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Nachi Gordon sits down with Ben Brafman, one of the most well known criminal defense attorneys in the country and a proud frum Jew. Ben opens up about sitting with clients at the worst moments of their lives, why he says he's "not the morality police," the Otisville visiting day he can never forget, and the hardest conversation of his career, with Super Bowl champion Plaxico Burress. They also get into the pressures and shortcuts that lead good people into serious crimes, the damage lashon hara does in our community, keeping Shabbos while representing Sean Combs, and the Brafman family legacy, from the Torah his father saved on Kristallnacht to the lives his brother, Rabbi Aron Brafman, changed at Yeshiva of Far Rockaway. This episode is sponsored by: ► PZ Deals Never pay full price again when you download the PZ Deals app. https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp _________________ ► Colel Chabad Pushka App The easiest way to give Tzedaka. https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful _________________ ► Touro Serious about your education and your Torah learning? Touro's Lander College for Men/Beis Medrash L'Talmud offers over 20 majors and pre-professional tracks, including finance, computer science, accounting, biology, psychology, pre-law, pre-dental and pre-med, plus honors pathways into New York Medical College and Touro College of Dental Medicine. Join the Open House on November 8. https://lcm.touro.edu/openhouse _________________ ► Ceremian Financial Advice built on experience. Moshe Alpert and Ceremian Financial are fiduciary financial advisors offering wealth management, financial planning, retirement planning, and estate and legacy planning for families, professionals and business owners, so you can have real peace of mind that your finances are taken care of. Schedule your first conversation today. https://ceremianfinancial.com/ [email protected] 718-644-1594 _________________ ► Town Appliance Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp. https://www.townappliance.com https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp Timestamps: 0:00 Intro: "I'm Not the Morality Police" 3:29 Ben Brafman on Talking Clients Out of Suicide and an Affinity Fraud in Shul 6:25 No Mussar and No Shortcuts: The Hard Work Behind the Job 8:31 His Father, Kristallnacht, and the Torah Saved From a Burning Shul 9:39 Law School, Stand-Up Comedy, and Humor in the Courtroom 11:46 What Gets Frum Business People in Trouble 13:26 Otisville Visiting Day: "Tatti, Kum Aheim" 16:28 COVID Loans, False Applications, and Federal Sentencing 20:34 Mesira, Cooperating With the Government, and Pardons for Sale 24:34 The Chesed of the Jewish Community and Hospital Shabbos Rooms 28:26 Lashon Hara: "Be Like Ben" 31:26 Yiddishkeit vs. Career: Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, and a "Heart Surgery" 35:30 Making a Name: In the Zone and No Summers Off 37:58 The Hardest Conversation: Plaxico Burress 41:40 How Do You Defend Someone You Think Belongs in Jail? 43:26 Smicha Is Not a PhD: Kollel, Financial Pressure, and the Cheder in Ramat Eshkol 48:42 The Art of Cross-Examination and the Evidence You Can't Cross-Examine 54:22 No Shortcuts to Success, and Lawyers Burned by AI 56:03 Not Picking Up on Shabbos for Sean Combs 1:01:18 The Mafia Cops Case That Should Be a Movie 1:05:36 Best and Worst Advice, and Learning Daf Yomi 1:09:26 Ben and His Brother, Rabbi Aron Brafman 1:15:50 Sullivan & Cromwell and Frum Lawyers in Big Law 1:18:08 Closing and Meaningful Minute Plus

This is not a typical episode. Nachi Gordon sits down in Yerushalayim with Arnold Roth, whose 15 year old daughter Malki was murdered in the Sbarro pizzeria bombing on August 9, 2001. Arnold shares who Malki was, the last "I love you" she exchanged with her mother, and the twelve hours the family spent searching for her before the 2 a.m. phone call from her brothers. But the story doesn't end there. Ahlam Tamimi, the woman who planned the attack, was sentenced to 16 life terms, freed in the 2011 Gilad Shalit deal, and has been living openly in Jordan ever since, where she even hosted her own TV show. She is the only woman on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list, with a $5 