960s spreading the word and rebirthing31.00 people unlimited and science of superlongevity33:00 a holistic approach science of mind-set34:00 alternative medicine not always taken seriously37:40 the immortality mindset38:50 aged by culture44:20 optimism vs pessimism46:10 optimism about longevity science?58:50 death-program runs deep01:03:30 Ray Kurzweil's optimistic prognosis01:11:00 social consequences of longevity01:12:30 cryonics is an ambulance to the future01:15:05 imaginary mortality01:18:18 immortality via children01:19:19 is superlongevity egoistic?01:23:10 handle the loss of near and dear as an immortalist01:37:50 advice on health and where to be in contact with People Unlimited and James Strole🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
| 12/10/24 |  #14 The hidden link between baby gut health and chronic disease | Nora Cavani | 🚀 Special offer for our LEVITY audience: Join Vitalism today and receive a 30% discount on your membership using the code LEVITY at checkout. https://www.vitalism.io/membership🚀 Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: https://peterottsjo.beehiiv.com/-- IN THIS EPISODE --Nora Cavani, CEO of Alba Health, shares her journey from struggling with severe eczema and allergies to pioneering breakthrough solutions in children's gut health. After reversing her own chronic conditions through lifestyle changes, she learned how the first years of life critically shape our immune system, metabolism, and lifelong health through the gut microbiome.As the first company to collaborate with leading microbiome research institutions, Alba Health uses cutting-edge metagenomics technology to analyze children's gut bacteria and provide personalized recommendations. Cavani explains why modern factors like C-sections, antibiotics, and processed foods are leading to a concerning loss of essential gut bacteria in Western children - with many babies now lacking microbes crucial for immune development.Learn how the gut microbiome affects everything from common childhood ailments to chronic disease risk, why diversity in diet matters, and practical steps parents can take during the critical early window of their child's development. A vital conversation for parents, health optimizers, and anyone interested in preventing chronic disease through early intervention.-- CHAPTERS --00:00 Introduction to Nora Cavani05:08 Microbiome and child health07:16 Nora’s journey from Italy to Sweden10:43 Meeting the scientist and microbiologist Willem de Vos15:20 Laying the groundwork for Alba Health18:45 Gut microbiome is linked to afflictions in newborns19:29 The ecosystem of the gut microbiome21:00 The Ecosystem of the Gut Microbiome28:33 Gut-brain axis30:50 C-section and antibiotics35:10 Alba's testing methodology and insights41:38 Predicting health through microbiome analysis45:23 The best time to take the test54:20 Has Nora managed to get rid of her health issues?57:19 The role of diet diversity in gut health01:07:52 What can we still discover about the microbiome?01:10:05 The role of exercise, sleep and stress in adults01:12:40 Child health and longevity01:16:40 Nora’s personal longevity regimen and testing01:23:36 Oura’s investment i Alba Health01:28:18 Future of microbiome research01:32:28 Scientific consensus and controversy01:43:37 The future for Alba Health01:45:52 How to get in touch with Nora and Alba🗞️ SUBSCRIBE to the LEVITY newsletter: reachlevity.com/subscribeGet all LEVITY DeSci content here: reachlevity.com/t/desci (sorry about the wrong link in the episode)📕 Check out Patrick's book: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262543163/the-case-against-death/📗 Check out Peter's book (only available in Swedish): https://www.adlibris.com/sv/bok/evigt-ung-min-och-manniskans-drom-om-ododligheten-9789179652524-----Show notes for this episode will be available soon after this airs. Sign up for the LEVITY newsletter to get them straight to your inbox: reachlevity.com/subscribeLEVITY is co-hosted by Patrick Linden, philosopher and author, and Peter Ottsjö, journalist and author. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. | — | ||||||
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