million reward on her head, and Jordan still refuses to hand her over. Arnold explains why he calls the silence of governments and American Jewish leadership a betrayal, and what each of us can do about it. Sign the petition to extradite Ahlam Tamimi: https://www.change.org/p/we-urge-the-president-and-secretary-of-state-of-the-united-states-to-do-everything-necessary-so-that-jordan-which-has-thwarted-this-process-for-years-finally-complies-with-its-treaty-obligation-and-with-fundamental-notions-of-justice Learn more about the Malki Foundation: https://www.kerenmalki.org This episode is sponsored by: ► PZ Deals Never pay full price again when you download the PZ Deals app. https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp _________________ ► Colel Chabad Pushka App The easiest way to give Tzedaka. https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful _________________ ► Touro Serious about your education and your Torah learning? Touro's Lander College for Men/Beis Medrash L'Talmud offers over 20 majors and pre-professional tracks, including finance, computer science, accounting, biology, psychology, pre-law, pre-dental and pre-med, plus honors pathways into New York Medical College and Touro College of Dental Medicine. Join the Open House on November 8. https://lcm.touro.edu/openhouse _________________ ► Ness Vacation Homes Eden Gardens' largest luxury home collection. Handpicked, high end homes available exclusively through Ness. https://nessvacationhomes.com/ _________________ ► Daily 613 Daily 613 is writing Sifrei Torah in memory of the victims of October 7th. Every letter is a letter of remembrance, and the more that is raised, the more Sifrei Torah will be written. Be part of the next one. https://causematch.com/daily613 _________________ ► Nishmasi A new project from Rabbi Efrem Goldberg to strengthen your emunah. Eight WhatsApp communities, including shidduchim, fertility, finance, illness and more, with daily messages from Rabbi Goldberg tailored to your chapter in life. Find your community and join today. https://nishmasi.org _________________ ► Rothenberg Law Firm Personal Injury Law Firm for 50+ years! Reach out today for a free case evaluation. https://shorturl.at/JFKHH _________________ ► Town Appliance Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp. https://www.townappliance.com https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp Timestamps: 0:00 Intro: Not a Typical Episode 3:53 Arnold Roth on Who Malki Was and Her Last Summer 9:05 August 9, 2001: The Sbarro Bombing 11:19 Twelve Hours Searching for Malki 16:26 The Shiva and Silence From the Israeli Government 19:48 A Zionist Let Down: Ahlam Tamimi Walks Free in Jordan 24:16 How Tamimi Planned and Carried Out the Attack 29:49 The Arrest, 16 Life Sentences, and a Secret Court Transcript 32:31 No Real Interest From the US as Tamimi Becomes a Prison Celebrity 36:12 The Shalit Deal: Tamimi at the Top of Hamas's List 39:22 Tamimi's TV Show in Jordan and Arnold Roth's Trip to Washington 43:35 2017: The US Charges Tamimi and Posts a $5 Million Reward 46:33 Jordan Declares Its Extradition Treaty Invalid 49:11 "A Foremost Priority": The Biden Administration Letter That Went Nowhere 51:58 If the US Really Wanted Tamimi, They Would Get Her 53:26 Billions for Jordan and the Silence of American Jewish Leaders 1:00:36 Everyone Knows Where Tamimi Lives, and the King of Jordan's VIP Treatment 1:03:06 "A Betrayal": What Arnold Roth Would Say to Tamimi 1:04:42 What Justice Would Change, and Losing Son-in-Law Naftali 1:09:58 The Malki Foundation and Nachi's Call to Sign the Petition

In this special throwback episode,Nachi Gordon sits down with Rivka Shotkin, a 16 year old from Passaic and the youngest guest in Meaningful People history. On January 31, 2021, a family ski trip in Tannersville ended when Rivka missed a turn on her last run of the day and went straight into a tree, breaking 11 bones, puncturing both lungs, and severing her spinal cord. She walks us through waking up in the ICU nine days later, three months of rehab during COVID without being able to see her family, and landing back in the hospital with septic shock just five days after finally coming home. What makes this one special is how Rivka talks about all of it. She opens up about how unhappy she was before the accident, the strange sense of peace she felt that weekend, why she now calls her injury a gift, and what she wants the community to understand about treating people in wheelchairs. It's funny, honest, and genuinely inspiring. This episode is sponsored by: ► PZ Deals Never pay full price again when you download the PZ Deals app. https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp _________________ ► Colel Chabad Pushka App The easiest way to give Tzedaka. https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful _________________ ► Shopify Guru Store looks great but not selling the way it should? Shopify Guru's Daniel gets under the hood and makes it actually work, no developer needed every time you want to make a change. Call 732-534-1404 or go to shopifyguru.io. https://go.jcn.io/sgmp _________________ ► Ness Vacation Homes Eden Gardens' largest luxury home collection. Handpicked, high end homes available exclusively through Ness. https://nessvacationhomes.com/ _________________ ► Rothenberg Law Firm Personal Injury Law Firm for 50+ years! Reach out today for a free case evaluation. https://shorturl.at/JFKHH _________________ ► Town Appliance Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp. https://www.townappliance.com https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp Timestamps: 0:00 Intro: Meet Rivka Shotkin, MPP's Youngest Guest Ever 4:02 Welcome to the Studio and Growing Up in Passaic 7:23 The Ski Trip to Tannersville That Changed Everything 10:10 Airlifted to Albany and Waking Up Nine Days Later 13:20 Learning Rivka Was Paralyzed and Eli Portell's Advice 15:49 Anger, Dark Humor, and Taking It in Stride 18:04 Three Months of Rehab During COVID 22:07 Punishment, Test, or Gift? 23:33 Coming Home, a Wedding Cake, and Septic Shock 27:29 How to Accept What You Never Signed Up For 29:45 Unhappy Before the Accident and a Strange Premonition 31:57 Choosing Happiness and Strength From Rivka's Parents 34:59 Brain Surgeon Dreams and How to Treat People in Wheelchairs 38:20 Emunah, Hashgacha, and Not Being Afraid of the Pain 42:36 Rivka's Second Rosh Hashanah 46:17 Camp Simcha and Rivka's Support System 49:06 Poetry, Dreams, and Determination

This week, Nachi Gordon sits down with Charlie Harari for a wide-ranging conversation about what it actually means to love someone, honor your parents, and do teshuva. Charlie unpacks how modern therapy culture has replaced the role of a rebbe for a lot of people, and argues that real love isn't validation, it's pointing someone toward Hashem even when that's uncomfortable to hear. From there the conversation moves through honoring parents even when the relationship is hard, why teshuva is really about identity rather than behavior, and why tragedy seems to shake people awake to Hashem faster than blessing does. Charlie also talks about Kelil, the app and upcoming book he co-wrote to help people work through jealousy, honoring parents, and other areas of avodas Hashem that are hard to figure out on your own. This episode is sponsored by: ► PZ Deals Never pay full price again when you download the PZ Deals app. https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp _________________ ► Colel Chabad Pushka App The easiest way to give Tzedaka. https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful _________________ ► Values Over Valuables A campaign encouraging people to live a value based life instead of buying whatever they can afford. Watch the video and take the pledge. https://valuesovervaluables.org _________________ ► Bench American-style food, treats, and gifts from vendors across Jerusalem, delivered straight to your kid in Israel. A taste of home when you can't be there yourself. https://benchjlm.com _________________ ► Ness Vacation Homes Eden Gardens' largest luxury home collection. Handpicked, high end homes available exclusively through Ness. https://nessvacationhomes.com/ _________________ ► Rothenberg Law Firm Personal Injury Law Firm for 50+ years! Reach out today for a free case evaluation. https://shorturl.at/JFKHH _________________ ► Town Appliance Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp. https://www.townappliance.com https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp

This week, Nachi Gordon sits down with Yudi and Chumi Herzberg to talk about the life, story, and legacy of their daughter Charlotte, who passed away in a car accident on June 2. Yudi and Chumi walk through what made Charlotte so uniquely herself, the note she left her mother the night before the accident, and how they found out and told the rest of their kids. They also talk candidly about the ups and downs since then, including recognizing the driver as a close family friend, and how they came to see the tragedy as coming entirely from Hashem rather than from any person to blame. The conversation turns toward Shalom for Charlotte, the movement Yudi and Chumi built out of the accident, aimed at inspiring people to make peace in their own relationships. They share some of the thousands of stories that have poured in since Charlotte passed, from decades long feuds ending to siblings reconnecting, and talk about what it has meant to watch their daughter's legacy grow into something so much bigger than themselves. This episode is sponsored by: ► PZ Deals Never pay full price again when you download the PZ Deals app. https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp _____________________ ► Colel Chabad Pushka App The easiest way to give Tzedaka. https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful _____________________ ► Aura House A sleek, flame free cold air diffuser that fills your home with a five star hotel scent, with no parabens or phthalates. A perfect wedding gift. Use code MEANINGFUL15 for 15% off. https://aurahouse.com _____________________ ► Values Over Valuables A campaign encouraging people to live a value based life instead of buying whatever they can afford. Watch the video and take the pledge. https://valuesovervaluables.org _____________________ ► Voice 37 by Isaac Honig An all natural vocal booster made with organic herbs that lasts 12 to 24 hours, made for singers and especially for chazzanim heading into the Yomim Noraim. Available on Amazon. https://clyor.com/voice37 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N26UG0V/ _____________________ ► Ness Vacation Homes Eden Gardens' largest luxury home collection. Handpicked, high end homes available exclusively through Ness. https://nessvacationhomes.com/ _____________________ ► Rothenberg Law Firm Personal Injury Law Firm for 50+ years! Reach out today for a free case evaluation. https://shorturl.at/JFKHH _____________________ ► Town Appliance Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp. https://www.townappliance.com https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 3:48 Charlotte's Personality and Big Feelings 8:55 The Note Charlotte Left the Night Before the Accident 15:49 Reliving June 2: How the Accident Unfolded 19:27 Yudi's Hope at the Scene and the Ride to the Hospital 23:19 Telling Their Other Children What Happened 25:27 Hatzalah, Neighbors, and the Community's Response 29:20 Recognizing the Driver as a Close Family Friend 33:18 Being on the Same Page as a Couple 35:09 Grief During and After Shiva 44:46 Seeing Hashem Clearly Through the Tragedy 47:46 Why They Chose the Name Shalom for Charlotte 52:18 Adjusting to Life After Shiva Ended 1:00:18 Turning Their Story Into Chizuk for Others 1:04:57 Rabbi Robino Eisenberger's Message on a Predestined Life 1:13:35 Stories of Shalom Pouring In From Around the World 1:20:29 The Goal of 100,000 Acts of Shalom 1:25:02 Visiting Charlotte's Grave 1:27:03 Preparing for a Simcha and Living Life Fully Today

Rabbi Benjamin Goldschmidt grew up in Moscow as the son of the city's chief rabbi, trained in Bnei Brak and Ponovezh, and spent a decade as assistant rabbi at Manhattan's Park East Synagogue — until he was abruptly and very publicly fired. In this raw conversation with Nachi Gordon, he opens up for the first time about that moment: the New York Post headline, the car crash he got into reading about himself, and the isolation of losing not just a job but an entire community. Out of that low point came Altneu, the congregation he and his wife built from nothing — starting with 40 people in their living room, then two and a half years of renting a different Manhattan venue every single week, never knowing until Thursday's email where Shabbos would be. Rabbi Goldschmidt walks through how that instability became the shul's strength, the breaking point that nearly ended the project, his father's advice that turned it around, and how it all led to buying a $35 million building on the Upper East Side. He also gets into what it's like leading a congregation through today's political climate in New York, and the loss of a beloved member that shook the whole community. This episode is sponsored by: ► PZ Deals Download the app and never pay full price again! https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp _________________ ► Colel Chabad Pushka App The easiest way to give Tzedaka https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful _________________ ► Shopify Guru Store looks great but not selling the way it should? Shopify Guru's Daniel gets under the hood and makes it actually work, no developer needed every time you want to make a change. Call 732-534-1404 or go to shopifyguru.io. https://go.jcn.io/sgmp _________________ ► Ness Vacation Homes EDEN GARDENS' LARGEST LUXURY HOME COLLECTION. Handpicked, high-end homes available exclusively through Ness. https://nessvacationhomes.com/ _________________ ► El Al From the Hebrew announcements to the Israeli atmosphere onboard, flying EL AL feels like Israel before you even land. With nonstop flights to Israel and Jewish comfort from takeoff to landing, there's nothing like hearing: ברוכים הבאים לישראל. Book your next flight with EL AL: https://www.elal.com/eng/usa?utm_source=meaningful&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=gcny_incoming_usa&cid=s:el%7Cm:what%7Ccp:gcny%7Cct:incoming%7Cau:usa _________________ ► Rothenberg Law Firm Personal Injury Law Firm For 50+ years! Reach out today for a free case evaluation. https://shorturl.at/JFKHH _________________ ► Town Appliance Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp. https://www.townappliance.com https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp _________________ Timestamps: 0:00 Intro: A Shul With No Address 2:57 Growing Up in Moscow as the Chief Rabbi's Son 8:47 Sent to Bnei Brak and Ponovezh at Twelve 11:40 Choosing the Rabbinate and the Lakewood "Freezer" Years 18:28 Becoming a Rabbi at Park East at Twenty-Four 23:52 A Decade as Assistant Rabbi at Park East 26:52 Getting Fired: The Sudden, Public Fallout 33:47 Losing a Job, Losing a Community 36:19 His Father's Parallel Story and the Birth of Altneu 44:20 Building a Shul on Wheels Across Manhattan 54:48 The Breaking Point and His Father's Advice 59:05 Buying a $35 Million Building on the Upper East Side 1:01:28 Building Altneu's Identity and Culture 1:10:01 From the Pulpit to Politics: Life in Manhattan Today 1:17:50 Confronting Antisemitism and What Makes a Movement Survive 1:22:00 Remembering Wesley 1:24:37 Closing

Mendel Krashunsky is the founder of the Frum Health Club, a worldwide movement pushing Yidden to finally take their health seriously. He opens up about losing his father, an oligarch who lived a life of total luxury, to a preventable illness at just 38 years old, and how the grief sent Mendel into his own spiral of emotional eating that left him 70 pounds overweight and battling GERD before he'd even turned 20. From there, Mendel and Nachi dig into why health gets treated as optional in frum life, even though it's a mitzvah straight from the Torah, covering ultra-processed food, GLP-1s like Ozempic, how to talk to kids about it, and the viral 10,000-steps-a-day challenge that's grown into a global movement with tens of thousands of followers. It's a raw, practical conversation about food, faith, and why taking care of your body isn't a contradiction to Yiddishkeit, it's part of it. Join the Frum Health Club 30-Day Step Challenge! 🚶‍♂️ Walk 10,000 steps a day (Shabbos and Yom Tov excluded.) 🏆 Chance to win a Rolex worth $8,000 OR 💵 $8,000 cash 💵 Daily chance to win $100 💰 Just $39 to join Sign up: https://wa.link/0w2nb2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/frumhealthclub This episode is sponsored by: ► PZ Deals Download the app and never pay full price again! https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp _________________ ► Colel Chabad Pushka App The easiest way to give Tzedaka https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful _________________ ► KTYT – Win $1,000,000 for Your Shul Take on a Kabbalah to stay quiet during a specific part of davening, and you're entered to win $1,000,000 for the shul, yeshiva, mikvah, or Torah project of your choice. Head to KTYT.org, make your Kabbalah, and pick which part of davening you're committing to. https://ktyt.org/en/mpPOD _________________ ► Shopify Guru Store looks great but not selling the way it should? Shopify Guru's Daniel gets under the hood and makes it actually work, no developer needed every time you want to make a change. Call 732-534-1404 or go to shopifyguru.io. https://go.jcn.io/sgmp _________________ ► Ness Vacation Homes EDEN GARDENS' LARGEST LUXURY HOME COLLECTION. Handpicked, high-end homes available exclusively through Ness. https://nessvacationhomes.com/ _________________ ► El Al From the Hebrew announcements to the Israeli atmosphere onboard, flying EL AL feels like Israel before you even land. With nonstop flights to Israel and Jewish comfort from takeoff to landing, there's nothing like hearing: ברוכים הבאים לישראל. Book your next flight with EL AL: https://www.elal.com/eng/usa?utm_source=meaningful&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=gcny_incoming_usa&cid=s:el%7Cm:what%7Ccp:gcny%7Cct:incoming%7Cau:usa _________________ ► Rothenberg Law Firm Personal Injury Law Firm For 50+ years! Reach out today for a free case evaluation. https://shorturl.at/JFKHH _________________ ► Town Appliance Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp. https://www.townappliance.com https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp

Moshe Tischler and Shloimy Zaltzman, two of the biggest names in Jewish wedding music, sit down with Nachi Gordon to trace how they broke into the industry, from meeting as yeshiva teenagers to Shlomi's near-miss record deal and the emotional moment years later when he watched another bandleader step into that same opportunity. They open up about what the job really costs, the travel away from their kids, showing up at full strength no matter how sick or drained they are, and the odd reality of being shy, private people who perform in the most public, high-stakes moments of other people's lives. They also dig into where Jewish music is headed, from the flood of new releases on platforms like 24Six to AI-generated singers (including a story about a bride who fell for a song by an artist who doesn't actually exist), and land on the same conclusion: raw, honest, unpolished authenticity beats anything overproduced. A warm, funny, surprisingly candid conversation between two friends who built parallel careers making other people's simchas unforgettable. Exclusive content on: www.mmplus.org This is episode is brought to you in part by: ► PZ Deals Download the app and never pay full price again! https://app.pz.deals/install/mpp _________________ ► Colel Chabad Pushka App The easiest way to give Tzedaka https://pushkapp.cc/meaningful _________________ ► ArtScroll ArtScroll is celebrating 50 years of making Torah learning accessible to everyone, and they're marking it with a massive giveaway: $10,000 every single week for the next few weeks, adding up to over $50,000 total. No purchase necessary, just head to the link, scroll down, and fill out the short form to be entered. While you're there, check out the rotating weekly sale, with so many ArtScroll items at 50% off. https://artscroll.com/50years _________________ ► Ness Vacation Homes EDEN GARDENS' LARGEST LUXURY HOME COLLECTION Handpicked, high-end homes available exclusively through Ness. https://nessvacationhomes.com/ _________________ ► El Al From the Hebrew announcements to the Israeli atmosphere onboard, flying EL AL feels like Israel before you even land. With nonstop flights to Israel and Jewish comfort from takeoff to landing, there's nothing like hearing: ברוכים הבאים לישראל. Book your next flight with EL AL: https://www.elal.com/eng/usa?utm_source=meaningful&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=gcny_incoming_usa&cid=s:el%7Cm:what%7Ccp:gcny%7Cct:incoming%7Cau:usa _________________ ► Rothenberg Law Firm Personal Injury Law Firm For 50+ years! Reach out Today for Free Case Evaluation https://shorturl.at/JFKHH _________________ ► Town Appliance Visit the website or message them on WhatsApp https://www.townappliance.com https://bit.ly/Townappliance_whatsapp